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Title: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 04:54:47 PM
Hello, Everyone!

My name is Gary and I'm new to this group; I've been a Weber kettle enthusiast since I was a teenager and the thrill of the coals hasn't left me yet at 41.   I've never owned a gas grill (I know there are Weber gas grill guys out there, not knocking ya!) and work with my Performer, One-Touch Gold, 18 inch portable and Smokey Joe for all of my grilling needs...too many according to my wife; I've assured her there is always a need for each.   

This past summer, I had a large gathering at my house and while I was grilling on my Performer, I wished that I had a true upper cooking area where I could grill, warm or  expand my indirect smoking surface...something much more versatile than the Weber 3200 rack that comes with the Master Touch series grills.    I happen to manufacture grill accessories ( as well as other items) for a living and I got to work making a prototype.   After some time, I'm happy to announce to all of you that I'm in full production of what I'm calling the Upper Deck rack; my primary sales platform is Amazon.  After visiting this site, I now realize my product is very similar the the old, 1970's Elevated Half Grill, but it IS  different, and to my knowledge, the EHG is not available on the market any longer. 

I'd like to know if any of you might be interested in getting a Upper Deck at no charge in return for an HONEST review on Amazon.  If you love it as much as I do, great! If you think improvements can be made, let me know; if you hate it, please tell me.   I can only handle 10 giveaways, so I will honor the first 10 folks who reach out to me at the email below. 

Guys, being new to this site and not seeing any posted rules, if I'm out of line with this posting, please accept my apologies in advance. I'm just looking for honest feedback from Weber nuts like me as I try to launch this product that I think we be loved by any 22 inch kettle owner.  If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.

Link to my product for your review: https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Warming-Charcoal-Grilling-Accessory/dp/B01IU7HJNU/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1474937486&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=upper+deck+grill+grate

Now go out there and light those coals!

Best,
Gary
gary@315products.com
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: WNC on September 26, 2016, 05:06:20 PM
Email sent @Gary@315
I'd be happy to try it out for you thanks!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on September 26, 2016, 05:15:31 PM
Hope I was fast enough.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: MrHoss on September 26, 2016, 05:32:48 PM
"feedback from Weber nuts" - you found the place baby.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 05:35:32 PM
Dude....you're number 4.  Shoot me an email to gary@315products.com and I'll send you the details.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 05:38:06 PM
Hoss...love it!  I feel right at home.  Do you want in?  If so, just shoot me an email and I'll send you the details.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on September 26, 2016, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 05:35:32 PM
Dude....you're number 4.  Shoot me an email to gary@315products.com and I'll send you the details.  Thanks!

@Gary@315 I got the confirmation. Thanks a million. Looking forward to the code tomorrow. Looking even more forward to trying it out.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: swamprb on September 26, 2016, 06:15:38 PM
That is something that I would enjoy using on my Drum Smokers as well as the kettles and 22" WSM's. If you are interested in appealing to those markets as well, I would be interested in helping.

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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: iCARRY on September 26, 2016, 06:18:39 PM
Email sent. Hope I am not too late.

Ryan


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on September 26, 2016, 06:18:40 PM
Thanks for the email Gary. Waiting for the code tomorrow. I'll put it to use this weekend. Pretty excited.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: jbenavidez2 on September 26, 2016, 06:19:48 PM
I'm in ! I'd love to document the a few pounds of meat to show versatility.

Joel


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on September 26, 2016, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: kettlebb on September 26, 2016, 06:18:40 PM
Thanks for the email Gary. Waiting for the code tomorrow. I'll put it to use this weekend. Pretty excited.


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Got lucky! Looking forward to getting mine as well. I won't be shy about giving plenty honest feedback. Maybe even some improvement suggestion if needed.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: JDann24 on September 26, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
I made it! I look forward to putting this product to use. Thanks Gary!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: iCARRY on September 26, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
I can't wait to get this. Should be perfect for me.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 06:53:36 PM
Guys....thank you all for your enthusiastic responses to my product! I've reached my 10 unit review max and I look forward to hearing back from all of you!

