Title: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 16, 2019, 04:06:56 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 16, 2019, 04:06:56 PM
First time I have seen a lid like this. There is a very slight raised area underneath the lid vent. It had to have been stamped during production at the factory. Anyone come across a kettle like this?
It's a Pat Pending 18" MBH with transitional wheels (plastic rims with rubber treads).
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/16/DSC07355.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/16/DSC07354.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/16/DSC07353.jpg)
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: LiquidOcelot on January 16, 2019, 04:45:04 PM
Post by: LiquidOcelot on January 16, 2019, 04:45:04 PM
Huh. That is weird. Wonder if they were trying something during the transitional phase ? Or maybe just a missprint
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: CatskillSmoker on January 16, 2019, 05:08:07 PM
Post by: CatskillSmoker on January 16, 2019, 05:08:07 PM
I'll take a look at mine Jim. I never noticed anything but you never know. Way cool and thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Darko on January 16, 2019, 05:22:55 PM
Post by: Darko on January 16, 2019, 05:22:55 PM
That's interesting.
Title: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: bladz on January 16, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
Post by: bladz on January 16, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
I seem to recall this was brought up quite a while ago. My 18" PP brave which has the same wheels as yours Jim, has it. I'll look at my 18" "C" red tomorrow and report back.
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: PotsieWeber on January 16, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
Post by: PotsieWeber on January 16, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
Maybe someone used the bowling ball technique on it.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: JEBIV on January 17, 2019, 03:45:38 AM
Post by: JEBIV on January 17, 2019, 03:45:38 AM
One of mine has that, can't remember which, I will look tonight
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: stubblebum on January 17, 2019, 04:31:14 AM
Post by: stubblebum on January 17, 2019, 04:31:14 AM
I don't really know offhand, but is the vent and the area directly underneath the vent normally flat or curved? Maybe this was just an attempt to make the vents seal better and/or easier. Matching two flat surfaces would seem to be easier than getting two curved surfaces to match. Even if that worked, someone may have decided the appearance or process to make flat area was not worth the improvement in function.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: dwnthehatch on January 17, 2019, 06:14:07 AM
Post by: dwnthehatch on January 17, 2019, 06:14:07 AM
My 18" redhead had it as well.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Troy on January 17, 2019, 06:57:38 AM
Post by: Troy on January 17, 2019, 06:57:38 AM
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 09:49:25 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: dwnthehatch on January 17, 2019, 06:14:07 AM
My 18" redhead had it as well.
If your talking about the one I got from you, that one doesn't have the raised area below the lid vent. It's a Pat # lid vent that has plastic wheels and plastic treads.
Here's the lid from that one.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/17/DSC07356.jpg)
Here is lid from another Pat Pending "Eastener" I have. This one has metal wheels with no thumbscrews so I believe it's a 1970. No raised area below the lid vent.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/17/DSC07357.jpg)
For comparison, here is the one with the raised area beneath the lid vent. I believe this one is a 1971 as it has plastic wheels with rubber treads.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2019/01/16/DSC07355.jpg)
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: LightningBoldtz on January 17, 2019, 10:20:39 AM
Post by: LightningBoldtz on January 17, 2019, 10:20:39 AM
Gotta be a prototype, you should put it on ebay and get top $$$ for it.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: vwengguy on January 17, 2019, 10:32:55 AM
Post by: vwengguy on January 17, 2019, 10:32:55 AM
Hey... I was thinking 
If they have a rivet machine set up for the vent on a 26" and another one for a 22" and so on...
think about mass production here... they would have a mount or frame that would hold the lid from underside to support it.. with that being said a 26" would be have a flatter support plate.
Now my idea is if a 22" lid is riveted on the 26" machine it might cause a flat dimple on a lid (like in the photo) that has a more pronounced curve to it.
This is my guess / idea that might cause this marking on the lids.
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If they have a rivet machine set up for the vent on a 26" and another one for a 22" and so on...
think about mass production here... they would have a mount or frame that would hold the lid from underside to support it.. with that being said a 26" would be have a flatter support plate.
Now my idea is if a 22" lid is riveted on the 26" machine it might cause a flat dimple on a lid (like in the photo) that has a more pronounced curve to it.
This is my guess / idea that might cause this marking on the lids.
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 10:58:24 AM
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 10:58:24 AM
I have a 18" Cado that has the same raised lip at the vent - I'll try to get a pic up later today - this is the only other ive seen like it 
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
You can see it a bit in these shots...
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/16/IMG_4370Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/16/IMG_4371Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/16/IMG_4370Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/16/IMG_4371Custom.jpg)
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 12:28:25 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 12:28:25 PM
@SixZeroFour - Pat Pending also and looks like it has rubber treads. Does it have plastic wheels or metal wheels? I wonder if your Mediterranean is the same year as my Eastener and Weber was experimenting that year with this style of lid?
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
Post by: SixZeroFour on January 17, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
Quote from: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 12:28:25 PM
@SixZeroFour - Pat Pending also and looks like it has rubber treads. Does it have plastic wheels or metal wheels? I wonder if your Mediterranean is the same year as my Eastener and Weber was experimenting that year with this style of lid?
It was in really rough shape when I got it and had no wheels/legs/triangle at all so those were chosen based on the best info available. Based on your grill I guessed right ;)
Title: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: bladz on January 17, 2019, 06:08:38 PM
Post by: bladz on January 17, 2019, 06:08:38 PM
Here is my Brave with the same flat spot. Pat pending, plastic wheels with rubber treads. My newer red didn't have the flat spot.
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 17, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: stubblebum on January 17, 2019, 04:31:14 AM
I don't really know offhand, but is the vent and the area directly underneath the vent normally flat or curved? Maybe this was just an attempt to make the vents seal better and/or easier. Matching two flat surfaces would seem to be easier than getting two curved surfaces to match. Even if that worked, someone may have decided the appearance or process to make flat area was not worth the improvement in function.
Probably spot on with that theory. I prefer the look of the lid without the raised area.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 18, 2019, 08:05:22 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 18, 2019, 08:05:22 AM
Unless someone can provide an example of a 22" having this raised area, it appears this was only on 1971 era Pat Pending 18's with plastic wheels and rubber treads. Probably as much information as were are going to get.
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on January 18, 2019, 11:48:23 AM
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on January 18, 2019, 11:48:23 AM
Cool & interesting. Now I'm gonna have to check my Pat. Pending kettles.
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Bertl on January 20, 2019, 03:00:38 PM
Post by: Bertl on January 20, 2019, 03:00:38 PM
My 18 Yachts 78 has the same mark. Not that extreme but can see...
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 23, 2019, 02:32:12 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on January 23, 2019, 02:32:12 PM
Ok, now that is strange. You would think there would be more of these out there if it was produced between 1971 and 1978. I have quite a few 18"ers from that time frame and only one has had this peculiar raised area beneath the lid vent. Why didn't all of them have it? Why just a few?
@MDurso - Curious as to your thoughts?
Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Kneab on January 23, 2019, 03:05:04 PM
Post by: Kneab on January 23, 2019, 03:05:04 PM
I am pretty sure that I have at least one with the raised area also. Unfortunately most of my kettles are in the shed and the doors are currently blocked by snow and ice.
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: bladz on May 17, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Post by: bladz on May 17, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Hey I found another grill with a raised area around the top vent. My H code flat top 26. Anyone else notice this on their 26"?
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Title: Re: "Eastener" with a strange lid
Post by: Troy on May 18, 2019, 11:50:43 AM
Post by: Troy on May 18, 2019, 11:50:43 AM
My guess is manufacturing error that wasn't bad enough to get pulled from the line
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