Agreed on that. But why would anyone who has a weber kettle want a traeger? The grill and BBQ store I used to frequent always was trying to get me to buy a traeger he even done Saturday cooks on them and I thought the food was okay but I like my charcoal ways better. And not mention have the fun is opening and closing vents as needed for heat control. I know that I don't need to sit on the couch and do nothing. I like to eat to much to do that. No setting it and forgetting it for me.