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Daveb50

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Air gap on wood cart.
« on: July 05, 2017, 12:21:21 PM »
I saw this picture on Facebook today. It was attributed to lack of air gap. I have heard yes and no on whether an air gap is necessary between the wood and the bowl, I guess this answers that question.   

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« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 12:36:42 PM by Daveb50 »

Troy

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 01:00:43 PM »
I think MOST of the wooden carts and tables people build for their kettles are going to end up this way within the next 10 years.

Craig

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Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 01:36:10 PM »
Do you wonder if the fabricated metal ring that the Imperial Sequoia bowls sat in prevented these things from happening?


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Troy

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2017, 01:51:34 PM »
Do you wonder if the fabricated metal ring that the Imperial Sequoia bowls sat in prevented these things from happening?


Holy Grail: 1960s Glen Blue 22 aka The Imperial.

I think the ring helped... but I think it goes beyond materials and construction.
The sequoia is 30+ years old.
Charcoal as a fuel has actually been significantly improved in the last 30 years.
It burns hotter and longer, and our cooking methods have adapted along with it.

I don't think a NOS sequoia would survive more than 3 years of use in my backyard. (i'd love to test this)

@zavod44 built one of the most epic grill tables around. It had gaps and ceramic and it was a SWEET TABLE - but it still turned to charcoal over time.

Mr.CPHo

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 01:58:19 PM »
@chiku has been helping me source numerous parts for my projects and pointed this out to me today:  https://tn-sd.com/charcoal-grill-mounts/

I thought it was kinda pricey, but would consider it if RRR'ing and/or upgrading a Sequoia.  I too would love to test this out.[emoji6]


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Daveb50

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 02:36:29 PM »
It looks like they are supporting the ring on a wood octagon frame underneath, which will still be putting wood in close to the bowl.

SixZeroFour

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 02:52:58 PM »
Even the latest model performer with an all metal table and frame construction leaves 1.5" of air gap between the kettle and table, so thats the absolute minimum I would consider using... In fact I would strongly recommend against using ANY combustible material of any sort on bbq surround or cart - its just not worth the risk.

Here in Canada, at least on built in grill heads, you need to leave at least 18" between the back of the grill and ANY combustible materials or it will not pass code. Overkill for a kettle of course but it gives you an idea of just how quickly and easily fire can spread on a grill. It only takes one little mistake to cause a huge headache.... or worse.

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HoosierKettle

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2017, 03:11:13 PM »
I really don't get the advantage of a built in. A separate wooden cart or table would be just as convenient without any worry of how to install a kettle or fire. In fact, I often think my performer would be better if I got rid of the grill and replaced it with more table.


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kettlebb

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2017, 03:34:39 PM »
I really don't get the advantage of a built in. A separate wooden cart or table would be just as convenient without any worry of how to install a kettle or fire. In fact, I often think my performer would be better if I got rid of the grill and replaced it with more table.


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Completely agree. I like standalone kettles best.


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bbquy

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2017, 04:05:33 PM »
I love my stand alone 26er but I also love my performers.

JDD

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Re: Air gap on wood cart.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2017, 04:42:00 PM »
I love them all.
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