Those are my top 2 weapons of choice as well. I've had my iGrill for about a year and use it all the time. I wish it had better range, but it is an awesome tool.....especially being able to email the graphs of each cook to myself for reference. I've only had my thermapen for about a month, but WOW, what a great tool. I use it almost every night, weather I'm grilling or cooking in the kitchen