thanks for the replies, unfortunately for me its a no no, sent a message and the reply basically said they want a lot more via auction and are prepared to wait till next summer if they do not get enough.
considering the ad say's they were given it, they just seem like greedy buggers.
oh well, i'll keep looking.
it really is a disease this weberitus, i mean, half seven on a sunday morning looking at kettle's.
thanks all.
ray.