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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 09:03:09 AM

Title: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 09:03:09 AM
Newbie here, I have a 18 1/2 in one touch platinum that needed a new bowl.
I bought a used 18 1/2 kettle grill and of course it does not have the brackets to
mount to the table. What is the best way to make brackets. I thought of cutting off
the brackets of the old bowl and grinding off the metal from the grill.
Any suggestions?

Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: zavod44 on June 24, 2016, 10:01:50 AM
That would be the best idea.  The brackets themselves are actually a complicated shape.  If you could carefully grind of the old ones and bolt them on the new grill that would be fairly painless.  Just be mindful of where you put the bolts so it doesn't hang up your grates when you drop them in.  Use a  short profile nut maybe....

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Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: haeffb on June 24, 2016, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 09:03:09 AM
Any suggestions?

I recently bought a performer table with a non-performer kettle. If you're not too concerned with how it looks, this seemed to have worked for the previous owner:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160624/f1a39472487c1dac90c7f806fe5b6be8.jpg)
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 03:31:33 PM
Thank you for the replies, haeffb I cannot tell from the picture how it is mounted.
Title: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: haeffb on June 24, 2016, 04:39:33 PM
He sat the handles of the kettle on the frame, then used two pieces of thin scrap wood and ran bolts through the wood and through the original holes in the frame. It was secure enough that it wasn't going anywhere.

Here's a pic of the hardware. Looks like two pieces of 1" by 1/4" or so oak trim.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160625/46da4e4ca377ff113af912a8eb98969d.jpg)
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 06:57:16 PM
Thank you for the reply, the bowl that I have only has one handle. I am sure others have had this problem as the 18 1/2 bowl is discontinued from Weber with the table and frame
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: swamprb on June 24, 2016, 09:09:06 PM
Quote from: rox05web on June 24, 2016, 09:03:09 AM
Newbie here, I have a 18 1/2 in one touch platinum that needed a new bowl.
I bought a used 18 1/2 kettle grill and of course it does not have the brackets to
mount to the table. What is the best way to make brackets. I thought of cutting off
the brackets of the old bowl and grinding off the metal from the grill.
Any suggestions?

@rox05web

You could do that. I recently did it on a 22" Platinum.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/Ugly%20Drum%20Smoker/Weber/IMG_2423.jpg)

The bowl was a rustbucket, so I located the 3 spot welds on each end the brackets, and drilled into the bowl to make them easier to remove. It was still a PITA, but doable. Wear safety glasses, because the porcelain coating will splinter trying to get them off. I sandblasted them and painted them Red to match the kettle.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/Ugly%20Drum%20Smoker/Weber/IMG_2430_1.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/Ugly%20Drum%20Smoker/Weber/IMG_2437.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/Ugly%20Drum%20Smoker/Weber/IMG_2438.jpg)

I'm totally convinced you could use some L braces and they would be sufficient to secure the bowl to the frame.
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: rox05web on June 25, 2016, 07:14:27 AM
Thank you swamprb, that is what I was thinking to try but I was going  to cut it
out. This is a much cleaner and easier way.
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: zavod44 on June 25, 2016, 11:06:41 AM
I tried once to use L brackets but the problem with that is depending on where you put the screws, it will start to make the bowl go egg shaped, and the lid wont fit.  I had this problem on the very first version of Mesa Azul.  It also the same reason that the brackets are shaped they way they are from Weber.  If you do use L brackets you should try to mimic the shape of the Weber ones as close as possible.....
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: DirectDrive on June 26, 2016, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: zavod44 on June 25, 2016, 11:06:41 AM
I tried once to use L brackets but the problem with that is depending on where you put the screws, it will start to make the bowl go egg shaped, and the lid wont fit.  I had this problem on the very first version of Mesa Azul.  It also the same reason that the brackets are shaped they way they are from Weber. If you do use L brackets you should try to mimic the shape of the Weber ones as close as possible.....
With the aging fleet of Gen 1 SSP's out there someone with metal skills could provide those brackets so an old timer could get a new bowl.
Along with the older type handle frames that I currently seek.
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: zavod44 on June 27, 2016, 05:24:04 AM
They are really complicated....

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Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: ClubChapin on June 27, 2016, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: DirectDrive on June 26, 2016, 05:07:54 PM
With the aging fleet of Gen 1 SSP's out there someone with metal skills could provide those brackets so an old timer could get a new bowl.
Along with the older type handle frames that I currently seek.


The new performer bowls fit the SSP frames.  I think all Performer bowls are interchangeable.


It'll be a long time before the "old timers" are left without bowls.
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: DirectDrive on June 27, 2016, 04:29:49 PM
Since I began my studies at Weber University, I have seen several SSP's in need of new bowls (rot, spalling, etc.).
More so than standard kettles, it seems.
If SSP replacement brackets were available, finding a cheap donor would seal the deal.
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: 1ROW on June 28, 2016, 09:41:05 PM
The bowl on the otp project I did was shot too. So I carefully cut off the old brackets with a dremel. Probably went through 5 of those weak cutting discs but it did the job. Cleaned up the edges with a dremel grinding bit. On the donor kettle, I drilled out the welds for the handles using the smallest bit possible. Then, placing the brackets where the handles had been, a buddy welded the brackets on from the inside through the holes I drilled. Stronger than new. Only picture I have of the process...

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y489/J1ROW/IMG_20160312_130402102_zpsqd0spioh.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/J1ROW/media/IMG_20160312_130402102_zpsqd0spioh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How to mount non performer kettle to performer table
Post by: pbe gummi bear on June 28, 2016, 11:46:42 PM
great work. Let's see the final product once you have a chance