Yea and the flat ones like that are real good for Argentinian style cooking too but nobody ever does that style cooking here, you can't find asador style grills all over Craigslist , there aren't recipes for chimichurri sauce or cookbooks like Seven Fires available in the U.S! I love Webers grills but their management is something else. I guess we need to bypass them, maybe we could send the guys at Cajun Bandit these photos and let them make it.