I will let you know in a little bit, Brian.
:-X
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Sitting in pieces in my car right now. Guy insisted on calling it a 'weber type'.
Looks to be the same vintage as the red I picked up last weekend. '71-'75
My question is - all black wheels were the norm? I was wondering if mine just faded or got scrubbed off.
Nice score on the greenie.
Great score....whats the story behind the score?
THose look like old school metal wheels which could make it late 60s.
Nice!!!! 8) Can't wait to see more. Do I spy thumbscrews on this one?
@Bman: The early plastic wheels are prone to losing their whitewalls from fading. The metal whitewalls just orange from rust.
Some details that make me say it is 68 to 70:
No thumbscrews.
WEBER STEPHEN PRODUCTS CO
WEBER BAR B Q KETTLE
PAT PENDING
ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, IL
Small Vent tabs on the top and all bottom vents.
The wheels are BOTH whitewall originals with straight rubber tread. There was a 'repair' done at some point, and one of the wheels was put back on with the whitewall on the inside (which is why the wheel is all black in the picture. The current "hubcaps" are 30 year old finishing nails....
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A boring story:
At 9:55 AM, I clicked over to my craigslist weber search page and saw an add for a "weber type grill" ($30).
I opened the advertisement, saw a non black rolled handle grill, and dialed the number at 9:56 (This is how I know the timeline, my call history on my phone). I told the guy he was on the other side of town from me, but give me the address and I will plug it in to the phone and go, and to expect me within 45 minutes. At 9:57 I was on the road for the 32 mile trek. (64 miles round trip.......)
I got there alittle after 10:30 due to a route primarily on the Interstate and an anxious driver.
So a man that I will place at 60 years old (plus or minus 5 years) greeted me and showed me the weber style grill. He said, "You are one of the charcoal people huh?".
He proceeded to try and sell me on the grill saying it was hardly used and worked well. He said it was probably used less than 50 times, and that personally had a newer kind for a while but with his you could move the charcoal grate up with handles(umm ok?). Anyway, It turns out his father passed away this week, and he was just clearing out items. Unfortunately, he did not know where his dad got it or when, but I got the impression the son had never seen it.
Ironically, it looked like he had one of those new STOK grills that we were talking about in the other thread, with the cast iron grates. If I were smarter I would have tried to grab that for a deal for the grate, but he wanted 75 for the Stok according to craiglsist.
In any case, the inside is in good shape, the charcoal grate is fine, I may or may not try to rescue the grill grate. Based on the inside, you would say this grill was in fact "rarely used".
But.
There is always a but. It is 45 years old at this point. If the grill was used 50 times, the lid was dropped 49 times. There are several LARGE chipped spots that have rusted. What is worse, someone tried to paint over them with primer at some point and it has created a mess on the rust spots, as well as speckled drops of primer/paint all over the lid. >:( The handle has the typical rusting where it joins the lid and the paint has been long gone. The bowl is in great shape. I do not think there are any chips on the bowl, just one dent that I do not mind at all.
In any case, I drove 32 miles (64 round trip) and I was not leaving empty handed, even if this was more "rough" than "diamond". In my very tough nosed negotiating style, I said: I am leaving with the grill regardless, but will you take $20? He said $25 and I loaded it in my car. I was back home, lighter by almost 4 gallons of gas and 25 dollars, and late for a meeting I was supposed to call in to at 11 AM.....
The rest of the story:
The first thing I did (after dialing in to the meeting I was late for) was to fire up WKC and post this thread. I looked at my PMs and noticed a fellow WKCer had sent me an request to be his pick up agent for this grill. Unfortunately, his PM was sent at 9:59:55.
QuoteUnfortunately, his PM was sent at 9:59:55.
LMAO. Missed it by
that much!
Ugh. This is a lot of lid chipping.
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And a custom speckle finish.
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And a bowl in terrific shape. Go figure.
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"You are one of the charcoal people huh?".
We need a WTC bumper sticker: "I am one of the charcoal people."
And I couldn't have been happier when he said no to being my agent.......cuz he had just picked it up for himself! And I know if he didn't want it, he woulda chased it for me. And he knows the same applies for him up here in my neck o' the woods. Cuz that's how us charcoal people roll!
Heck yeah Kris.
By the way, I am thinking of hitting Laughlin in SEP, or an outside shot at Holbrook in in JUL. Haven't been out there since Scottsdale last May.
What is next for you?
Williams next W/E, then Holbrook next month. Haven't looked much further than that yet. Hope to see you at one sometime.
