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Title: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: 1911Ron on April 18, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
I got this idea from this thread: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-2%27-non-locking-replacement-wheels-with-ball-bearings/
I want to convert my SS non gas cart to use the 2" caster in the thread above, i realize the non gas legs are longer than the caster SS performer i think i have that covered with an 8" wheel.

I would need the leg inserts for the casters to snap into but i don't want to commit unless i know this will work( i think it will) i need to know if i'm all wet on this idea. Thanks
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: 1buckie on April 18, 2015, 06:43:21 PM
With an 8" wheel (are the other ones 6"?) it should work out just right.....Lawrence, most likely would be the one to know.....he's done custom wheels & leveling / measuring before.....
@pbe gummi bear

Another thought real quick.....don't you need off-road casters where you're at?
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: 1911Ron on April 18, 2015, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: 1buckie on April 18, 2015, 06:43:21 PM
With an 8" wheel (are the other ones 6"?) it should work out just right.....Lawrence, most likely would be the one to know.....he's done custom wheels & leveling / measuring before.....
@pbe gummi bear

Another thought real quick.....don't you need off-road casters where you're at?
;D The casters in that thread i linked to will work well, plus with the 8" wheel it's like putting a lift kit on my cart!  ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: pbe gummi bear on April 18, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the weber casters come with that insert. Buying the casters should be similar price to having someone ship you a used set. Amazon has them for $6: www.amazon.com/Weber-6414-Caster-Includes-Insert/dp/B000WEKMRU

The performers already have an 8" wheel so you will need a 10" wheel to raise it one inch. I've mixed up the radius/diameter measurement before and needed to find replacement legs for my frame after cutting the legs too short by 1".
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on April 19, 2015, 06:38:54 AM
Glad those seem to be a workable solution for you Ron. I do like mine.

And if anyone runs across a better 2" locking wheel please let me know; I've got to replace the wheels on my dad's Performer and we grill on a little bit of a slope at his place. Maybe we just need wheel chucks ;)
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: 1911Ron on April 19, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on April 18, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the weber casters come with that insert. Buying the casters should be similar price to having someone ship you a used set. Amazon has them for $6: www.amazon.com/Weber-6414-Caster-Includes-Insert/dp/B000WEKMRU

The performers already have an 8" wheel so you will need a 10" wheel to raise it one inch. I've mixed up the radius/diameter measurement before and needed to find replacement legs for my frame after cutting the legs too short by 1".
:o ah yes you are correct they are 8" and i do have a 10" set. I bought a 2" caster set at Lowes now i need the inserts for them to go in @pbe gummi bear
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: pbe gummi bear on April 19, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Sounds like a plan. Please take pics and share your process with us
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: 1911Ron on April 19, 2015, 09:49:40 AM
Will do!
Title: Re: SS non gas caster mod
Post by: toolhead on April 19, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on April 18, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the weber casters come with that insert. Buying the casters should be similar price to having someone ship you a used set. Amazon has them for $6: www.amazon.com/Weber-6414-Caster-Includes-Insert/dp/B000WEKMRU

The performers already have an 8" wheel so you will need a 10" wheel to raise it one inch. I've mixed up the radius/diameter measurement before and needed to find replacement legs for my frame after cutting the legs too short by 1".

Just a suggestion on a band aid fix on short legs

I havent measured wheel inserts..but just conceptualizing.

If the inserts are longer 2 inches..or you can buy  1 1/4 inch tubing...cut the one inch size and then ise inserts to provide internal support...probablynwould not provide a lot of sheer strength...probably wweak solution.

2nd option..cut leg shorter...and buy tubing...cut the replacement tubing to ample length so you can insert star nuts in both the short legs...and the cut to fit replacement tubing..then fasten together with 3inch 1/4 20  hex head bolt..you can drop a few star nuts into each segment to increase sheer strength....you would want to position  the star nut to provide enough clearance for the wheel insert.

Again..not tremendous sheer strength but better than option 1. And probably good enough for standard handling.

Installing 2 star nuts into each section of tubing close tobeach other for total of 4 star nuts will increase sheer strength.

You can bondo the joint and then sand to flush fill...

This is a lot easier to sketch than describe via writing