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addicted-to-smoke

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Brisket #1
« on: June 09, 2015, 08:14:32 AM »
I watched Franklin's first episode with my dad, for inspiration, covering ( of course) brisket. http://video.pbs.org/program/bbq-franklin/ and yes I am naturally attracted to anything that is at once simple but potentially elusive.

I initially intended to use the 26"s extra breathing room but my takeaway from Episode 1 was something I already knew, mentioned right up front in the show: change only 1 thing while learning. Since the majority of my cooks will be on a 22, that's what I used instead.

What we have here is a smaller one, about 5.5lbs, trimmed to about 1/4" except for the tip which was left at about 1/2" by the butcher. Edit: Or maybe I have point and flat parts reversed.








Dad likes Montreal Steak seasoning and so we started with that but ran out after doing only the fat side. Oops. Kosher salt and coarse ground black pepper for the "meat" side. I'm starting it naked and may foil it at some time later. I honestly don't have a full plan here, except that I didn't want to foil it the whole time and have no butcher's paper for "central Texas" style. As you can see, it's not super heavy seasoning so I don't expect a tremendous bark to it; this will likely influence my decision to foil sooner rather than later.




I surrounded a rectangular drip tray with Kingsford Competition, 2x1 rows with hickory chips sprinkled throughout. About 14? or so were lit to begin the fuse. Lid = 250, grate = 225 with top lid open, intakes half open.







I put it on at 9:40, with the point farthest away from the heat and would like to take it off around 5:30 or 6 but at this point am not sure if that'll work. Any insights are appreciated.





As I type this, my dad's checked the lid thermo and he says it now only reports 210, so I'm supposing what's happened is that bigger pile ran out in this first 90 minutes and the snake doesn't have enough to sustain the heat. I forgot his kettle seals better than mine I had him open the intakes fully. I'll check it in a few.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2015, 06:35:44 PM by addicted-to-smoke »
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 08:27:18 AM »
I run my vents wide open with a 2x2x1 snake most of the way around it.

Looks like you are off to a good start..I love me some Brisket!

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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 08:45:00 AM »
11:45, two hours into it.

Thanks Indy.

My fire was dying with only about 3-4 coals lit. Pretty sure my charcoal arrangement wasn't packed/stacked tightly enough to engage enough of the rest.

I added a few more to end of the existing and they caught right away, and probably doubled the rest of the snake so if nothing else should allow enough of them to catch as they go around. The drip pan is also acting as somewhat of a barrier to prevent too many from falling away from the pack.

Back up to 230 now; gonna let it ride up to whatever it wants to do this next hour to make up for lost time and then next hour take it back down in temp if necessary.
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 09:36:13 AM »
45 minutes later, 12:30, I looked. Lid at 400, grate 350. LOL I guess it "caught up" so I closed down the intakes a bunch.

Variables? What variables? :) We're doing precision work here.
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 10:40:08 AM »
1:25, I can see now that by my posted times I'm starting to peek at it sooner and sooner. :)

So, been reading. Because I don't have a whole packer I'm told my tenderness challenge is greater, and greater still if I have a "hunk of flat" (which, I don't know if I do?)

Cooker's been at about 250-260 for the last hour. I just closed it a little more, down probably to 1/4 open on the bottom. About half the charcoal is gone and I hope for a roughly 7-8 hr cook that's OK.

That fat-side up sure doesn't look like much fat, now, so something's happening.



 
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 12:11:41 PM »
It's making me hungry!!!

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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 12:18:48 PM »
2:30, about 5hrs on the smoker, er grill I mean ... Temps taken at two spots was high 160s to low 170s

I wrapped it in foil and gave a little water spritz before closing it up. The bark, such as it is, isn't this prominent in real life. And foiling won't "help" that either, but at this point I'm wanting tenderness and not presentation so much.




