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This is intended to show with tape ruler, digital scale and photographs some of the differences between the Broil King 63980 Charcoal Chimney Starter (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KA36G7I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)  and the Weber 7416 Rapidfire Chimney Starter. (http://astore.amazon.com/gmap-20/detail/B000WEOQV8)
It should be noted that the Weber unit has been used at our lobster dock since last May and the Broil King Unit just arrived.
Firstly, the Broil King cost $26.99 at the time of purchase and here are the details as listed on Amazon-
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• Heavy duty all stainless steel design
• High density resin handle
• Lights up to two pounds of charcoal without starter fluid
• The venturi effect will light the charcoal within five to ten minutes

The Weber Rapidfire Chimney Starter cost $14.99 and here are teh details as listed on Amazon-

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• Chimney starter system lights charcoal quickly and evenly
• Made from aluminized steel with a stay-cool thermoplastic handle
• Holds enough briquettes for a 22-1/2-inch kettle grill
• Cone bottom ensures a fast start; eliminates need for lighter fluid
• Measures 7-1/2 by 7-1/2 by 12 inches

Opening and using a new bag of Kingsford briquettes for uniformity.
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Physical characteristics- The Broil King is shorter, it also has a slight taper to widen just a bit at the top.  The Weber seems like it would have more air flow with the wire rings.  the Weber also has the hinged handle which when extended will keep your steadying hand further away from the hot coals.  They both are well built and sturdy.
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The Broil King weighs significantly less- 2.15 lbs  vs 3.5 lbs for The Weber
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Filling each starter with exactly 4.6 lbs of charcoal the Weber can hold slightly more than the Broil King (not very significantly more but there is a little more space at the top, probably an additional 6 briquettes.
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The extended hinged secondary handle on The Weber extends further than the Broil King- 7.25 inches vs 4.5 inches.
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Conclusion:
The  Weber 7416 Rapidfire Chimney Starter   (http://astore.amazon.com/gmap-20/detail/B000WEOQV8)is a little over half the cost of the Broil King 63980 Charcoal Chimney Starter (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KA36G7I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) .  It is heavier, it holds slightly more charcoal, it has more space for air to flow upward to start the charcoal and it has the secondary hinged handle which help to control the chimney when its full of hot coals.
Some things I like about the Broil King is that it is stainless.  I'm not sure if it will hold up better than the Weber over time but at almost twice it's cost I doubt you would get almost twice as long with it.  Maybe you could though.  I also like that the holes in the bottom which are shaped like flames are large enough that you could stick the end of a long lighter into completely whereas on the Weber you have to lift the chimney with one hand and light it from underneath.

For the money I'd purchase the Weber as you could almost afford two for the same price as the Broil King and I don't see enough significant features that would make it worth almost double the price.  In fact The Weber is a little heavier and can hold slightly more charcoal.

Ooh but there's one more metric I'm thinking of: how long it takes each one to light 'em all up!

This is interesting. I wasn't even aware of that other charcoal starter. SS is always nice. Not sure I like all the extra rivets and such however. Might be points of failure.

i'm also curious as to how long it would last compared to the weber. can you report back every year for the next 5 or 10 years?

Quote from: Troy on March 19, 2016, 02:18:47 PM
i'm also curious as to how long it would last compared to the weber. can you report back every year for the next 5 or 10 years?

Yes sir, no prob. In all seriousness I will give a report if they hold up extrodinarily well seeing as the Broil King is stainless

Update 3/20/16:
Tested The Broil King
Lit two crumpled pieces of newspaper and one Weber Starter Cube in the bottom of the unit at 6:06PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQTaPnceQFI
6:20PM All the briquettes were glowing except for the top row.  Ready for the cook.
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It was easy enough to handle and the extra handle of the Weber is actually a non-factor one way or another for my use.  Pouring the coals into the charcoal basket was easily controlled without the hinged extra handle on the Weber unit.  The handle on the Broil King 63980 was cool to the touch and the heat deflector did its job well.
As you can see after the first use it is obviously discolored.  This as we know does not effect performance but it's worth noting that it will not be looking like the stainless out of the package unit that came shipped after it's initial use.
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After having used the Broil King unit I would say it performs well but because of the much higher cost I would buy the Weber 7416 Rapidfire Chimney Starter  (http://astore.amazon.com/gmap-20/detail/B000WEOQV8)

I like the looks of the used stainless unit but unless I can get it for much less than the Weber I'll pass as I know that the Weber is extremely durable & long lasting 8)

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Thin SS is about as resistant to rust as regular steel.

Quote from: addicted-to-smoke on April 02, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
Thin SS is about as resistant to rust as regular steel.

Ya, apparently, lol

Quote from: captjoe06 on March 19, 2016, 03:16:22 AM
I also like that the holes in the bottom which are shaped like flames are large enough that you could stick the end of a long lighter into completely whereas on the Weber you have to lift the chimney with one hand and light it from underneath.

I just stick a lighter or kitchen match through the holes in the side to light the paper, no need to lift it up.

Also, there are several different grades of stainless steel.  Some will rust easily, while 304 and 302 are very hard metals and virtually rust proof.  These are the grades used in marine applications.

And at the end of the day, ALL stainless steel will rust/corrode.
How long it will take and to what extent depends on environment and the composition (chromium content).
That chimney looks like a very low grade of SS.

Thanks for the report Capt !