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Started by DynaGlide, March 15, 2018, 04:25:15 AM

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CharliefromLI

Ok guys, for someone is not super handy, how technical is the manifold drill out?


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Quote from: CharliefromLI on April 01, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
Ok guys, for someone is not super handy, how technical is the manifold drill out?


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Super Mega easy . I didn't even remove it fully , just removed the clip and hand rolled the drill bit .


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GoAnywhereJeep

Quote from: CharliefromLI on April 01, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
Ok guys, for someone is not super handy, how technical is the manifold drill out?


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You could totally poke your eye out with that tiny drill bit.  ;)
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Josh G

Quote from: GoAnywhereJeep on April 01, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
Quote from: CharliefromLI on April 01, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
Ok guys, for someone is not super handy, how technical is the manifold drill out?


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You could totally poke your eye out with that tiny drill bit.  ;)

I was shocked when the drill bit showed up.  It is really tiny. I saw it and thought how is it that going to make any difference.  Looking forward to giving it a try.

GoAnywhereJeep

Quote from: Josh G on April 02, 2018, 09:05:35 AM
I was shocked when the drill bit showed up.  It is really tiny. I saw it and thought how is it that going to make any difference.  Looking forward to giving it a try.

It doesn't take much to make this change. Not much metal was shaved off. It is not much different from rejetting a carburetor if you have ever done that.
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dwnthehatch

Thanks for the info. I bet the eBay seller is wondering why all the sudden interest in the bits.  I drilled mine out but it still doesn't reach the upper charcoal grate position. Maybe my tank is low. I'll check again when it's not raining.

GoAnywhereJeep

I have used the modified gas assist a few times now with the charcoal grate in the upper position and that minimal amount of flame height was enough to really make a difference in how the charcoal lights. Very pleased with the result. Weber should rejet these from the factory. It is such a small change but very effective.
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GoAnywhereJeep

Anyone else having grease and humidity leaking out through the gas assist and plugging the gas assist? I am getting this with pretty much every low and slow indirect cook whether i use a water pan or not. In this pic, there was no water in the cooker but I had two weber foil pans sitting on top of the diffuser plate. The leak occurred anyway.

The gas jet seemed to get plugged a lot more easily before I drilled it out - like every time. Now, i can run it a few times before the jet plugs up.







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SixZeroFour

@GoAnywhereJeep There could be a couple things contributing here...

#1) I have it on good authority that the whistle sound that you hear when you first fire up the grill is due to a temporary vacuum being created within the cooker by the gas-assist flame. When this happens it can pull a small amount of grease etc back down the tube which will cause the orifice to gum up a bit, however it shouldn't be happening anywhere near as often as every few cooks...

#2) What I suspect could be going on is that your ATC is creating positive pressure within the cooker and that pressure is causing additional moisture/grease to be forced back up the pipe.

This makes me wonder if this might be the reason the ATC port feature is never mentioned in any marketing for the Summit. Had always wondered why it was there but never "officially" talked about or promoted. ? Just a guess...
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SixZeroFour

Have you tried removing and cleaning out the tube completely? Maybe it just got a bunch of moisture in there and it keeps leaching out?
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GoAnywhereJeep

Quote from: SixZeroFour on April 16, 2018, 01:10:20 PM
@GoAnywhereJeep There could be a couple things contributing here...

#1) I have it on good authority that the whistle sound that you hear when you first fire up the grill is due to a temporary vacuum being created within the cooker by the gas-assist flame. When this happens it can pull a small amount of grease etc back down the tube which will cause the orifice to gum up a bit, however it shouldn't be happening anywhere near as often as every few cooks...

#2) What I suspect could be going on is that your ATC is creating positive pressure within the cooker and that pressure is causing additional moisture/grease to be forced back up the pipe.

This makes me wonder if this might be the reason the ATC port feature is never mentioned in any marketing for the Summit. Had always wondered why it was there but never "officially" talked about or promoted. ? Just a guess...

Have you tried removing and cleaning out the tube completely? Maybe it just got a bunch of moisture in there and it keeps leaching out?

1) It actually seems to happen well into the cook rather than when it is fired off. I actually caught it in the act of leaking once. I saw the leak starting from where the lid meats the bowl toward the right rear of the bowl close to the hinge. It looked like it was condensation coming down from INSIDE the lid  - like from between the outer black shell and the aluminum inner liner. I cured it at the time (at least i thought i did) by tightening the very loose bolts that hold the top damper to the lid. I figured the humidity was working its way through the loose upper damper assembly and dripping down the inside.

I am no longer getting that whistle before it fires off since I drilled the jet out. It's probably still happening either way and it makes sense that there might be a slight vacuum through the tube at first.

2) You could be right on the ATC. I have been using it a LOT less and it was only on this recent cook that I used it because I had to leave the premises on several occasions during the cook. I feel that even just closing the lid too fast pushes junk back up the tube.

The tube is clean. I can see into it using a flash light and I have cleaned it out before.
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au4stree

I'm in a Facebook Summit group and posed this question over there....I got a lot of non-answers.  Do y'all use a temp controller?  Is so, which brand?  I generally don't want it because I don't think the Summit maintains temp, but I don't want to be up all night either. We do lots of overnight cooks and this will be my "crutch" .....


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JordanW

@au4stree  I use a basic Flame Boss 100 for my long cooks.

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Quote from: JordanW on April 18, 2018, 06:27:51 AM
@au4stree  I use a basic Flame Boss 100 for my long cooks.
On the fireboss, do you use the adapter?  It looks like a bowl that would fit over the port hole.


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Josh G

Maybe foil the gas assist tube on longer cooks.   Should not have to do this but if it keeps being problem might be worth it to wrap it. 

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