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TeddyC

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Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« on: January 21, 2015, 06:51:37 PM »
Hello all, I'm about to add the Mastertouch 22 to my arsenal.  My main baby is my 18" WSM.  Flo has had many of good smokes in her belly over the last couple of years. 

Here's my issue.  The Mastertouch comes with the charcoal Fuel holder. If I want to do a light smoke, I can throw some wood chips on top, and have the fuel holders set up in indirect. Bingo, I'm smoking... 

So, what's the point of the smokenator?  Does the smokenator do anything different from what I just described?

Thanks, while I'm no newbie to smoking, I'm just learning the kettle game.
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MINIgrillin

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 07:17:53 PM »
I kinda see it as indirect+. Charcoal basket with a heat deflector.

I'm sure it holds more coals than a basket tho
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1buckie

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 07:29:50 PM »
Sure, you can toss in some chips or small chunks anytime.....here's medium hickory chips added to personal sized turkey meatloafs...



adds in a nice extra layer of flavor.....



small to medium chunks work fine too.......I pre-heat them so they don't just smoulder thick smoke....



You can easily do long smokes on a kettle also....like so:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/bbq-food-pics/bob's-beef-o-rama/msg20382/#msg20382

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/grilling-bbqing/re-print-ok-what's-in-kettle-3/msg35831/#msg35831

The Smokenator is a good enclosure for indirect, to contain the coals in about 1/4 of he under grate area.....you can load it up pretty good & go for quite a long time..........they work pretty good.......

Some folks do about the same using firebrick as a blocking also......



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Golly

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 11:01:39 PM »
not worth buying in my opinion

i made one used it a few times

it nothing special imo

save your coin for a roti for your chooks
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MrHoss

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2015, 02:34:43 AM »
I use firebricks as the smokenator caused one of my Kettles to warp. All those coals piled up against the side for too many cooks just wrecked the Kettle. About 25-30 cooks did it for me. I find using firebricks gives me a better cook anyways so I really do not miss that contraption. If you wanted me to mail you mine I would but the postage would be a waste of money.
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Johnpv

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 04:07:17 AM »
I've tried using it a couple of times and honestly I don't find it worth the money.  If I'm going to do any smoking in my Kettle, the snake method just works 10x better for me.

jdefran

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 04:20:05 AM »
I enjoying using mine, very fool proof. However, I didn't purchase mine at full retail.  I purchased a used OTS (like 3 cooks on it) for $75 and it came with a ton of accessories: grill grates, chimney, various wood chips, smokenator, hinged grate, thermo added to lid, several firewires, etc.

Now I also haven't tried the snake method in my kettle; therefore I may be the one missing out. My assumption is, based on previous comments, the snake works well and negates the need for a smokenator.

The one thing I dislike about the smokenator is the sorry water pan, it's too small. I've heard there are solutions for that though.

BluesDaddy

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 09:10:38 AM »
I never regretted buying mine and still use it a few times during the year. Meathead loves it coupled with a PID and has good tips on using it. http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/smokenator_tips.html

wyd

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 09:41:55 AM »
If you bank your coals off the sides of your kettle all the time like a Smokenator would do wouldn't that over time kinda spider the outside finish on your kettle from all the heat being directly on the kettle wall?  I like to use the Weber charcoal holders as this keeps my charcoal off the sides of the kettle.
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Troy

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 10:56:49 AM »
I never regretted buying mine and still use it a few times during the year. Meathead loves it coupled with a PID and has good tips on using it. http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/smokenator_tips.html

meathead loves it because he makes money every time someone buys one from his page ;)

Red Kettle Rich

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 12:03:32 PM »
oops
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 12:05:39 PM by Red Kettle Rich »
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mirkwood

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 02:18:37 PM »
I use mine a lot and haven't any issues with the side of my Performer, it very rarely gets hotter than 275 and will normally
run 225 ~ 245 so I don't know if that kind of heat will damage the bowl, I mean I usually grill in the 350 ~ 425 temp
range in the same cooker and no issues with the finish yet.

jdefran,

I don't use the stock water pan, instead I use a disposable 1 pound aluminum loaf pan and put it over one
of the smaller round holes and the temp will lock in at 225 ~ 245 for about 5 hours at a time and the water is good
for that amount of time too. just use hot tap water and you are good to go..

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CharliefromLI

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1buckie

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 05:28:48 PM »
I use mine a lot and haven't any issues with the side of my Performer, it very rarely gets hotter than 275 and will normally
run 225 ~ 245 so I don't know if that kind of heat will damage the bowl, I mean I usually grill in the 350 ~ 425 temp
range in the same cooker and no issues with the finish yet.

jdefran,

I don't use the stock water pan, instead I use a disposable 1 pound aluminum loaf pan and put it over one
of the smaller round holes and the temp will lock in at 225 ~ 245 for about 5 hours at a time and the water is good
for that amount of time too. just use hot tap water and you are good to go..



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mirkwood

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Re: Smokenator...is it really worth buying?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2015, 08:33:33 PM »
Hi ya Mr Buckie, hope y'all had a kick butt holiday season and thanks for the kind words.
I'm still trying to figure out if having 18 WSM is worth it or not as I still get better results
with the Somkenator.  But to be fair I haven't cooked nearly as much on the WSM as
the Performer so the struggle goes on..
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