ENJOY!!!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Dtrouty on September 26, 2016, 07:23:25 PM
Hi Gary, looks like a great item. Quick question, are these bad boys made in the USA or overseas at the moment?
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: demosthenes9 on September 26, 2016, 07:55:34 PM
Well damn, looks like I'm late to the party  :-(  Nice looking product though. 
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on September 27, 2016, 12:56:19 AM
I see you are making it out of stainless and it's priced at $34.99.  I know a lot of us would like real stainless flip up grates for less than the $75 that Weber charges.  Is that something you would consider producing?
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Geezer on September 27, 2016, 01:30:20 AM
Wow, I wish I had gotten on this.  I'm looking forward to the reviews.  This is an accessory that I think I could use a lot.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Schokibaerchen on September 27, 2016, 04:38:38 AM
Hi Gary,
Great idea!!!
Greetings from Germany
Sascha


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: dwnthehatch on September 27, 2016, 05:21:21 AM
Missed the giveaway but will be purchasing one anyway.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TD on September 27, 2016, 05:54:03 AM
I would probably tend to use multiple kettles if needed for a large cook. Still there could be times your grate would be useful. I was thinking, if you can produce your grate in stainless, I was wondering what you could produce a full stainless grate for? I would really like to have one. Chrome plating eventually fails and rusts if neglected. Sometimes I think unplated steel would be better. At least it could be seasoned like cast iron.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: HoosierKettle on September 27, 2016, 06:04:10 AM
I have the elevated rack that came with the smokenator. It's handy for doing several racks of ribs in the 26. Smoking ribs is the only thing I've found it useful for so far. Maybe a second brisket?  Don't know I haven't tried that but looks like it would work.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: HoosierKettle on September 27, 2016, 06:05:43 AM
Or maybe would allow enough room for a chicken cut flat and a couple racks of ribs. I'll have to try that.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: dwnthehatch on September 27, 2016, 06:17:36 AM
I'm also interested in one for my 26" Weber Kettle.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Red Kettle Rich on September 27, 2016, 10:53:10 AM
email sent
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on September 27, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Order placed. Review to come. Thanks!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: zavod44 on September 27, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
Hey I ordered one, I'll pay for it I don't care I just like the product.  I'll review it either way. 

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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on September 27, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
Amazon says mine should come Friday. If you make a stainless grate with the flip up ends let us know. We will test that out also. Made in the USA?


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Hogsy on September 27, 2016, 11:26:51 PM
Can you use two at the same time?
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: WNC on September 28, 2016, 01:50:56 PM
Thanks Gary!
Just ordered mine, can't wait to try it out!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: JDann24 on September 29, 2016, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: Dtrouty on September 26, 2016, 07:23:25 PM
Hi Gary, looks like a great item. Quick question, are these bad boys made in the USA or overseas at the moment?

I received my upper deck this morning and can confirm that it's made in China. This isn't a knock on the unit itself, it's feels very well made. I would do a full review today, but already have the WSM going, so I won't get around using it until tomorrow or this weekend.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: jbenavidez2 on September 29, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Just got mine today. Super solid piece man. Great work. Pix to come


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Jon on October 01, 2016, 10:26:47 PM
Well, I wrote a review. I've never done that before, but this is a good product to start with. I'm very happy with the build on this grate.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 04, 2016, 05:35:54 AM
Teaser for my review- (I haven't even taken it completely out of the box but initial impressions from the quick peek are how thick and sturdy the build quality is)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8547/29815211500_51d3047305_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 04, 2016, 07:05:42 AM
Teaser for my review- (I haven't even taken it completely out of the box but initial impressions from the quick peek are how thick and sturdy the build quality is)
(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/29815211500_51d3047305_c.jpg?w=920)
Found on Amazon Here-
Stainless Steel Warming Rack and Grill Grate- For Use with 22.5 Inch Weber Kettle- Charcoal Grilling Accessory  (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IU7HJNU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) As I said before the build quality is thick like Weber's Gourmet Grate System.
Here is how I started out.  A regular smoke set-up using the snake method.  The Country Style Pork Ribs offset of the coals with apple chunk and cherry wood chips.
(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101029-01.jpeg?w=978)
Next to add the Upper Deck.  It fit right in place and there were no issues with clearance of the lid.
(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101206-01.jpeg?w=978)(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101215-01.jpeg?w=978)
The Upper deck provides a whole lot of extra space.  it is billed as a warmig rack but I think where it will shine is with that huge amount of extra space it affords you when smoking.
Next I dropped onto the Upper Deck a porcetta roast and set up the Maverick remote thermometer.
(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101334_hdr-01.jpeg?w=978)(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101512_hdr-01.jpeg?w=978)(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_101610_hdr-01.jpeg?w=978)
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 04, 2016, 08:04:37 AM
Ok. I think I'm sold on this. Hell, who am I kidding. I was sold at the start. I was bummed when I was to late to sign up for the review!

