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Title: Slow n sear
Post by: Avey segal on October 17, 2019, 03:24:16 PM
I don't want to spend $100 on a slow n Sear. what is a good alternative?
Thanks in advance for the smart weber in this app

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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: FuriousHobbit on October 18, 2019, 02:52:06 AM
They have a less expensive option too.

https://snsgrills.com/collections/slow-n-sear/products/sns-charcoal-basket

But I'd be inclined to just get the weber baskets if you're going that route.
Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: knagy88 on October 18, 2019, 03:01:13 AM
Quote from: Avey segal on October 17, 2019, 03:24:16 PM
I don't want to spend $100 on a slow n Sear. what is a good alternative?
Thanks in advance for the smart weber in this app

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Bank the coals.

Buy some steel sheet from Menards and cut with tin snips.

Use aluminum foil.

Here are examples I've used for both smoking and grilling. Never bought a slow and sear because I don't see the need.

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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: michaelmilitello on October 18, 2019, 11:08:57 AM
Look up "Marty Basket" under search topics.   It's basically two Weber baskets joined with stainless hardware.   Works grate.


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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: 56MPG on October 18, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
Here's the "Bigger Better Basket Case" link.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/index.php?topic=28842.0

Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: KevinInStL on October 18, 2019, 01:53:05 PM
Quote from: 56MPG on October 18, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
Here's the "Bigger Better Basket Case" link.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/index.php?topic=28842.0
Ahhh yess finally! I saw this thread and spent hours trying to find that. Bookmarked!

Also, lots of people use a couple firebricks, end to end standing on their long edge, and pushed to one side of the kettle. Functionally pretty much the same as a Slow n Sear.
Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: littlepigbarbeque on October 19, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
I have made a "marty" basket and a slow and sear.  I bought the slow n sear because it looked cool, not because I thought it would be better.  It is more convenient when cleaning out coals.  If you have unburned coal, it will stay in the basket and you can lift the while thing out in the slow n sear. 

In saying that there is no difference between how they work.  I sometimes find myself using other methods to light my fire as well.  Using the snake method is fun to do.  Also banking the coals...

Ultimately, you can cook 100 different ways on a kettle.  They really are the most versatile grill out there in my opinion.   Experiment and have fun with it.  If you decide to get the slow n sear, it is totally worth it but not necessarily the best.   I do love mine though...

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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: M635_Guy on October 22, 2019, 07:14:00 AM
The S&S is mainly about convenience/easy - there's nothing magic about it though honestly I've really liked mine. 
Title: Slow n sear
Post by: HoosierKettle on October 22, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Personally I don't think of charcoal baskets as a convenience unless you primarily like to bake. I frequently like to cook over charcoal. You know, actually grill something lol. That means I would be removing the gadget every time I would want to grill normal. That would be a pita.

I will maintain that their main usefulness would be protecting porcelain on collector type kettles imo.


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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: M635_Guy on October 22, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on October 22, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Personally I don't think of charcoal baskets as a convenience unless you primarily like to bake. I frequently like to cook over charcoal. You know, actually grill something lol. That means I would be removing the gadget every time I would want to grill normal. That would be a pita.

I will maintain that their main usefulness would be protecting porcelain on collector type kettles imo.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/153/k0WNDf.gif)  Variety is the spice of life.
So far in my short kettle journey, I've done a lot of indirect - wings, whole chicken, shoulders, etc. and the S&S and the cone gadgets have made all of that easier for me - no futzing with bricks/etc. to set it up how I want.  Mainly the direct for me has been searing.  All of it has been so successful the direct part hasn't really been missed much.

Net: the gadgets have been great.  I'm fairly twitchy about fiddly things, and the only thing that is ringing my bells are the bolts for the side-mounted top-holder intruding into the gooking area and making it (a little) hard to get the grates on and off.  I haven't gotten to burgers yet somehow, but that will be my first real direct-cook.

Other than burgers/dogs, what are the best thing to direct-cook/grill for you?
Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: kettlebb on October 22, 2019, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on October 22, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Personally I don't think of charcoal baskets as a convenience unless you primarily like to bake. I frequently like to cook over charcoal. You know, actually grill something lol. That means I would be removing the gadget every time I would want to grill normal. That would be a pita.

I will maintain that their main usefulness would be protecting porcelain on collector type kettles imo.


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Multiple grills makes this easy. I'd say 50-60 percent of my cooking is two zone but I do a fair amount of grilling too. My kids are young still and don't always eat what we eat so it's mostly my wife and I. When I grill, it's almost always the CGA unless it can't handle the capacity, then I grill on the 22.


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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: HoosierKettle on October 22, 2019, 05:42:24 PM

Quote from: kettlebb on October 22, 2019, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on October 22, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Personally I don't think of charcoal baskets as a convenience unless you primarily like to bake. I frequently like to cook over charcoal. You know, actually grill something lol. That means I would be removing the gadget every time I would want to grill normal. That would be a pita.

I will maintain that their main usefulness would be protecting porcelain on collector type kettles imo.


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Multiple grills makes this easy. I'd say 50-60 percent of my cooking is two zone but I do a fair amount of grilling too. My kids are young still and don't always eat what we eat so it's mostly my wife and I. When I grill, it's almost always the CGA unless it can't handle the capacity, then I grill on the 22.


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A lot of my cooking is two zone as well. But more of an even 2 zone without baskets of any kind.

The cga rocks!  A wonderful little grill


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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: JEBIV on October 23, 2019, 04:29:42 AM
or break out the ranch and you can't count all the zones you can create. I enjoyed cooking on the CGA while on vacation, direct, 2 zone and a somewhat slow smoke, it was capable of all 3 and a blast to use
Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: knagy88 on October 23, 2019, 06:06:47 PM
I mean, you can make a 2 zone easy on a 22 with no gadgets. If you are grilling direct, and plan on grilling the whole time, not just searing, then the recommended single layer of coals at the charcoal grate does just fine. For steaks, chicken, pork etc. If it's not done but you don't want indirect, move to the other half. It's literally that simple.
Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: HoosierKettle on October 23, 2019, 06:29:25 PM

Quote from: knagy88 on October 23, 2019, 06:06:47 PM
I mean, you can make a 2 zone easy on a 22 with no gadgets. If you are grilling direct, and plan on grilling the whole time, not just searing, then the recommended single layer of coals at the charcoal grate does just fine. For steaks, chicken, pork etc. If it's not done but you don't want indirect, move to the other half. It's literally that simple.

Exactly.


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Title: Re: Slow n sear
Post by: M635_Guy on October 24, 2019, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: knagy88 on October 23, 2019, 06:06:47 PM
I mean, you can make a 2 zone easy on a 22 with no gadgets. If you are grilling direct, and plan on grilling the whole time, not just searing, then the recommended single layer of coals at the charcoal grate does just fine. For steaks, chicken, pork etc. If it's not done but you don't want indirect, move to the other half. It's literally that simple.

True enough.  I've liked re-using the coals that I don't need, and the basket (SnS or the factory) allows me to shake out the ashes so they burn like they should on re-use.

Again - I'm not arguing that they "perfected" the kettle (that tagline bugs me to be honest), but that and the $17 volcano gadget have made things super-easy (I find I can fit more wings in with the volcano than the SnS).  Simplicity and convenience is all they really offer, and it's up to each of us to decide whether that's worth it.  As a noob who has a thousand other things on my mind, it's improved my experience and results.