Bowl cleaned up, spotless. Lid is pretty smoke gunked with smoke and taking more time.
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G$, what are you using to remove the smoke gunk? I used a combination of 0000 steel wool, greased lightning cleaner/degreaser and a big bucket of elbow grease to clean mine...
That's a great find, G, and a great story. After reading it, I am proud to count myself as one of the charcoal people.
Quote from: bryanw21157 on June 07, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
G$, what are you using to remove the smoke gunk? I used a combination of 0000 steel wool, greased lightning cleaner/degreaser and a big bucket of elbow grease to clean mine...
Oven cleaner and a plastic scraper. Finished off with a 'magic eraser'.
I have found that steel wool is not stout enough for the thick gunk on the inside of lids and bowls of old kettles. One dose of oven cleaner and minor scraping cleaned the bowl. Not much elbow grease needed.
On the other hand, the lid is going to take two doses of oven cleaner it looks like. And plenty of elbow grease.
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There's the two rivet handle! Of course, I forgot to put the screw cover things in before taking pictures....
Heck, why not continue the trend and forget to put the ash catcher on too!
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This is the original grill grate (and charcoal grate). Honest to god I scrubbed and scrubbed this thing. I just can not get it cleaner.
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It is cleaner than it looks, but unless I can get it cleaner, I probably will not cook on it. I will probably give it one more try at the vinegar and soda bath.
Here it is with the twist pan after I brought it in. Not as nice of a photo.
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Looks Great!!! Nice white walls too. Those the original metal wheels cleaned up or did you refurb and paint? Doesn't matter, as that is awesome. Use the Duke method on the grate or Brians potion he used on his rusty wheels. Hank,(?) I believe throws grates in a Bonfire to clean them up.
Greg, all i did to clean the wheels was spray WD-40 on them and wipe them off with a paper towel. They are immaculate. So easy! I am not exagerating to say i spent one minute on them.
I wish i could say the same for the grill grate and ash catcher. I cleaned and polished the ash catcher a lot. It IS nice and clean now, but i did something to the finish and it is a bit uneven now. I am fine with it, as the catcher is mostly clean and mostly shiny at least....
The legs shined up well enough, and although dinged up, the lid and bowl cleaned up well. The triangle looks pretty darn good for a 45 year old piece of equipment. Originally, I planned to throw new legs and a new triangle on, but just felt they would look out of place, and since so much of this grill is original, I decided to keep them and I am glad I did.
But that dang cooking grate has beaten me. And it is soooo thick and nice, I really want to get it sparkling.
That's extra nice !!!
The bowl looks really sharp, almost NEW & the lid is not far behind, only a few battle scars....
The color looks really great, nice cleanup !!
Are there ANY chips in the bowl?
Quote from: G$ on June 13, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Greg, all i did to clean the wheels was spray WD-40 on them and wipe them off with a paper towel. They are immaculate. So easy! I am not exagerating to say i spent one minute on them.
I wish i could say the same for the grill grate and ash catcher. I cleaned and polished the ash catcher a lot. It IS nice and clean now, but i did something to the finish and it is a bit uneven now. I am fine with it, as the catcher is mostly clean and mostly shiny at least....
The legs shined up well enough, and although dinged up, the lid and bowl cleaned up well. The triangle looks pretty darn good for a 45 year old piece of equipment. Originally, I planned to throw new legs and a new triangle on, but just felt they would look out of place, and since so much of this grill is original, I decided to keep them and I am glad I did.
But that dang cooking great has beaten me. And it is soooo thick and nice, I really want to get it sparkling.
I have learned from Shaun, that is the old style grate and they are Awesome(Heavy Duty). Did you try my method on the pan? Yes, HCL is harmful, but gloves and an SOS pad does wonders to a pan. Glad your staying original, I do with mine.
Buckie, I found two small chips in the bowl unfortunately. They are of a relatively new vintage, and smaller than tic tac sized. Nothing like the true scars located at several spots on the lid.
I really wish this Mediterranean were in better shape, but when I see something like this I can not pass it up. I am not pretending to have a pristine condition specimen, but I know we all appreciate it as if it were !
Yeah Greg, I use HCL and SOS on the pans as well. Followed that up with Mothers. It looks pretty nice, just a bit uneven. I will snap a pan photo tomorrow when the photographer is awake - it looks a little better in person than in that iPhone pic.
G$, that 'Cado Caribbean looks happy happy happy from its bath and new handle. I love the dark wood against the avocado color. I'm having the same grate dilemma on my Warrior.
