I'm talking about the OTP lids with the vent in the top center of the lid; if I mount the bale, I can lift/slide the lid back, but the handle in the front doesn't give me many other options. I'm going to go to Lowes in a of couple days to study the OTP again. Due to the placement of the brackets and the holes for the bale, I'll be purchasing Performer bowl and OTP lids.....that is unless I can pick up a couple of Performers on CL for the cheap. CL is always feast or famine; Performers are either dirt cheap or $200+.