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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 02:06:34 PM

Title: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 02:06:34 PM
So with all the recent discussions about how dull the new '14 Crimson Red and Copper looks, I wanted to see it for myself. I called around and 2 stores had them on display so I took my '90s 2-tone Red MT lid with me to do a side by side comparison. Mind you these pictures are taken under store fluorescent lighting and with an iPhone 5S. These new colors are definitely dull and doesn't have the polish look as the current stock of green, black, and '90s 2-tone red. See for yourselves. Notice how the fluorescent lighting reflections are not as defined and clear on the Crimson Red and Copper, but are very clear on the black, green, and 90s 2-tone red.  It was very noticeable in person and may not be well presented in these pictures.  When compared to the brick red Genesis, I personally like the finish of the brick red more.

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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: 1buckie on February 21, 2014, 02:18:07 PM


Thanks for that !!!!

One thing that looks real interesting is how tough the lid handle weld looks.....almost 'inset' into the bell......

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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Weber MD on February 21, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
That's not crimson, that's moron, I mean maroon.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: pbe gummi bear on February 21, 2014, 02:37:27 PM
Someone give crumbsnatcher a f'in medal for doing this. Outstanding work, mate!
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
The only question that remains is.....Will the crimson red change color when heated by hot coals?
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: MaxBobcat on February 21, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
Fantastic work crumbsnatcher!  That matte finish is really apparent when compared to the red and black.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Craig on February 21, 2014, 02:53:15 PM
Nice work, Crumbsnatcher!
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: salad on February 21, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
crumbsnatcher,did you get any sideways glances when you walked in there?

I know if I tried that around here, I'd have a few employees asking, "sir, can I help you?" which translates as "are you off your meds?".  Another thing that might happen is someone asking how much the shiny red kettle is. 
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Troy on February 21, 2014, 04:24:26 PM
snatcher, you are my hero.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: bthorn9435 on February 21, 2014, 04:26:02 PM
It's 2014 and Weber cannot produce the iconic color that we all desire...sad! I was all set for a Crimson Performer until I saw these pictures. That red lid by the Crimson says everything. Guess my first Performer will be Black.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 04:30:58 PM

Quote from: salad on February 21, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
crumbsnatcher,did you get any sideways glances when you walked in there?

I know if I tried that around here, I'd have a few employees asking, "sir, can I help you?" which translates as "are you off your meds?".  Another thing that might happen is someone asking how much the shiny red kettle is.

Salad...I called the store and had a pretty good conversation with one of the sales person before taking my lid in for that comparison.  The sales guy even said the finish was dull and not like previous years. When I asked if I could bring my red MT lid in for comparison he said that wouldn't be a problem at all. The store was pretty busy so no one bothered me or gave me any funny looks when I was snapping my pictures. 

It was good to finally see the crimson red.  I find it interesting that the inside porcelain is shiny as it has always been despite the outside finish being dull.


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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 04:36:13 PM
BTW, not sure if this is a national Ace hardware sale, but the Elliot's Ace in West Allis, WI has the 20% off sale on whatever you can fit into their brown paper bag. surprisingly this sale includes all Weber accessories. I bought a couple 22.5" premium covers and the SS flavorizor bars for my Spirit S-310 grill.


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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: G on February 21, 2014, 04:55:18 PM
Nice pick up crumbsnatcher...my Ace coupon specifically excluded Weber items. 
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 05:01:33 PM

Quote from: G on February 21, 2014, 04:55:18 PM
Nice pick up crumbsnatcher...my Ace coupon specifically excluded Weber items.

Stu...mine said the same thing, but the store clerks said Weber accessories are fine. 


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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: G on February 21, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
May have to give that a shot.  Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 21, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
Stu...each time they've had this sale, the store has always allowed Weber accessories to be discounted. Can't speak for other Ace HW stores, but the one in West Allis is cool about it.


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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: saxart on February 21, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
Great job Crumb!
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: ramsfan on February 21, 2014, 06:35:25 PM
Thank you Crumbsnatcher for finally settling this debate once and for all. I fear that this new finish that Weber has come up with will become the norm for all colors in the future in an effort to cheapen the product to save money. I hope I'm wrong? The "tell tale" sign here is that Weber came out with two colors in this new dull finish, not one.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: landgraftj on February 22, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
I saw the crimson in person today and I was really disappointed in how dull it looked. Glad I bought the copper instead. It almost looks like someone took a spray can and painted over a black kettle. Too bad, I was hoping it would look a bit better.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: 1buckie on February 23, 2014, 04:53:34 AM
Quote from: landgraftj on February 22, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
I saw the crimson in person today and I was really disappointed in how dull it looked. Glad I bought the copper instead. It almost looks like someone took a spray can and painted over a black kettle.  Too bad, I was hoping it would look a bit better.


   " It almost looks like someone took a spray can and painted over a black kettle."



                         Yeah.....I seen where somebody did that before........... :o 8)
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: landgraftj on February 23, 2014, 06:41:27 AM
I wonder who would do such a thing Ken ;)
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Mark Schnell on February 23, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
So is this crimson exactly the same as the old brick red that was sold through Ace. Because it sure does look like it,
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: crumbsnatcher on February 23, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
Brick red is darker and not as dull. See the picture with the genesis lid. The genesis lid is the brick red and the kettle is the crimson.


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Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Mark Schnell on February 23, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I think I like the brick red better then.
Title: Re: Crimson Red Comparison with 90s Red, '13 Brick Red, '14 Copper, '13 Green, and Black
Post by: Golly on February 23, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
grate work snatch
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