Can someone tell me what this Redhead needs?

Started by captjoe06, October 13, 2016, 05:20:46 AM

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captjoe06

I believe it to be a 1992. The seller says it doesn't have a handle and there are no ash sweeps. I can't figure out why there's no hole where you would put an ash sweep assembly through.
It obviously needs an ash pan as well.  And handles.  But do you guys think the hole where they ash sweeper us rusted tight?


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Neil_VT00

Looks like the sweeps and the handle broke off the center mounting hardware.  With some careful dremel and/or hack saw work you can get that center piece out of there and install a new one touch system.
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Neil_VT00

Looks like you can see the thumb screw from the old OTS system here:
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captjoe06

Quote from: Neil_VT00 on October 13, 2016, 05:28:53 AM
Looks like the sweeps and the handle broke off the center mounting hardware.  With some careful dremel and/or hack saw work you can get that center piece out of there and install a new one touch system.

On a difficulty scale for a complete dope from 1-10 how difficult would you say this is?
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Mr.CPHo

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@captjoe06, not terribly difficult, I'd say a 3 or 4 on a scale of 1-10.  It looks more daunting than it really is.  I can say from personal experience I lived with a rusted ash sweeper for awhile, and after removing it this past weekend, I'm kicking myself for not attempting it earlier.  EDIT:  Full disclosure - I am not a handy person and even I could do it.  Dremel was super handy.

Is this the one you posted yesterday in Cambridge?  Glad you got it! 


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Neil_VT00

I'd probably put it somewhere in the 5 range.  Requires the use of power tools and a steady hand.  There is the potential for destroying porcelain if you slip.  Based on those pictures of the kettle, if the price is right it'd be a good learning experience.

Here are a couple examples from the technical reference library:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/a-little-redhead-mod/
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/don't-throw-away-that-old-weber!/
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captjoe06

Quote from: Mr.CPHo on October 13, 2016, 05:39:12 AM
@captjoe06, not terribly difficult, I'd say a 3 or 4 on a scale of 1-10.  It looks more daunting than it really is.  I can say from personal experience I lived with a rusted ash sweeper for awhile, and after removing it this past weekend, I'm kicking myself for not attempting it earlier. 

Is this the one you posted yesterday in Cambridge?  Glad you got it! 


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I was shocked it was still listed this morning so i took a shot and asked if she would take a full payment on paypal.  She did.  Now I just need a day off to go get it.
Thanks. 
I'll do a search for a thread where someone has removed a rusted ash sweep.

Do the H style ash sweeps work with the older style or will i need a different one?
Weber 7444 22-1/2-Inch One-Touch Cleaning System Kit for Grills

Ash Pan-$12.99
Weber 7407 22.5-Inch Replacement Ash Catcher

On weber's site they say the triangles are not available.  I find that hard to believe.
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captjoe06

Is it really possible you can't buy a new set of legs?

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crowderjd

@captjoe06 you can get the parts from Weber...you just need to know the part number.  The website below should help:

http://help.weber.com/schematics/browse.aspx?all=1&model=741001
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Mr.CPHo

@captjoe06, my suggestion would be to buy a cheap "donor" grill off CL for <$20 and take whatever parts you need from it.  Much cheaper (and less frustrating) than buying new from Weber.  This is the route I am going from now on.
Again, congrats on your soon-to-be acquisition!


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Neil_VT00

Why do you need new legs/triangle? The ones on there look like they will be fine for restoration.

Quote from: captjoe06 on October 13, 2016, 06:12:14 AM
Is it really possible you can't buy a new set of legs?
Wanted: Burgundy 18"

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An angle grinder with a cut-off wheel, plus a steady hand ....




Convert it to a Gold.  That's what I did with a 1990 redhead.  Now it's my dedicated KP-only kettle.
It's fun bringing a redhead back to life.   :D :D
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captjoe06

Quote from: Mr.CPHo on October 13, 2016, 06:20:25 AM
@captjoe06, my suggestion would be to buy a cheap "donor" grill off CL for <$20 and take whatever parts you need from it.  Much cheaper (and less frustrating) than buying new from Weber.  This is the route I am going from now on.
Again, congrats on your soon-to-be acquisition!


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I'll probably go this route.
Anxious to get my mitts on her.
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jeffrackmo

It actually took me less than 15 minutes to install the ash sweep.  I also purchased the ash catcher assembly.  That took a bit more due to the age of the bowl.  The new ash catcher will need a little encouragement to install.  On my EE code performer, I had to fab it up.  The tabs on the ring didnt alight with the leg sockets correclty.  The Ring is "supposed to" just snap in.  That was not the case.  I snapped offf the small tabs, predrilled some holes in the supports.  I used some heavy duty painters tape to position the Ring.  I marked the leg supports.  Then, slowly with a carbide drill bit, i drilled into the leg supports.  dobbed a little black enamel paint in the holes.  Fasted the ring to the supports with self tapping Stainless Steel screws.

Sounds like an orderal.. Just drill SLOWLY and you should be fine.

I get to do this again to the SSP Red Head (Lucille) I just picked up last weekend.

Good luck and take your time!! 

RRR

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