This is a project that I've been working on here and there for the last 4 months or so.
I was trying to think of a creative name for it, but I guess Stainless Steel Super Smokey Mountain with gas assist will do (SS SSM). I was lucky enough to have a custom sprayed 22" WSM shell offered up to me. The color is burgundy. Basically its a WSM center section and lid, matched up to a gas ignition Performer bowl, onto a stainless Performer table.
Some of the upgraded areas included a Cajun Bandit stainless steel door, addition of a high temp Nomex gasket behind the Cajun Bandit Door, and on the top of the center section where the lid rests on. Also replaced the original WSM door latch with a new compression style latch. With this latch, and the Nomex gasket, this door is super tight and leak free. A nice upgrade to probably what was the weakest link of the WSM. Lastly, what project would be complete without a nice set of Brian's (Zavod's) custom handles?!
Special thanks to a friend that was generous enough to offer the custom shell up.
Thanks to Brian for having an SS Performer cart at the right time in amazing condition to use, and a sweet set of handles.
A huge thanks to RR for a super generous gift in parts to get me close to finishing this project up.
Here are the photos. Hope you all enjoy them. You will notice the first bunch of photos were taken out of the direct sun, the last bunch were taken with the sun out.
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Nomex high temp gasket behind CB door and under the lid.
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These were the pics in direct sun after it finally came out.
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Man......Winz might even be jealous on this one!!!!
That looks so nice I wouldn't be able to cook on it !!!!
that looks amazing!
can you reach the top grate without standing on a chair?
That's a sweet mod! I like the color!
That's pretty cool looking! I'm also curious about height of top grate.
Very cool.
Absolutely awesome Jeff!
Epic! Very nicely done!
Holy s**t!! :o
Quote from: MINIgrillin on January 18, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
That's pretty cool looking! I'm also curious about height of top grate.
It's 51" to the top grate. I'm about 5'10". It's still fine for me. Doesn't feel uncomfortable around the top grate at that height. If I was a few inches shorter, I might want to wear my platforms though.
Quote from: 1buckie on January 18, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
Man......Winz might even be jealous on this one!!!!
That looks so nice I wouldn't be able to cook on it !!!!
I'm gonna abuse this grill!
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"It's a big pretty red smoker with white gaskets and steel on the table and WHEELS and it looks like a big Tylenol"
;D
Sorry with my warped sense of humor I couldn't resist! Seriously, it's pretty badass! You'll have to share your inaugural cook. What's on the menu? :)
W O W .
Looks fantastic!
that is so awesome. congrats
@Jeff
Oh my goodness!!! That is a beauty one-off cooker there. I am very much liking all that burgundy and SS.
That's an awesome Mod Jeff! Now, where's that Glen Blue 26er?
This reminds me that I really want a color WSM. Crimson or dark green would be cool! Dark blue too....
Quote from: Jeff on January 18, 2015, 01:22:46 PM
Quote from: 1buckie on January 18, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
Man......Winz might even be jealous on this one!!!!
That looks so nice I wouldn't be able to cook on it !!!!
I'm gonna abuse this grill!
Awesome smoker!!!!...........and kick ass attitude!
Quote from: Craig on January 18, 2015, 01:36:04 PM
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"It's a big pretty red smoker with white gaskets and steel on the table and WHEELS and it looks like a big Tylenol"
;D
Sorry with my warped sense of humor I couldn't resist! Seriously, it's pretty badass! You'll have to share your inaugural cook. What's on the menu? :)
Not sure yet, I'd love to do a brisket, but the days are still kinda short yet. I hate finishing a long cook when its dark out. Gotta do an initial burn in yet to get it sort of dirty, burn off any coatings inside along with the fresh high temp gasket sealer on the Nomex.
awesome!
I have been waiting for this to make an appearance...VERY nice!!!
You know what they say...'Bigger is better'. I love the way the SS door matches the SS table. Nice project.
Quote from: 1buckie on January 18, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
Man......Winz might even be jealous on this one!!!!
Not jealous, just appreciative!
@Jeff Beautiful work as always. That SS hardware is a work of functional art! A "compare and contrast" :
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Having the integrated ash pan is a big plus. With mine, you have to take the middle section off and empty the ash. I also like the fact that the door is facing forward, and that you can use the setup as a regular grill.
