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Title: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: glrasmussen on May 20, 2013, 05:54:38 PM
I have a pair used on standby form a great WKC member that is willing to help me.
The Front would function on this old boy. Any help for a modification to make the back side work?

Cleaned up front side.
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/glrasmussen/null_zps82068c16.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/glrasmussen/media/null_zps82068c16.jpg.html)

The bad.. the back side... :(
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/glrasmussen/null_zps07514254.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/glrasmussen/media/null_zps07514254.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Duke on May 20, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Big washers with a 3/8 hole in back. You could use some JB Weld and paint the back. Then put a spacer between the leg and back of the wheel. I think that's where all of the damage will happen is when you move it and the JB probably won't hold up to that through the years. You can cut your own by getting some aluminum tube and just cut it to length where it stays snug.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: 1buckie on May 20, 2013, 06:04:38 PM



I started looking, but then was asking what size?

I think Harris (or someone else?) put up some links for old style wheels.......

We probably won't find "Wood Dale" wheels, but a correctly sized & close match may be out there in the tricycle / wagon wheel /  garden wagon replica area........

Another method MIGHT be to JB Weld a plate & tube for the axle to fit in to that back side, but there's so much rust, it would be an iffy idea at best......
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: glrasmussen on May 20, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
I just don't understand how the front held up so well and the back didn't. I did not do any cleaning to the back, only the front. I was wondering if I sand it, get a washer big enough to cover the hole. Make the contour the same, using a ball pean hammer? JB weld and see? Or I can just order from a volunteering WKC member with an extra set. The price offered to me won't break the bank.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: DoppelBock on May 20, 2013, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: 1buckie on May 20, 2013, 06:04:38 PM



I started looking, but then was asking what size?

I think Harris (or someone else?) put up some links for old style wheels.......

We probably won't find "Wood Dale" wheels, but a correctly sized & close match may be out there in the tricycle / wagon wheel /  garden wagon replica area........

Another method MIGHT be to JB Weld a plate & tube for the axle to fit in to that back side, but there's so much rust, it would be an iffy idea at best......

I'd have to agree with Ken, that rust on the backside is pretty much all that is left of the wheel there. I'd stick the standard stck Weber wheels on for now and keep looking for some original looking wheels.
I just can't see a rehab for those wheels.

Keep a look out for the vintage kids wagons, those might be the answer. The Cambridge Antique show comes up in August, they usually have a great deal of old wagons and tricycles with metal rimmed wheels.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: pbe gummi bear on May 20, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
I would look for a small stainless steel condiment tray or saucer and jb weld it to the hole. Then drill the center hole. Try to take care of the rust as best as possible so it lasts longer.

like this guy:

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/part_ESP8XL211_med.gif)

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/saucer-stainless-steel-p-630567.html
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Duke on May 20, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
That's a great idea Gummi! I would still suggest the spacer to keep it snug though.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: dazzo on May 20, 2013, 07:57:16 PM

Just a thought, but as a quick replacement, how about training wheels?

Maybe not so much from a Princess bike.  ;)

But my granddaughter's bike has some nice 5" chrome wheels.

Might work until proper replacements can be had?

-Rick
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: pbe gummi bear on May 21, 2013, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: dazzo on May 20, 2013, 07:57:16 PM

Just a thought, but as a quick replacement, how about training wheels?

Maybe not so much from a Princess bike.  ;)

But my granddaughter's bike has some nice 5" chrome wheels.

Might work until proper replacements can be had?

-Rick

Training wheels is also a great idea!
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Heyjude on May 21, 2013, 12:04:37 PM
Any rehab is only temporary at best. That rust is just some of the worst i have ever seen.
So, replcament wheels are the best choice.
If you have or want to keep the genuine wheels, I suggest the following.
Stabilize the rust. To do that, you need to use a rust neutralizer on it.  It amy just cause it to disentegrate.
Then, you need to try to build a foundation of some sortt to support the axle. Dukes idea of a sleeve and washers will work. JB weld will help hold it all together. After that, you might be able to fill it in and then paint it.
It looks like a hopeless cause to me.
Personally, I don't like covering a turd with paint and cal it restored. No offense to anyone who fills
or uses paint to try ot match the original. In this case, I just don;t see enough (If any) good material to work with.
I wish you luck.
If anyone can make it work, its the Duke.
8)
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 12:54:08 PM
Hey Greg, don't forget to look for old golf carts. Remember these?  I found them on an old cart at a garage sale.  They are identical, just painted differently.

