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Title: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 17, 2016, 04:33:33 PM

...Cutting into a kettle with a saw!

Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 17, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
Picked up an 18 from a guy that cleans up construction sites.

While he was out looking for the legs, I grabbed from the pile a new charcoal grate and twist on ash pan that will go on the redhead.

He came back with a very nice 22 triangle and legs.

Pretty good deal in all for 10 bucks.

But then I began to have buyer's remorse - what was I going to do with another kettle.

Then I saw some posts for a pizza dome.

hmmm...

Let the cutting begin...

Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 17, 2016, 04:43:54 PM
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Yes, very liberating!

Used a Dremel cutting wheel to start, and used a jigsaw to do the cutting.  Actually went really smooth.

Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 17, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
"So, what does this have to do with pizza?" you ask.

I'm glad you asked...

Banking the fuel...

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Nice flames from the oak...

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Hope I didn't kill it...

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It's on...

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And some garlic pizza...

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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 17, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
I need to put a little fuel under the stone to get it hotter, but all in all, it was a success!

The 18 is the perfect size for me, and I'm happy with it.

Guess I don't need to win the KP now 
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: varekai on August 17, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
EXCELLENT job @dazzo !!!  Pies look good also!
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: Idahawk on August 17, 2016, 09:10:07 PM



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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: Nate on August 18, 2016, 06:01:28 AM
Nice! Have you thought about reinstalling the piece that was cut out as a hinged door to keep more heat in during the cook?
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 18, 2016, 06:18:13 AM
Quote from: Nate on August 18, 2016, 06:01:28 AM
Nice! Have you thought about reinstalling the piece that was cut out as a hinged door to keep more heat in during the cook?

Yeah, it's off to the side for now. I'll probably go with the magnet idea rather than hinges.

I'm also thinking about some baskets instead of the fire bricks. Speculating that I can get more heat to the stone that way. My main concern was to not get the stone too hot. The fire bricks worked out really well though.

And then I'm thinking taller legs.

And then I'm thinking...

Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: varekai on August 18, 2016, 02:15:03 PM
Hey guys, when I did my lid the whole reason was so heat COULD escape. Convection! @dazzo , i usually start off with a couple handfuls of lit coals banked towards the back of my stone.. let those get the stone to temp, when my IR reads 325-350 i start tossing in small oak pieces to spike the heat and get a flame going... that rush of heat up the back of the lid, across the top of the pizza and out the front. What I read online was people were adding stuff to the inside of the kettle pizza to keep the heat "low", and then they (kettle pizza) started selling that steel piece to "radiate" ( i'm guessing), the heat back down to the pizza.. The stone is already to temp so the bottom is taken care of. hope that made sense..lol
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 18, 2016, 04:37:19 PM
Yeah, makes sense.

I used a short chimney of KBB, lit until it stopped smoking.

Dumped behind the bricks. And then small chunks of oak for the flame.

I chose the 18 since the lid was lower already.

A door on the front would be good for baking, but the setup I used seemed good.

I'll just keep trying different dough recipes till I find one I like. 
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: Nate on August 18, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
@dazzo With the lower temps you're cooking at I'd suggest a hydration ratio of no more than 60%, use AP flour and use a basic New York dough recipe. The ingredients in a NY recipe are water, flour, salt, IDY, & oil and maybe a little sugar for the yeast. When you find a recepie, use the amount of flour they call out (weigh it on a scale), then calculate 60% of that weight and this will be the amount (weight) of water for the dough. New Yorks cook at lower temps. Don't use a Neapolitan recipe, they need much higher temps to get the correct neopolitian texture. I know this because this is the only type of dough I've been using lately and still can't get the correct texture. But they are still delicious.
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 18, 2016, 05:34:29 PM
@nate thanks.

Yeah, I saw your weight recommendation in another thread.

Guess I'd better get a scale.

I definitely need a good recipe.

I like lots of toppings, but I believe the dough should be able to stand on it's own.
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: swamprb on August 19, 2016, 06:37:55 PM
@dazzo Nice work!!

Curious to hear about your decision cutting the opening on the vent side of the lid?  Pro/con?

I'm really happy with my chop-top, the double insulated lid holds the heat.

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The door helps the pre-heating.

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Cutting into a REDHEAD will be the liberating moment for me.
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: varekai on August 19, 2016, 07:14:41 PM
ROFL @swamprb , WOW, you really are trying to get me in trouble!!....lol
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 25, 2016, 08:15:34 AM

@swamprb, OK, door for pre-heating, great idea.

And I thought about cutting the Green MBH      :o    but I went with the 18 for the size and the lid height.

I left the vent in from for several reasons...

I thought it looked better there.

Other pizza ovens have the stack in front.

Gave me a place to stick the therm.

The drag coefficient of the flame, combined with the thermal properties of the fire brick, and the thickness of the stone, divided by the volume of the charcoal and the BTU properties of the oak - had no bearing what-so-ever    ::)


Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on August 25, 2016, 08:26:09 AM
I'm loving this!!!!!  The lid came out great and your pizzas look good to.  I think you are right about either adding some coals under the stone or using baskets so the heat isn't blocked off.  I'm not sure that putting the cutout on during you actual cook would work well.  It will choke out the flames and your would is going to smoke instead of burn.  Pizza dough really soaks up smoke so I'm worried it might be too smokey plus the fact that if your fire is choked you aren't going to get the flames into the lid that are needed to have the high heat for cooking the top of the pizza.  I might be wrong, so definitely give it a shot on a pizza and see what happens.  I do think it would help heat up the stone prior to being ready to put a pizza on.

I like that you put the vent on the front.  I've forgotten to close my vent when I've had it in the back and the flames roached my plastic handle.  Not the end of the world and I've since replace it with one of Brian's vent handles. 
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on August 25, 2016, 10:00:19 AM

It's not delivery, it's dazzo!


My new dough recipe...

Stop by Georgio's on the way home.

Pay $6.50 for two smalls, stretched.

Drive home.


Same pizzas, different dough. This dough was MUCH better...


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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: Nate on August 25, 2016, 02:33:33 PM
Looks good Dazzo! Bet they were delicious. Looks like Georgio's has some nice dough and it's awesome the stretched it for you too. I might need to see if my local NY Pizzaria will stretch their dough if I buy some. Would be great in a pinch.
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: Transit98 on April 11, 2021, 07:49:36 AM
Sorry to resurrect an old post but it looks like some useful info for me in here. I guess the tap a talk change afew years back rendered some images disconnected to the post. If any of you can repost the lid jobs you did it would be appreciated


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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on April 11, 2021, 02:56:14 PM
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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: racedvl on April 11, 2021, 03:03:49 PM
Damn. The 18" is nice and tight! Probably gets nice and hot on smaller amount of coal I would think. Looks like a hell of a pizza cooker!

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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on April 11, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
Thanks

It's my favorite charcoal/wood option
Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: swamprb on July 20, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
Red liberation


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Title: Re: It's Very Liberating...
Post by: dazzo on July 20, 2021, 05:33:09 PM
You said it would be your liberating moment

Nice!