So Gary, is there a possibility of making one for an old school or new 26r?


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 04, 2016, 09:04:58 AM
When the country style pork ribs had the color I wanted I slid a Weber disposable tin pan under with some Sweet Baby rays and coated the ribs, then covered with aluminum foil to let them braise for about 40 minutes. The tin pan fit perfectly under the Upper Deck unit allowing a continuation of indirect cooking while still having the porcetta roast unfazed on the "Upper Deck"
(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_112523-01.jpeg?w=978)(https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/20161004_112723_hdr-01.jpeg?w=978)
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 04, 2016, 09:15:16 AM
Nice Cook! Great visual there @ captjoe06


Quote from: Travis on October 04, 2016, 08:04:37 AM
Ok. I think I'm sold on this. Hell, who am I kidding. I was sold at the start. I was bummed when I was to late to sign up for the review!

So Gary, is there a possibility of making one for an old school or new 26r?


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Did you buy/order one already @Travis?   
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on October 04, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
Makes me want to get stainless grates.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 04, 2016, 09:24:56 AM
My Sister Topped The Smoked Porcetta with Her Carrot Cake Marmalade, Yum!
Find the recipe for that on her website www.sistafeliciaskitchen.com (http://www.sistafeliciaskitchen.com/carrot-cake-marmalade/)
Carrot Cake Marmalade (http://www.sistafeliciaskitchen.com/carrot-cake-marmalade/) (https://northeastbbqdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/smokedporcetta.jpg?w=920)
Would not have been possible to cook both things at the same time on my kettle without the Upper Deck.  Obviously with the incredible build quality and huge cook space increase, this is an absolute no brainer purchase.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 05, 2016, 01:53:46 AM
@greenweb No, I haven't ordered one yet. Payday is around the corner!!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: Travis on October 04, 2016, 08:04:37 AM
Ok. I think I'm sold on this. Hell, who am I kidding. I was sold at the start. I was bummed when I was to late to sign up for the review!

So Gary, is there a possibility of making one for an old school or new 26r?

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Quote from: Travis on October 05, 2016, 01:53:46 AM
@greenweb No, I haven't ordered one yet. Payday is around the corner!!

@ Travis-  I have one coming to me from Gary.  The issue is that Amazon.com will not ship to Canada. >:(  It will be awhile before he says he can set anything up in .ca for me to pick up for free.  Or I can pay $40 shipping now to get one which is more than the item itself.

So, I suggested to Gary if I can give my prom-code to someone and buy one for myself when he set it up on .ca.  I just got a word from Gary that I could do as I wish.   So, if you want one.... say so.  I will send my prom-code to you via PM.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 05, 2016, 10:12:52 AM
@greenweb. I appreciate your offer and I'll definitely take you up on it. I hate to hear it though. Just for shipping? I'll pm you
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: Travis on October 05, 2016, 10:12:52 AM
@greenweb. I appreciate your offer and I'll definitely take you up on it. I hate to hear it though. Just for shipping? I'll pm you

Done! Hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 05, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Ok. I'm signed up! Thanks again for the more than generous offer @greenweb. I appreciate it very much!
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Travis on October 05, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Ok. I'm signed up! Thanks again for the more than generous offer @greenweb. I appreciate it very much!

Glad to hear you are signed up.  More than happy to pass on some kettle love.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: timothylee on October 05, 2016, 04:29:44 PM
Hope I'm not too late!

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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: timothylee on October 05, 2016, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: Gary@315 on September 26, 2016, 04:54:47 PM
Hello, Everyone!