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/A_Tame76/001_zps32aaaba5.jpg)

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/A_Tame76/Vintage%20wheels/014_zpsa5a95806.jpg)

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/A_Tame76/Vintage%20wheels/018_zps1d0dbd59.jpg)
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 01:02:21 PM
So many threads now, but I do remember that. Thanks Jeff! Different CL search.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: DoppelBock on May 21, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
Jeff, those wheels would look fantastic on a copper kettle, what did you mount them on?
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
Youre not the first person to say that Chad.  They arent mounted on anything yet
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Are you waiting for that rainy day Wood Dale? You must have one...June?

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Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Duke on May 21, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
If I found that golf cart I would have slapped an 18.5 on it!  :)
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: pbe gummi bear on May 21, 2013, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Duke on May 21, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
If I found that golf cart I would have slapped an 18.5 on it!  :)

lol. You should do a poll next time you build a rat rod q.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Are you waiting for that rainy day Wood Dale? You must have one...June?

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Thats funny, rainy day Wooddale.  I don't see that happening anytime soon, but I do have something unique and different that I will be showing that day!  Maybe close to as good as a Wooddale!
Title: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Craig on May 21, 2013, 06:42:30 PM

Quote from: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Are you waiting for that rainy day Wood Dale? You must have one...June?

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Thats funny, rainy day Wooddale.  I don't see that happening anytime soon, but I do have something unique and different that I will be showing that day!  Maybe close to as good as a Wooddale!


A Weber Bros Metal Works?
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Duke on May 21, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Craig on May 21, 2013, 06:42:30 PM

Quote from: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Are you waiting for that rainy day Wood Dale? You must have one...June?

Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

Thats funny, rainy day Wooddale.  I don't see that happening anytime soon, but I do have something unique and different that I will be showing that day!  Maybe close to as good as a Wooddale!


A Weber Bros Metal Works?
Now that would be sweet!
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
Not a Weber Bros Metal Works...but something unique I bet nobody here has seen before...at least THIS particular variation of it.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: zavod44 on May 21, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
I was gonna write an article on restoring wheels, and I will, but here is a small taste I took a set of very rusty wheels


(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/DSC07769.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/zavod112/media/DSC07769.jpg.html)


(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/DSC07768.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/zavod112/media/DSC07768.jpg.html)



and soaked them in this stuff, it is the absolute best stuff for rust. 


(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/IMG_20121108_210319_966_zps865b9683.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/zavod112/media/IMG_20121108_210319_966_zps865b9683.jpg.html)



I just soaked them for two days and this is how they came out, I did nothing more than soak them....



(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/IMG_20121109_161621_073_zps8a554f22.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/zavod112/media/IMG_20121109_161621_073_zps8a554f22.jpg.html)


(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/IMG_20121109_161606_297_zps9fd816ac.jpg) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/zavod112/media/IMG_20121109_161606_297_zps9fd816ac.jpg.html)


I'll post the pics of the finished wheels tomorrow when I take pictures.....
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Craig on May 21, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
I'll have to give this a shot for the next set.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: glrasmussen on May 21, 2013, 07:38:35 PM
That is awesome. Is that a commercial product or over the counter? No effect to the rubber?



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Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Heyjude on May 21, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
That rust remover is awesome. It just melted it right off.  8)
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Golly on May 21, 2013, 11:52:40 PM
how wood a rusty triangle go being soaked in that shit?

$21/litre here in oz
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: zavod44 on May 24, 2013, 07:17:53 PM
@ glrasmussen  Yea available over the counter, I got it at harbor Freight, $30....no affect to the rubber at all..

@ golly you just need to make a container to soak the triangle, it will look awesome!


Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: Duke on May 24, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
I have a complete 26er grate I would like to save. You think it would work Brian? It's toasted. I can't see any rust on it at all.
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: zavod44 on May 24, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
I'm sure it will remove the rust...
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: LightningBoldtz on June 04, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Cooking grate soaked in rust remover?  is that wise?
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: zavod44 on June 04, 2013, 06:54:49 PM
Says it's non toxic!  I'm not saying I would drink it.  I would prob cook the grate at a pretty high temp if you did so...
Title: Re: Wood Dale Wheel help?
Post by: G$ on June 05, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
BUMP, Hey Brian, did you ever post the finished wheels picture?