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Red Kettle Rich

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Inexpensive temp controller ??
« on: February 08, 2014, 12:33:07 PM »
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Troy

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 01:10:57 PM »
I have one of those. It works surprisingly well.

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meat

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 03:36:03 PM »
Stupid question
But vents on bottom open or closed??Closed wouldn't it suck ash on your food??
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Troy

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 04:22:53 PM »
Open. This doesn't force air, it simply opens and closes the top vent.

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SlickedBack

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 04:39:00 PM »
Is there any advantage over just turning the vent itself? I mean it looks cool but what would an advantage be?


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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 04:39:26 PM »
I love it! The butterfly valve is on a bimetallic spring I presume?
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1buckie

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 05:35:47 PM »
Open. This doesn't force air, it simply opens and closes the top vent.

Is that the way you've used it Troy?

Says in the instructions:

"3. On a lit grill, secure the lid and close all the vents EXCEPT FOR THE TOP
VENT. Remember: Tiptoptemp must be able to control all the airflow."

It would seem what they're doing is having all the air, intake & output, run thru the top vent......

Not sure said the slightly skeptical part of me...... ::)

Reason I say skeptical is I'd hate to have stale smoke stalling inside if the exhaust vent was too pinched............. :(
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saxart

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2014, 07:00:20 PM »
"On a lit grill, secure the lid and close all the vents EXCEPT FOR THE TOP VENT."

Huh???   (scratches head)

How do they expect the coals to stay lit if the bottom vents are closed? ? ? ?     :o
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Red Kettle Rich

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2014, 09:25:58 PM »
My plan is to open the vents on my SJG mini some and see how some chix turns out.  With the mini it just seems wrong to not mess around  8)
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Troy

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2014, 11:04:51 PM »
i used it with the bottom partially opened, with the same concerns as buckie.

i've had it for several years now. I'd be happy to make some videos reviewing it if you guys would like.

meat

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 05:31:39 PM »
Yes please
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Johnpv

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2014, 02:57:19 AM »
So I take it there's no fan or blower in it?  It just gives a tighter seal for the top vent and a different way of controlling the top air flow. 

DirectDrive

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2014, 05:31:52 AM »
So I take it there's no fan or blower in it?  It just gives a tighter seal for the top vent and a different way of controlling the top air flow.
I don't have one but I can see that it would automatically control air flow through the entire kettle.
The seal would be only so the device is sealed so that no air leaks by. That way the device's butterfly has complete air flow control.
The bottom vent(s) would have to be at least partially open.
The temperature-sensitive bi-metal spring opens and closes air flow through the top vent according to your settings.

It's a concept that has been used on woodstoves for years and should work well once you get your settings dialed in.
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Troy

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 07:51:53 AM »
my biggest complaint is the dial setting is numeric and not a direct temperature setting.

however, i got mine years ago before the guy was selling them and the product may have changed.
He did inform me that there were changes being made (but from the pics, they look the same)

I'll see if I can make some video this week.

Johnpv

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Re: Inexpensive temp controller ??
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2014, 02:09:09 PM »
Interesting, makes me feel iffy about it.   A bi-metal spring doesn't sound like a great way to control the temp.  Bi-metal thermometers are REALLY slow, and can be grossly inaccurate, up to 50 degrees or more.  I'm not trying to put the product down or anything, just trying to get a full grasp on it.