My name is Gary and I'm new to this group; I've been a Weber kettle enthusiast since I was a teenager and the thrill of the coals hasn't left me yet at 41.   I've never owned a gas grill (I know there are Weber gas grill guys out there, not knocking ya!) and work with my Performer, One-Touch Gold, 18 inch portable and Smokey Joe for all of my grilling needs...too many according to my wife; I've assured her there is always a need for each.   

This past summer, I had a large gathering at my house and while I was grilling on my Performer, I wished that I had a true upper cooking area where I could grill, warm or  expand my indirect smoking surface...something much more versatile than the Weber 3200 rack that comes with the Master Touch series grills.    I happen to manufacture grill accessories ( as well as other items) for a living and I got to work making a prototype.   After some time, I'm happy to announce to all of you that I'm in full production of what I'm calling the Upper Deck rack; my primary sales platform is Amazon.  After visiting this site, I now realize my product is very similar the the old, 1970's Elevated Half Grill, but it IS  different, and to my knowledge, the EHG is not available on the market any longer. 

I'd like to know if any of you might be interested in getting a Upper Deck at no charge in return for an HONEST review on Amazon.  If you love it as much as I do, great! If you think improvements can be made, let me know; if you hate it, please tell me.   I can only handle 10 giveaways, so I will honor the first 10 folks who reach out to me at the email below. 

Guys, being new to this site and not seeing any posted rules, if I'm out of line with this posting, please accept my apologies in advance. I'm just looking for honest feedback from Weber nuts like me as I try to launch this product that I think we be loved by any 22 inch kettle owner.  If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.

Link to my product for your review: https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Warming-Charcoal-Grilling-Accessory/dp/B01IU7HJNU/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1474937486&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=upper+deck+grill+grate

Now go out there and light those coals!

Best,
Gary
gary@315products.com
Hope I'm too late! Looks pretty cool!

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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on October 05, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
Chad has emailed me a couple times. Amazon has changed their TOS. Reviews on discounted items is now prohibited. He is asking that we not review it.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: WNC on October 05, 2016, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: TheDude on October 05, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
Chad has emailed me a couple times. Amazon has changed their TOS. Reviews on discounted items is now prohibited. He is asking that we not review it.

Same here. It's a shame too, because mine just got here a couple of days ago and it seems really solidly made. Can't wait to use it!

It actually came a day too late for me to try it out on a three rack rib cook...

Not any fault of Gary and shipping, it actually got here a day before it was supposed to
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 05:22:31 PM
Quote from: TheDude on October 05, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
Chad has emailed me a couple times. Amazon has changed their TOS. Reviews on discounted items is now prohibited. He is asking that we not review it.

That is correct! Everyone who got one including Travis can not leave a review on Amazon.  As of 10/3, Amazon changed their policy and reviews for products that were given away at a discount are banned. They are suspending seller accounts over this is what I was told. Gary has been nice enough to fill me in on all the details. I am sure all 9 of you got the e-mail from Gary not to put in reviews on Amazon.com. 1 review already in before 10/3.

Real tough break for a Grillfella who is trying to launch his product that lot of us may want to have.   I wonder for members here that buys one can do a honest review on the Amazon.com and link it to reviews of other 9 done here later.  Just a thought if the upper rack happens to be a great product, than why not.

Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on October 05, 2016, 05:25:33 PM
I would honestly encourage any of you guys to buy one. This thing is really well made. HD SS and all welds are ground smooth.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
How about you 9 lucky guys still do a honest review on the rack and post in General section under product reviews on this forum so we can all check them out.  This may indirectly help Gary out as well.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on October 05, 2016, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
How about you 9 lucky guys still do a honest review on the rack and post in General section under product reviews on this forum so we can all check them out.  This may indirectly help Gary out as well.

I'll be doing this when I get to use mine. I also asked Gary if there were other sites he would like a review left on for the launch. It is a solid grate and I've practically begged Gary to make a flip grate of the same quality. I'd love to get stainless grates for my kettles.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 06, 2016, 02:11:21 AM
Quote from: kettlebb on October 05, 2016, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: greenweb on October 05, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
How about you 9 lucky guys still do a honest review on the rack and post in General section under product reviews on this forum so we can all check them out.  This may indirectly help Gary out as well.