I bet the airflow control on yours (ash sweeper) will work just as well as the "dial vents" on a normal WSM. Very interested in seeing how the first cook goes.
Great job!
Winz
Winz, I was trying to think of a better word than jealous....hence the 'might be'....... :o
You spotted all the key points right off.......that thing will probably cook great !!!
Speaking of key points...my concerns with this build were:
1) Obviously the height. As mentioned before, the top grate is 51". Still a very functional height for me at 5'10". Sure, it could be a little lower, but its not that big of a deal. On the flip side, access to the lower cooking grate, water pan, and charcoal is more convenient. I might add that having the tables attached to this grill is going to be so helpful. That's one thing I always wished I had when using the WSM by itself.
2) I'm concerned about using the One Touch system on this setup. The lower vents of a true WSM bowl are obviously mounted higher up on the sides of the bowl itself. No way that ash would ever build up that high...even during an overnight cook. I worry that during longer cooks, I'm going to have to be more conscious of the ash clogging up the vents because they are oriented so much lower in the bowl. I'm not sure I want to sweep them back and forth to clear the vents...and in the process send a cloud of ash up towards the food.
Does anyone have suggestions regarding the potential ash buildup issues, or any other potential problems?
Sweep VERY slowly if you need to & I don't think you'll have a problem with it fluffing up into the food....might only have to do it once late in the cook............
Maybe make some marks for your settings so you get back to where it was.....
One option is an Auto Temp Controller. It would require you to drill a 1" hole in the bowl but would solve the ash problem, and give you the advantage of great temp control. You could then leave the OTS closed and only use it for sweeping ashes.
I built a home made ATC for my smoker and did my first long smoke with it yesterday. Pretty amazing to set the temp at whatever you want and walk away. I used it for 3 hours at 225, and then dialed it up to 275 for 3 hours to finish some ribs in time for a party we were having. It worked flawlessly.
With that SS cart, you have lots of options for mounting the ATC temp controller in a tasteful way. You could then replace some bolts on the kettle with grommets for ambient temp and meat probes.
Winz
Quote from: Winz on January 19, 2015, 11:49:01 AM
One option is an Auto Temp Controller. It would require you to drill a 1" hole in the bowl but would solve the ash problem, and give you the advantage of great temp control. You could then leave the OTS closed and only use it for sweeping ashes.
I built a home made ATC for my smoker and did my first long smoke with it yesterday. Pretty amazing to set the temp at whatever you want and walk away. I used it for 3 hours at 225, and then dialed it up to 275 for 3 hours to finish some ribs in time for a party we were having. It worked flawlessly.
With that SS cart, you have lots of options for mounting the ATC temp controller in a tasteful way. You could then replace some bolts on the kettle with grommets for ambient temp and meat probes.
Winz
^^^^ Listen the the mod artist......not me !!!!!
Quote from: Jeff on January 19, 2015, 11:32:08 AM
Does anyone have suggestions regarding the potential ash buildup issues, or any other potential problems?
Looks sharp, Jeff! I've got a buddy who's done this set up with an 18" WSM and Platinum, and he's never had any problems w/ ash build up, even on longer cooks. I'm wondering if the HC internal ash pan might help with preventing build up, too. If certainly helps w/ my WSM (I've got a Bar B Kettle bowl). Not sure how low it sets, and whether or not you'd be able to slide the blades. I'll give that a shot later this week.
I was recently gifted a bit of a beater SS Performer from
@bob hope . I've been eyeballing Winz's set up w/ his 18 and 22 WSMs and the cart... yours is a bit of a simpler use of the cart... I think I'll have to follow your lead on this one.
Hey Jeff I have a happy cooker internal ash pan if you want it, it's totally roached but it would still work.....
Quote from: zavod44 on January 19, 2015, 07:06:50 PM
Hey Jeff I have a happy cooker internal ash pan if you want it, it's totally roached but it would still work.....
That might be worth a shot Brian. I appreciate the thought. Next time we meet up to trade a few things, bring it along.
Wow, what a brilliant mod!
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That is pretty awesome!
WOW!!!
This is kick ass. Would a 22" WSM fit on any 22" kettle bowl? A WSM could simply become an accessory for a kettle. Maybe requiring the further stability of a Perf.
