I have a NIB Weber fireplace on its way to me (Thanks
@JEBIV !) and I see Mr. CPHo just scored one in Florida. I thought this would be a great place to ask people that have them if they have any tips or tricks. I'm looking to burn wood in mind, and I read somewhere else on here about maybe putting sand in the bottom to act as a heat buffer from the ground. CaptJoe06 suggested I throw a pair of cheap plastic handles on to keep the nice original wood ones from cracking.
Any other tips or tricks?
Both tips from
@captjoe06 are perfect tips IMO
Yes, put sand in the bottom. It actually says to do that in the manual. I don't know about ground heat buffering, probably helps prevent crazing and popping the bottom. Get a cover to prevent the bottom from filling with water. the water is more of an annoyance than a really problem. Kind of like a WSM bottom filling and you have to dump the mucky soot out.
Another grate assist by JEBIV... not surprised at all.
The fireplace I picked up was in pretty good condition, with only slight crazing on the bottom. It doesn't appear to have been used very much. The prior owner didn't use sand, but used a grate to elevate the fire off the bottom bowl. I'm not sure if all fireplaces had the grate (Euro version didn't), but I do plan to use sand in conjunction with the grate for double protection.
Even though it wasn't used much, it was really difficult to remove the rusted bolts and nuts, especially on the bottom bowl and lower ring. If I were lucky enough to find one BNIB, I'd start with SS hardware and throw the stock hardware in the trash.
Other than sand in the bottom and a cover (Weber still has them in stock last time I checked), I recommend placing it on pavers or concrete at least 12" larger than the footprint of the fire pit.. The lid redirects the heat down and kills the grass surrounding it.
My Happy Cooker is the perfect example of the Sand Issue, I pit sand in the inside ash cooker and it keeps the temperature constant so I can do long slow BBQs in it. When using my Masters touch Kettle i use fire bricks, but somehow that Happy Cooker and the sand hold temp so much better.
Point Being, Mass helps hold temperature, the kettle design of our Weber's is just a happy fluke of the buoy design that rotates the temperature perfectly, But then any GrillFellow will tell you that your bag of MOJO is what makes a cook great. I think several cans of sand in the bottom of a cook is so much mojo I usually keep it a secret.
Great tips!! Mr.CPHo, you put a grate in addition to sand in the Bottom? Like what sized grate?
Does any kind of sand work, or playground / silica sand or some other specified type? I'm guessing I shouldn't just walk down to the beach and snatch up a 5-gallon bucket fulla California's finest? Maybe I'd drive - that would be a long walk with 5 gallons of sand...
After cleaning my fire pit I ordered a cajun bandit 22" wsm coal ring. It fits perfect and looks oem and will keep the wood away from the porcelain. Order SS nuts and acorn nuts, 1 nut and 1 acorn nut is needed per bolt.
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Filibuster, you put this ( https://www.cajunbandit.com/product-p/008.htm ) in the bottom of the fireplace?
I would not think beach sand is "clean enough" to use in a cooker? So, play sand? I mean, they process it a little, yeah?
I'd use sand in my WSM all the time if/when I figure out how to keep it clean. Until then, unfortunately, I'm still chasing the damn vents.
Quote from: putoluto on May 23, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
Great tips!! Mr.CPHo, you put a grate in addition to sand in the Bottom? Like what sized grate?
Does any kind of sand work, or playground / silica sand or some other specified type? I'm guessing I shouldn't just walk down to the beach and snatch up a 5-gallon bucket fulla California's finest? Maybe I'd drive - that would be a long walk with 5 gallons of sand...
The grate in the center came with my fireplace, I do not know if it's original. It's slightly larger in diameter than the 22" charcoal great which is on the right. Also notice the spacing is different. The charcoal grate on the left is from an 18".
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Quote from: putoluto on May 23, 2018, 05:02:28 PM
Filibuster, you put this ( https://www.cajunbandit.com/product-p/008.htm ) in the bottom of the fireplace?
Yes
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I place a grate at the bottom of mine so it's easier to pitche the ashes. Sand will mix in with the ash.
Here's an overall shot, next three shots show the SS acorn nuts.
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Ahhh. Thanks Filibuster, those are great pics! Now I understand. That's a nice clean, easy setup that seems to make everything work smoothly while also protecting the porcelain from contacting the heat source.
Are there any issues with sparks? I was thinking of maybe wrapping 3 feet or so of mesh around it, but in a way that was easily removable when it was time to extinguish the fire or when one did not care about sparks (beach fires).
@putoluto I've noticed it's mostly the type of wood you use, I had some that were like fireworks... some wood is more prone to popping than others, you can look it up or someone here may know, I can't remember off hand.
Now I know what to do with my original Charcoal ring from my wsm since I have the CB ring as well. I just put a new in the box fire pit together and was going to put sand and a grate in it. I ordered the cover through eBay ( actually ordered 2 just so I know I had a back up since Weber doesn't have it anymore)
Sounds great mdb240, pics would be even better :thumbsup:
Quote from: putoluto on May 24, 2018, 06:25:07 PM
Sounds great mdb240, pics would be even better :thumbsup:
I haven't set it up yet as I am still waiting for the cover from eBay. Didn't want it to get exposure to the elements, it's still in my garage staying warm.