I'll be doing this when I get to use mine. I also asked Gary if there were other sites he would like a review left on for the launch. It is a solid grate and I've practically begged Gary to make a flip grate of the same quality. I'd love to get stainless grates for my kettles.


Crimson Performer Platinum "AH", Red MT "P", Red Mist SSP "EZ", Faded Black "A", Black OTG "DE".

Absolutely all in on a SS flip grate with the same quality. 
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 06, 2016, 06:25:54 AM
I will totally be in for a affordable, well made, ss flip grate.

As for the review, I'll post something here when it comes in and I get to use it for sure. Really looking forward to it. It is a downer about the Amazon ordeal, but I can understand. I think if this product is as stand up as everyone is saying, Gary shouldn't have a problem getting it off the ground.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: hawgheaven on October 06, 2016, 07:28:14 AM
I'm on board with the Upper Deck... ordering one today. I would love to see a stainless version of the Gourmet grill grate as well...
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on October 06, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Guys,

Thanks for all of your reviews, comments, suggestions and overall interest in my Upper Deck grate!  I truly appreciate all of the positive feedback as well as for your understanding with the Amazon situation.  They change the rules without notice and BAM, your account is done.....amazing, right?  Unreal, actually. A big thanks and shout out to you guys for looking out for me in the forum and for your willingness to help make this product a success... y'all are the best; I mean that.

So...just to reiterate once more....please, if you were one of the guys who received the free Deck, don't leave a review on Amazon under any circumstances.   I DO, of course, welcome feedback on WKC, blogs, my personal email or anything outside of the Bezo's empire.  :-).   Now...if you BUY the Deck at full, listed price on Amazon, they are happy to accept your review.  Ahh...the nature of things these days...

OK....on to the fun stuff...I've been on the road with work for the past few days, so I apologize for my lack of response to your questions/comments.  So here we go!

Some of you guys asked where my product is made...I work with a very trusted manufacturer in China that produces at MY tested and approved quality standards. I think you guys who have the Deck can attest to the level of quality I require in order to take a product to market.

After reading all of your suggestions, it looks like an SS201 or SS304  hinged, flip grate would be something of value to you guys.  So....I'm going to produce both and have them added to my line up.  I'll let all of you know when they arrive!

Smokey Joe guys....what are your thoughts on an Upper Deck for the Smokey? 

Thanks again for all of your feedback and support.  I hope to get out on the kettle this weekend myself for round two with my Slow N'Sear.   Pork butt on the lower, ribs on the deck.   
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: iCARRY on October 06, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
Gary,

Great quality. Can't wait to use it.

I think an upper deck for an 18 would be a better idea.


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on October 06, 2016, 01:12:27 PM
I'm in on the grates. Just wish I could get same price. Lol JK. You have been generous enough.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: blieb on October 06, 2016, 01:23:49 PM
+1 for grates ... Sounds killer!

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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: haeffb on October 06, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
In layman's terms, what would be the difference between the two grades of stainless, and what would be the cost difference? I guess I'm not sure I'd see the point in offering both.
Title: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 06, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
⬆️⬆️⬆️ I'd like to understand the difference too


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: JDann24 on October 06, 2016, 03:54:32 PM
The Upper Deck is very well made. I'd be in on the ss flip grate and a smokey joe upper decker.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on October 06, 2016, 06:27:19 PM

Quote from: haeffb on October 06, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
In layman's terms, what would be the difference between the two grades of stainless, and what would be the cost difference? I guess I'm not sure I'd see the point in offering both.

304 has a higher nickel content and should be more corrosion resistant. Good for food applications.

http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/stainless/stainless_steel_comparator.pdf


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on October 07, 2016, 06:27:23 AM
kettlebb is absolutely correct. The 304 is a higher grade SS (more nickel) and provides excellent corrosion resistance, comes at a higher cost point. 
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on October 07, 2016, 07:13:10 AM
First cook on the 2nd Gen Performer I picked up last night-

Chicken thighs/ smashed red bliss potatoes using the Upper Deck for increased offset cooking space.  Zero chance of getting this much food on the cooker with just a regular grate. 
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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 07, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
To Gary and others who suggested flip up SS cooking grates to be made.

