I can’t seem to make melt in your mouth wings

elninohese · May 22, 2018, 11:24:37 AM

cool thanks...will try for long times than 30 mins...maybe more lump..higher heat in baskets...

Firemunkee · May 22, 2018, 06:34:35 PM

Would cracking the lid work well with wings or would that be too hot? Also when cracking the lid and having the charcoal pushed to one side, which direction do you crack the lid? Have the lid hanging over on the same side as the charcoal?

michaelmilitello · May 22, 2018, 06:40:53 PM

I crack the lid opposite the fire.

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addicted-to-smoke · May 22, 2018, 06:41:54 PM

Right, same side as food. Cracking the lid over the heat lets the heat escape straight out, right there. Cracking it over food is like opening the lid vent "even more" ... it creates a bigger draft, and so, more airflow.

Firemunkee · May 22, 2018, 06:50:41 PM

Thanks fellas!

SMOKE FREAK · May 23, 2018, 03:59:27 PM

Quote from: elninohese on May 22, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
so vortex in middle or baskets in middle--400 degrees ..how long do you leave them around the perimeter? 60 mins?

At 400 degrees yer gonna need an hour...At 500+ degrees 40-45 minutes is plenty...I flip em at 30 minutes...

HoosierKettle · May 23, 2018, 04:29:57 PM

Quote from: SMOKE FREAK on May 23, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: elninohese on May 22, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
so vortex in middle or baskets in middle--400 degrees ..how long do you leave them around the perimeter? 60 mins?

At 400 degrees yer gonna need an hour...At 500+ degrees 40-45 minutes is plenty...I flip em at 30 minutes...

This sounds exactly right as far as time and temp. I was flipping them at 30 but the flip side never seams to get the same texture as the initial top side of the wings. I stopped flipping and just let them run a little longer and they turn out great.

I love vortex wings but my favorite are top rack wsm no pan wings.

Wings are always a work in fine tuning my process. I like the practice though.

I also like spreading the coals cooking direct and turning often. Many many ways to cook them

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SMOKE FREAK · May 23, 2018, 04:43:48 PM

Quote from: HoosierKettle on May 23, 2018, 04:29:57 PM
Quote from: SMOKE FREAK on May 23, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: elninohese on May 22, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
so vortex in middle or baskets in middle--400 degrees ..how long do you leave them around the perimeter? 60 mins?

At 400 degrees yer gonna need an hour...At 500+ degrees 40-45 minutes is plenty...I flip em at 30 minutes...

I also like spreading the coals cooking direct and turning often. Many many ways to cook them

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That's how I always did em before the Vortex entered my life...
Still do em this way if I want em sauced...Thinned sauce...sauce and turn, sauce and turn. sauce and turn...

addicted-to-smoke · May 23, 2018, 05:12:29 PM

If I did wings @400 for an hour they'd be leather chips. At 500 degrees they'd be chunks of char.

Really? They're small pieces of meat. Legs and thighs don't take that long at those heats.

What am I misunderstanding here? Something-something-something crispy something?

SMOKE FREAK · May 23, 2018, 05:36:43 PM

With my kettles I just monitor the lid temp...Pretty sure it's not that hot at the grate...Temp is just a reference point so you can repeat the results...

Also I don't separate the two pieces of wing...But I doubt that makes much diff in the end...

HoosierKettle · May 24, 2018, 03:43:10 AM

Quote from: addicted-to-smoke on May 23, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
If I did wings @400 for an hour they'd be leather chips. At 500 degrees they'd be chunks of char.

Really? They're small pieces of meat. Legs and thighs don't take that long at those heats.

What am I misunderstanding here? Something-something-something crispy something?

Legs, thighs, wings, all take me 45 min to an hour around baskets or a vortex running wide open.

They are safe to eat before an hour but I like to render most of the fat and crisp the skin if I'm using the vortex cooking method.

My wsm wings take me two hours at 300 cooking direct.

It probably depends on how you like your wings cooked but that's how I prefer them.

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elninohese · May 24, 2018, 04:03:14 AM

Well in the meantime will try my baskets full of lump-- all vents open--wings around the perimeter full vents open for 50 mins.....try to get crispy wings sort of like deep fryer--try to get temps 400

HoosierKettle · May 24, 2018, 04:05:25 AM

Don't be afraid to take one off and eat it. That's the best way to figure out if they are ready

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hawgheaven · May 24, 2018, 08:52:23 AM

What Smoke Freak sez. The Vortex and a Weber are the tools of choice at me casa. Can't go wrong.

Okay, let's dive in! Sauces were served on the side... me BBQ sauce, and me Asian Hoisin Sauce.

Dc_smoke309 · May 24, 2018, 03:03:50 PM

Really would like to try the vortex , but I normally use the SnS and they turn out wonderful. Dam I want some wings !!! Looks awesome !

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I can’t seem to make melt in your mouth wings