Don't know if you've already searched; here are two threads asking essentially the same question. Overall they might be kinda neat if you want a patio table light?http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/weber-lunette-lights/msg28165/#msg28165http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/trading-post/weber-lunette-lights-8356/msg82929/#msg82929