Title: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 09:07:54 AM
I just happened to stumble upon it while looking at the charcoal options from Kingsford. it's got positive reviews, aside from the temperature gauge being garbage, which is a common problem with grills as a rule. however, there are very few reviews, with this one being the most detailed...and it's not that detailed:
http://grillsexpert.com/best-kingsford-grills/kingsford-ogd2001901-kf-outdoor-charcoal-kettle-grill-review/
what's grabbed my eye:
- 22.5" porcelain coated kettle grill
- hinged lid
- ash catcher bucket
- 4 legs with tool tray and bottom self
what concerns me:
comment about porcelain coated steel being 'thin'.
however, the fact that it's bigger than the Jumbo Joe, has a ash catcher bucket and is $10 cheaper than the Jumbo Joe makes me want to try it out. it's got a lot of premium features for quarter the price of the Master Touch and Napoleon Pro Kettle.
https://www.homehardware.ca/en/kettle-series-525-sq-in-black-charcoal-barbecue/p/6420160
- note pricing is in CAD funds
http://grillsexpert.com/best-kingsford-grills/kingsford-ogd2001901-kf-outdoor-charcoal-kettle-grill-review/
what's grabbed my eye:
- 22.5" porcelain coated kettle grill
- hinged lid
- ash catcher bucket
- 4 legs with tool tray and bottom self
what concerns me:
comment about porcelain coated steel being 'thin'.
however, the fact that it's bigger than the Jumbo Joe, has a ash catcher bucket and is $10 cheaper than the Jumbo Joe makes me want to try it out. it's got a lot of premium features for quarter the price of the Master Touch and Napoleon Pro Kettle.
https://www.homehardware.ca/en/kettle-series-525-sq-in-black-charcoal-barbecue/p/6420160
- note pricing is in CAD funds
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 09:28:56 AM
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 09:28:56 AM
"thin" is probably the operative word. My guess is the other issue is "made in China", which is probably why the coating has been complained about.
If you can afford to, buy yourself one of the colored Webers. If you need to save some $, but a used Weber for now. It will still last you a very, very long time. If you are near the border, consider a min-vacation in the US & pick up a used one while you are here & take it back with you. My guess is you'll be better off in the long run.
The other day, as I was moving the ash sweeps back & fourth a boatload of times before taking the ashcan off to dump them out, I wondered if this was actually any easier than just cleaning the ashes out of the old ones with the daisy wheels. But, maybe it was more of a pain then I remember.
If you can afford to, buy yourself one of the colored Webers. If you need to save some $, but a used Weber for now. It will still last you a very, very long time. If you are near the border, consider a min-vacation in the US & pick up a used one while you are here & take it back with you. My guess is you'll be better off in the long run.
The other day, as I was moving the ash sweeps back & fourth a boatload of times before taking the ashcan off to dump them out, I wondered if this was actually any easier than just cleaning the ashes out of the old ones with the daisy wheels. But, maybe it was more of a pain then I remember.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: michaelmilitello on May 14, 2019, 09:35:21 AM
Post by: michaelmilitello on May 14, 2019, 09:35:21 AM
There are reviews for this on YouTube. What I saw is the ash catcher is poorly designed and ill fitting. The venting system was really leaky, so temp control is poor. It's your money, but you will not go wrong with a Weber. You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 10:30:49 AM
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 10:30:49 AM
your comments are more than enough to disuade me.
really, this is a good example for the rule of thumb, 'if it's too good to be true, it usually is'.
Jumbo Joe it is! :)
really, this is a good example for the rule of thumb, 'if it's too good to be true, it usually is'.
Jumbo Joe it is! :)
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: YardBurner on May 14, 2019, 10:49:09 AM
Post by: YardBurner on May 14, 2019, 10:49:09 AM
False economy.
A Weber will out live 10 of those things.
VERY thin metal.
Poor quality porcelain.
Leaky vents.
Crappy leg sockets.
If I recall correctly the legs are thin steel which will rust in no time.
Don't waste your money.
A Weber will out live 10 of those things.
VERY thin metal.
Poor quality porcelain.
Leaky vents.
Crappy leg sockets.
If I recall correctly the legs are thin steel which will rust in no time.
Don't waste your money.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: RRRanger99 on May 14, 2019, 11:01:44 AM
Post by: RRRanger99 on May 14, 2019, 11:01:44 AM
...And, this review video alone, is more than enough to further discourage (or deter) anyone in the WKC, or ANYBODY!, from ever purchasing the Kingsford 22.5"!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjQtn9GUIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjQtn9GUIY
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 14, 2019, 11:29:25 AM
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 14, 2019, 11:29:25 AM
Are you near any town or city? Why not get a used 22 Weber? There really isn't anything comparable in my opinion. Even new they are worth every penny given their proven track record for durability.
