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I just ran across this.  Title should read "How to ruin a brand new weber kettle"  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g7cbmQQZnQ

He also said in the comments that he left the top vent CLOSED the entire cook and only the probes for the wires running between the bowl and the lid were is upper air gap. 

I'd rather run my vents the way they were intended. Best of luck to him though.


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My thoughts exactly.

Ditto!

Wth. For much less cost I can get an 18.5 WSM on CL and use it as is.

Similar to the PartyQ.

The problem is not necessarily the product, but the execution.  Anyone who has tried cooking with the top vent completely shut knows that causes soot to settle on the food. The gap the probe wires create under the lid is not enough to prevent this. The fact that this video is from flameboss indicates to me they don't know how to cook with charcoal. That's not confidence inspiring for their product.

Edit:  just looked at the price.  That's insanity.

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Quote from: HoosierKettle on February 22, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
The problem is not necessarily the product, but the execution.  Anyone who has tried cooking with the top vent completely shut knows that causes soot to settle on the food. The gap the probe wires create under the lid is not enough to prevent this. The fact that this video is from flameboss indicates to me they don't know how to cook with charcoal. That's not confidence inspiring for their product.

Edit:  just looked at the price.  That's insanity.

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Are you all familiar with how an ATC works with most pits?

This is a quote from the BBQ Guru instruction manual for the DigiQ

The top damper functions differently with a fan-controlled system than with a natural-draft system. Where the fan damper controls the amount of air flowing into the smoker, the top damper influences the amount of air flowing out. We recommend keeping the top damper as little as possible in order to retain heat and smoke in the cooking chamber, consistent with reaching the desired cooking temperature.

This is how I've always ran my Backwoods, BGE's and WSM's after seeing Shotgun Fred years ago doing a BBQ Guru demo. John Jackson from Stoker was at a Rhythm 'n Que BBQ Class I attended and we talked about top vent openings with his ATC - he didn't seem to have an opinion one way or another and Vince liked to run his top vents slightly open.

So Flame Boss guy likes to cook with his kettle vent closed - and he feels that he gets enough air flow through the gap between the lid and bowl with the probe wires. Whatever works.

The notion that you'll get soot on your food isn't a valid argument with an ATC.

My apologies to flameboss. I didn't know that's how these devices were designed to work.


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No intention to hurt anyone, butt if you learn your kettle, you don't need that contraption. Save the money for food and charcoal. Just sayin'...

Quote from: hawgheaven on February 23, 2017, 06:50:35 AM
No intention to hurt anyone, butt if you learn your kettle, you don't need that contraption. Save the money for food and charcoal. Just sayin'...

+1


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I know nothing of the Flame Boss but my BBQ GURU PartyQ has really came in handy with my 26er. I'd probably use briquettes, otherwise, but I really prefer the flavor of lump when smoking low and slow with the Minion method.

I chose to cut a hole in mine, but I understand that it also can be installed at the top vent. I really haven't experimented much with different top vent positions, typically running it at about 40% open since that grill has exceptional  lid to bowl fit.


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Here's my rib cook the other day with 100% lump, a few small cherry and one pecan chunk, and no water pan. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170223/a38582dfa0032d4b0aa2fb5a0c46dfa8.jpg)

(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr207/stevenzerr/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg) (http://s484.photobucket.com/user/stevenzerr/media/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg.html)
The Ultimate Flame Boss!!!

Quote from: SteveZ on February 23, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr207/stevenzerr/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg) (http://s484.photobucket.com/user/stevenzerr/media/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg.html)
The Ultimate Flame Boss!!!

I could get on board with that


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Quote from: HoosierKettle on February 23, 2017, 11:52:10 AM

Quote from: SteveZ on February 23, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr207/stevenzerr/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg) (http://s484.photobucket.com/user/stevenzerr/media/84WeberKettle2000degrees1_zpsk26x7ad2.jpg.html)
The Ultimate Flame Boss!!!

I could get on board with that


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All you need is a whole bag of leg quarters and a medium Vortex in a 22". No pics but trust me when I say it's best to shut the bottom vent and be careful when checking the chicken with all that grease running around in the kettle around what amounts to a charcoal chimney!


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WAck


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Quote from: hawgheaven on February 23, 2017, 06:50:35 AM
No intention to hurt anyone, butt if you learn your kettle, you don't need that contraption. Save the money for food and charcoal. Just sayin'...

+2. I will say I was extremely impressed by that TTT that you sent me @hoosierkettle. That thing will dial in a temp and hold it for hours. Cool, if you run into town for a bit. I didn't check the price of this flame thing though. How much?


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Quote from: Travis on February 23, 2017, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: hawgheaven on February 23, 2017, 06:50:35 AM
No intention to hurt anyone, butt if you learn your kettle, you don't need that contraption. Save the money for food and charcoal. Just sayin'...

+2. I will say I was extremely impressed by that TTT that you sent me @hoosierkettle. That thing will dial in a temp and hold it for hours. Cool, if you run into town for a bit. I didn't check the price of this flame thing though. How much?


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$325-$350 is what I saw when I looked it up. At that point wouldn't it make more sense to get a pellet smoker??  I haven't used one but people seem to like them.  I liked the ttt because it's mechanical and not a digital device. Mechanical is always more fool proof imo.


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