To be successful for Gary, his product has to be attractive in quality and price point against his competition. Currently there are Weber 4mm SS and Grill Care SS 4mm flip up grates available.  Weber is at $50 and Grill Care at $20 on Amazon  with 5 year warranty, and here in Canada I can get one for $30 Can. I am getting one this weekend for my new Green grill. 

Here is the Grill Care SS Grate.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/07/91Eno9G91XL._SL1500_.jpg)

IMO, Gary has to make them like 5mm thick and at around  mid $40-$50 to be successful. Of course, it has to be quality product like your Upper Deck from what I can tell.  I would check out Grill Care before lunching your version.  Maybe you already know this but I wasn't sure. We all want you to be successful in your venture so that you can continue to bring out what we want. So I thought I mention this.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: kettlebb on October 07, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
True but you have to consider the materials and quality. I haven't seen the other grates in person but Gary's elevated grate is pretty damn sweet. If he made like flip grates out of 304 SS and they were under $50 I'd be all over it. Do you know if the Weber or other grates are 304 SS?


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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 07, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: kettlebb on October 07, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
True but you have to consider the materials and quality. I haven't seen the other grates in person but Gary's elevated grate is pretty damn sweet. If he made like flip grates out of 304 SS and they were under $50 I'd be all over it. Do you know if the Weber or other grates are 304 SS?


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That is exactly my point. Without knowing the competition, in this case Grill Care, we can not say for sure if or how future Gary's SS grates will stack up or how it should be priced based on materials and quality like you said.  Maybe the Grill Care at $20 might be just as high quality in SS grade as would Gary's at $50.  Now that would not make much business sense for the seller or for buyers.

I'd be all over it too at under $50. But not so simple for Gary lunching a new product. I think Gary will bring out high quality grates but still needs to do his homework if he has not done yet.  I am all for suggesting a great product. I just hope his product is better and a good price point is all I am saying.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on October 12, 2016, 06:01:14 AM
Thanks for the input, guys.  I haven't checked out the Grill Care line, but at $20, I can't imagine SS 304 is being used.   I'm working on the details now; will keep you guys updated   

CaptJoe......awesome pics!   Thanks for posting!!
Title: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 12, 2016, 08:16:18 AM
@Gary@315. Got your product yesterday. Out of the box it looks well made for sure. Clean welds, Doesn't feel flimsy, or cheap.
It's a drizzly day today so what a better time to try it out!
20 abt's on the "Upper Deck", 2 pork steaks and 2 kielbasa links on the bottom. No way could I fit all this on a 22 grate. I would have used my 26r.
So far fella's, I'm happy. I think the size is right. Imo, if it were bigger it might be difficult to reach meat on the bottom grate. After this cook and if I have time before work,  I'm going to dial up the heat and try some wings.
I noticed about a 25-30 degrees difference between the two racks before food went on. I've got a maverick on the bottom, nestled between the proteins and an oven thermos on top. It's reading pretty even with the lid thermo.



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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 12, 2016, 10:05:56 AM
@ Travis - Looks great!  8)    Just wondering if it is made from SS304 grade.

As for SS Grill Care grate I just bought is not SS 304 grade. It failed the magnet test. I still think it is better than Weber chrome plated grate.  I don't have Weber SS flip up grate to compare but my Gas Genesis SS grate pass the test.  I have edited previous post to reflect my new finding.

Love to check out and compare when Gary brings out his version.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 12, 2016, 10:19:43 AM
@greenweb. I just went out with a magnetic bottle opener and checked. No stick. Now, the grill is still going so I don't know if that counts. I didn't clean the tested area, but did place it on the underside and it fell off. Does that count or does it need to be cool and clean?
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 12, 2016, 10:25:57 AM
Quote from: Travis on October 12, 2016, 10:19:43 AM
@greenweb. I just went out with a magnetic bottle opener and checked. No stick. Now, the grill is still going so I don't know if that counts. I didn't clean the tested area, but did place it on the underside and it fell off. Does that count or does it need to be cool and clean?