Get a Weber and get grilling.
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Get a Weber and get grilling.
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Darko on May 14, 2019, 04:08:43 PM
Post by: Darko on May 14, 2019, 04:08:43 PM
It's Kingsford. As is their charcoal... it's crap. Just buy a used weber grill.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Walchit on May 14, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
Post by: Walchit on May 14, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
Check Craigslist and garage sales, you can get a kettle for 5-20 bucks where I'm at. Then 30 for stainless ash sweeps and it will last a long time. Check to make sure the leg sockets are sturdy. I had one welded, but it cost me 20 bucks to get it done, and ive found good ones since then for cheap. You will have a back yard full of webers in no time
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 05:32:38 PM
Post by: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 05:32:38 PM
lets say I live somewhere remote enough that CL, Kijiji etc are non-starters. the population is too small for much of any used sales.
it's okay though, I'll get the Jumbo Joe as originally planned. :)
it's okay though, I'll get the Jumbo Joe as originally planned. :)
Title: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 14, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 14, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Marzipan on May 14, 2019, 05:32:38 PM
lets say I live somewhere remote enough that CL, Kijiji etc are non-starters. the population is too small for much of any used sales.
it's okay though, I'll get the Jumbo Joe as originally planned. :)
I had a feeling you were remote.
All the more reason to get something built to last.
You can't go wrong with a jumbo joe. I don't have one but I have friends that swear by them along with a lot of people on here.
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 05:46:08 PM
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 05:46:08 PM
I'm hoping to get one when, I think it is @brewtownbeatdown, gets rid of his blue one.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on May 14, 2019, 08:16:28 PM
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on May 14, 2019, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 05:46:08 PMWhen I get rid of...
I'm hoping to get one when, I think it is @brewtownbeatdown, gets rid of his blue one.
This one is in it's forever home:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/0916ad17c78cd0b3808471240cc3215d.jpg)
When I get rid of...still
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Rub on May 14, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
Post by: Rub on May 14, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
Those Kingsford grills suck. I was given 10 of them as part of a grant I wrote to teach my students how to grill. The grills didn't even last 1 school year.
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: YardBurner on May 14, 2019, 08:58:31 PM
Post by: YardBurner on May 14, 2019, 08:58:31 PM
Drop the Mike, Rob.
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Cellar2ful on May 14, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on May 14, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: Rub on May 14, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
Those Kingsford grills suck. I was given 10 of them as part of a grant I wrote to teach my students how to grill. The grills didn't even last 1 school year.
To quote Shakespeare, "'To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the Rub; For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause'.
Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: michaelmilitello on May 15, 2019, 04:49:32 AM
Post by: michaelmilitello on May 15, 2019, 04:49:32 AM
Quote from: Cellar2ful on May 14, 2019, 09:07:03 PMAll that glitters is not goldQuote from: Rub on May 14, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
Those Kingsford grills suck. I was given 10 of them as part of a grant I wrote to teach my students how to grill. The grills didn't even last 1 school year.
To quote Shakespeare, "'To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the Rub; For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause'.
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Firemunkee on May 15, 2019, 06:15:11 AM
Post by: Firemunkee on May 15, 2019, 06:15:11 AM
Quote from: brewtownbeatdown on May 14, 2019, 08:16:28 PMGood to see that one again! All shiny and enjoying it's new life with brewtownQuote from: PotsieWeber on May 14, 2019, 05:46:08 PMWhen I get rid of...
I'm hoping to get one when, I think it is @brewtownbeatdown, gets rid of his blue one.
This one is in it's forever home:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/0916ad17c78cd0b3808471240cc3215d.jpg)
When I get rid of...still
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Title: Re: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 15, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
Post by: PotsieWeber on May 15, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
I saw the black ones at Walmart the other day, even though I swear someone said that Weber wasn't making them anymore.
It is neat to see that blue one again.
It is neat to see that blue one again.
Title: may I ask a questoin about as non-Weber kettle grill - the Kingsford 22.5"?
Post by: Foundry37 on May 16, 2019, 11:55:05 AM
Post by: Foundry37 on May 16, 2019, 11:55:05 AM
In a fit of desperation I picked up one of the Kingsford grills from Ollie's. Cheap cheap cheaply made. Did 2 cooks before I found my first Weber on craigslist. It was 20 years old beat up and missing a wheel and it still performed better than the practically new Kingsford
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