Quote from: G$ on June 13, 2013, 09:55:07 PM
Buckie, I found two small chips in the bowl unfortunately. They are of a relatively new vintage, and smaller than tic tac sized. Nothing like the true scars located at several spots on the lid.
I really wish this Mediterranean were in better shape, but when I see something like this I can not pass it up. I am not pretending to have a pristine condition specimen, but I know we all appreciate it as if it were !
But generally the thing looks great, really great !!!
I somehow just wish porcelain wouldn't chip.....am I alone in this pipe dream?
PS: thanks for the handle shots, gives me some idea what to do w/ the Sequoia....dark, but not too dark..... 8)
Quote from: Craig on June 14, 2013, 05:29:34 AM
G$, that 'Cado Caribbean looks happy happy happy from its bath and new handle. I love the dark wood against the avocado color. I'm having the same grate dilemma on my Warrior.
I must have gotten med and carib mixed up. I thought the med was the 22 and now I can't find that catalog.
Typically, I actually prefer lightly stained oak with most colors, but I absolutely love the dark walnut with the avacado color. It goes together perfectly. Many thanks to Brian of course.
Quote from: G$ on June 14, 2013, 07:05:39 AM
Quote from: Craig on June 14, 2013, 05:29:34 AM
G$, that 'Cado Caribbean looks happy happy happy from its bath and new handle. I love the dark wood against the avocado color. I'm having the same grate dilemma on my Warrior.
I must have gotten med and carib mixed up. I thought the med was the 22 and now I can't find that catalog.
Typically, I actually prefer lightly stained oak with most colors, but I absolutely love the dark walnut with the avacado color. It goes together perfectly. Many thanks to Brian of course.
Truth-be-told, I had to reference the '73 catalog on my computer before my response to be sure that the 22 is the Caribbean. ;D
I always like the dark walnut on the old kettles, it's original....looks perfect....
Hey G$, what kind of hubcaps are those on your wheels? They appear smaller than the normal metal ones I've seen (at least to my eyes)
Craig, I went to Ace to get 3/8" push caps while I was out running errands. They looked like the originals I have seen. Well, when I went to put them on, they were too small, more like 1/4". They must have been in the wrong bin at Ace. That was annoying.
So then... I went to a different Ace closer to home and that one did not have what I will call the original style. They had a thinner less substantial looking version which is what I bought and put on. I still like them more than plastic caps but I agree they may be a little small.
These smaller ones are shaped like a boaters hat and have just two small tabs that keep them clipped to the axle rather than a star sort of pattern I am used to on both the plastic caps as well as the original metal ones.
Sorry for the long reply....
They still look great! I think I've seen some of those on some of the other restores on here. Yeah the Ace bins can get mixed up sometimes.
Whats really annoying is that black 3/8 plastic caps are non existent short of going through Weber.... ::) Plenty of white ones though...
Quote from: Craig on June 14, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
They still look great! I think I've seen some of those on some of the other restores on here. Yeah the Ace bins can get mixed up sometimes.
Whats really annoying is that black 3/8 plastic caps are non existent short of going through Weber.... ::) Plenty of white ones though...
I think the ace by me had white, black and red in the plastic caps! Not the right metal ones though.
Ive lucked out on the vintage metal ones. The one by me usually has them, the only black ones my Ace's have are the bigger or smaller size...
Quote from: Craig on June 14, 2013, 09:27:37 PM
Ive lucked out on the vintage metal ones. The one by me usually has them, the only black ones my Ace's have are the bigger or smaller size...
This is absolutely a Weber conspiricy.....white, red...no problem....black...forget it.... >:(
Quote from: G$ on June 14, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Craig, I went to Ace to get 3/8" push caps while I was out running errands. They looked like the originals I have seen. Well, when I went to put them on, they were too small, more like 1/4". They must have been in the wrong bin at Ace. That was annoying.
So then... I went to a different Ace closer to home and that one did not have what I will call the original style. They had a thinner less substantial looking version which is what I bought and put on. I still like them more than plastic caps but I agree they may be a little small.
These smaller ones are shaped like a boaters hat and have just two small tabs that keep them clipped to the axle rather than a star sort of pattern I am used to on both the plastic caps as well as the original metal ones.
Sorry for the long reply....
Sorry for the long reply....
It's OK.....Sunday, I turn 23 years sober.....early August, 58 years old & I futz & tweek over these damn hubcaps ALL THE TIME !!!!!