You did not have to do that, but thanks!  That is good!  Most likely the top grade SS. Gary could verify this for us later.

Looking forward to his SS flip up grates.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on October 12, 2016, 11:33:51 AM
Wow this looks awesome.  I have a DIY second grate I use for adding turds to smoke as a snack while I am doing a longer smoke on the main grate.  Makes it so easy to load up the second grate as you are making the turds, carry it outside, remove the lid, then place the second grate on and get the lid back on in about 10 seconds.  This grate here looks way easier to place on than my DIY grate and it looks like you could fit two of them at once if you wanted or needed to.
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on October 12, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
Travis...thanks for testing out the grate and for your review.....pics are AWESOME!   

Do any of you guys mind if I use your pics on Amazon?

@greenweb....the Upper Deck is made from SS 201.   BTW.....do you have a link to the Grill Care grate you mention?  I can't seem to find it when I search.   Thanks! 
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: TheDude on October 12, 2016, 01:29:05 PM
Don't think the heat would matter. As long as it's not like one of the flimsy magnets from the pizza place, I wouldn't think a little grime would matter much.
Title: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: haeffb on October 12, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Travis, pic #3 is beautiful. Did you do that with a phone?

Also, why am I unsurprised that your only handy magnet is attached to a bottle opener?
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Travis on October 12, 2016, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: haeffb on October 12, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Travis, pic #3 is beautiful. Did you do that with a phone?

Also, why am I unsurprised that your only handy magnet is attached to a bottle opener?
LMAO! You know it man!!

Yeah, that was my phone.

Gary, more than welcome to use whatever pics you want from me. Good product man. Thank you and thank you greenweb.




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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 12, 2016, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: Gary@315 on October 12, 2016, 01:16:31 PM

@greenweb....the Upper Deck is made from SS 201.   BTW.....do you have a link to the Grill Care grate you mention?  I can't seem to find it when I search.   Thanks!

Here is for 18". For some reason, it is more $ than the 22".  https://www.amazon.com/Grill-Care-17433-Stainless-Compatible/dp/B00TEBDRWY

When I picked up 22" Grill Care, they also had 18" for lot less $.  This is all I can find on 22". I think this is it. https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7436-Replacement-Hinged-Cooking/dp/B000WEPHKW/ref=sr_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1476317463&sr=1-4&keywords=ss+grate

Here is the one I picked up here in Canada.
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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: greenweb on October 12, 2016, 05:26:55 PM
I found few more that might be an interest to you.

Not sure if this is same as the Grill Care. It says it is thicker than oem.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Weber-7436-Replacement-Hinged-Cooking-Grate-model-number-7436-22-5-diameter-NEW/111893507383?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140620091118%26meid%3Df35f0924ff6e43929e000acc86be005c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D191975919234

And this you maybe interested in.   0.25'' thick 304 stainless. I just found this. This is actually what I had in mind.  http://www.ebay.ca/itm/21-5-Round-Flip-Up-BBQ-Stainless-Grill-Cook-Grate-KG-7436-Weber-replacement-/191975919234?hash=item2cb2a80e82:g:cxgAAOSwU-pXvLCu  Custom Made in Nolensville, TN USA.  They also offer non flip up grate for less $.

Don't forget Weber also offers SS flip up grates too.   
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: Gary@315 on October 13, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Thanks, greenweb. 
Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: WNC on October 30, 2016, 08:54:10 AM
Finally had the need to use the upper deck I got from Gary.
Works so well for extra wings around the vortex! Just flipped them so we'll see how they turn out, but you know it'll be great.
Thanks again @Gary@315!
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Title: Re: Warming/Grilling/Smoking "Upper Deck" For 22 Inch Kettles
Post by: captjoe06 on November 09, 2016, 08:11:47 AM
Quote from: Gary@315 on October 12, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
Travis...thanks for testing out the grate and for your review.....pics are AWESOME!   

Do any of you guys mind if I use your pics on Amazon?

@greenweb....the Upper Deck is made from SS 201.   BTW.....do you have a link to the Grill Care grate you mention?  I can't seem to find it when I search.   Thanks!

Any word on the ss flip up grates?