I'm assuming 2 hours from now, 5:00 would be too early to pull off the grill. 6:00 would be great also but I don't think I'll be able to hold back the crowd past 6:30. So yes I'm fretting about not having time to let it rest much, whenever it does appear finished. Around 4-4:30 I might just crank up the machine and start using the rest of the fuel to get us to the home stretch
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 12:50:29 PM »
Looking beauty so far. When a toothpick goes in like warm butter and comes out with no resistance she be done. Wrap and let rest till internal hits about 160f then carve only what you are going to eat. Wrap the rest in parchment for storage....foil will make it a little mushy I find.
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 12:54:58 PM »
As I mentioned above, it was already higher than that 30 mins ago when I added the foil. I'm under the impression brisket needs to be much closer to 200 before the process is stopped?

Not sure at what temp I can pull it at and let it finish on its own up to there. For example if I pull it off at 180 I can't imagine it would "find" 20 additional degrees on its own sitting in an insulated cooler or whatever. What am I not understanding here?
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 01:26:05 PM »
It's hard to tell exactly what piece you might have there @ 5-1/2#...........

This:



....looks like it may be mostly flat, with some point area on top.....where you can see the reddish meat in a "U" shape there is where they will come apart if that's so..........


Where you want to test for tender is in the lower portion, right below that "U" headed toward the top of the picture......that's your "slide easy probe tender" / "knife thru warm butter" area to aim for......


One thing I've found from watching UDS & WSM cooks is to at least start fatcap down, to sort of protect it from the heat......it helps a little with kettles also, as the heat is so close......

Finishing temp is halfway useless on these things.....anywhere from 185 ~208, depending a lot on where you test......

That looks really good, the stall will end when it starts to rise into the higher 170's.....if it lags much,  let it go back up to 275~300.....the cow can take it....esp. after you've cooked away for awhile.....

Let rest, breathing a bit, as long as you can stand to.......if it drops to 160 or even a bit lower, you'll be fine......rest is real important, as it has worked very hard to bring you juicy goodness........... ;D
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 01:33:45 PM »
I cook to 200f before checking. Usually about 204f is the magic number for me.
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 01:37:45 PM »
4:30pm
5 hrs naked, 2 hrs foiled

I poked it in several places, getting anywhere from 190-205. With the "instant" thermometer it seems to glide in fairly darn easily.

I turned off the machine and will put it into a low-temp kitchen oven now, I suppose, with foil. Or maybe just let it rest in the machine since this kettle cools down pretty fast and it's about 85 degrees outside. Dad has no cooler, etc here.

Actually I also have to start cooking the sweet potatoes now! Second machine about to fire up, I'm behind on that now ...
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 01:55:02 PM »
Actually, instead of firing up the second kettle I used the second kettle to rest it and setup the already-hot 22 for the potatoes so they can start ASAP. Full chimney of charcoal nearly ready.

It's not quite 5:00. I've turned on the kitchen oven for 200 (it takes a long time to heat up) and will let the brisket stay foiled in there for about 30 minutes or so before resting on the counter 30-45 minutes until carving. Hope all this works!
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2015, 01:59:11 PM »
How did it probe?

It will seem like you're going to fall right thru the meat in behind the probe when it's right......at that point, just let it rest loosely wrapped not under more heating.....or it will get overdone & dry....
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Re: Brisket #1 (in progress)
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2015, 02:10:25 PM »
As best as I could manage, my thermometer was my "probe." I thought it went in pretty easily, but what do I know? Fall through, maybe not so much.

It's still wrapped in foil, but sitting in the 200 degree oven. I don't *think* it should dry out like that in the next 30 mins? At that point I intend to yank it and put it on a large serving plate covered loosely with the au jus drippings I saved from the cook.

Hope all this works! X2
It's the iconic symbol for the backyard. It's family/friends, food and fun. What more do you need to feel everything [is] going to be all right. As long as we can still have a BBQ in our backyard, the world seems a bit of a better place. At least for that moment. -reillyranch