Just beautiful Jeff - Very nice work!
Do you know what type of paint was used? the finish came out looking great.
Its sooo nice, great work.
That is so many levels of awesomeness.
Bump for awesomeness.
Indeed very awesome. I wonder how the finish has held up over the last two years. Any issues, Jeff?
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Nope...no issues. It IS an original porcelain finish after all.
I'm glad this got bumped. I've been meaning to get a brisket going. I just hate these short cold days!
What?!?! That's is AWESOME! Time to get that brisket out @jeff and share that cook. That is sharp.
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Quote from: Jeff on January 10, 2017, 01:23:36 PM
Nope...no issues. It IS an original porcelain finish after all.
I'm glad this got bumped. I've been meaning to get a brisket going. I just hate these short cold days!
@Jeff-
Tell me about the Burgundy finish.
I have my Pellet Poopin' Bullet 22" WSM and you know me...I have that thing for RED's and I'd like either powder coat the center and lid and just pop a RED bowl into the pellet hopper. Or get the Cajun Bandit conversion powder coated.
@swamprb The finish is porcelain coated just like all the weber kettles and Smokey Mountains
Quote from: Jeff on January 11, 2017, 06:23:20 AM
@swamprb
The finish is porcelain coated just like all the weber kettles and Smokey Mountains
How close is the color to Brick Red? Or is it more of a burgundy?
@Jeff
@Josh G , well...i don't own a brick red kettle, but I do have a burgundy MT. Its closer to the burgundy, but the color on this smoker does take on some different hues depending how the sun hits it, as you can probably see in the photos.
I'll take 2 please...
i am definitely doing this to my Blue SS. just need the WSM middle and top,,,,,i can see it now.
Thanks.
First time I've seen this thread, incredible mod
@Jeff , that color is amazing!! Do you have any info you can share on the latch? Only ever seen those in black plastic from cajun bandit. I like your chrome latch much better.
Wow, awesome job
@Jeff, the detail is fantastic!!!
Quote from: Jeff on January 19, 2015, 11:32:08 AM
I'm concerned about using the One Touch system on this setup. The lower vents of a true WSM bowl are obviously mounted higher up on the sides of the bowl itself. No way that ash would ever build up that high...even during an overnight cook. I worry that during longer cooks, I'm going to have to be more conscious of the ash clogging up the vents because they are oriented so much lower in the bowl. I'm not sure I want to sweep them back and forth to clear the vents...and in the process send a cloud of ash up towards the food.
@Jeff - did you wind up using a HC internal ash pan, or making additional mods, or does the OT system work alright for you?
@1ROW This is the latch I got...it's a compression latch.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#compression-latches/=15vujoh
@Bob BQ I used the One Touch System first before I put the Happy Cooker internal ash pan in. It actually worked ok, but I was very, very careful to sweep the ashes during a cook. I did a "sweep" once during a 10 hour cook, but did it very slowly.
I now have the HC pan in there. I did have to grind out a notch in the lip of the pan for the burner tube so it would sit level in the bowl. The pan would bump the tube if I didn't make the cut for it to fit into. This seems to be a much better idea, and it does work. I hated the thought of ash rising up into the cooking area during the smoke if I sweep the ashes.
@jeff any pictures of the HC pan and setup?
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@mrgoodbar67 , I just came inside from cleaning it up and covering it from yesterday's cook. I'll get some pics during the week when I have some more light outside. I'll tag u when I post it
Great thanks
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Brisket cook from yesterday.
Yeah I'd definitely take a plate of that!
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I'll take one too. That looks great. 👍
searching for 1 18" straight lip twist ash pan.
I see that the WSM top goes inside the WSM middle to create the seal. If I use a reg kettle top, will it seal fine? Will it go over the WSM middle or inside?
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Quote from: mrgoodbar67 on January 22, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
@Jeff any pictures of the HC pan and setup?
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@mrgoodbar67 Here are some pics of the Happy Cooker ash pan in place. I did have to notch out a spot for the burner tube to fit, otherwise the pan wouldn't sit straight in the bowl. Worth noting, the HC pan sits low enough in the bowl that it rests against the One Touch sweepers. While the HC pan is in place, the sweepers are inoperable, but that's ok since I leave the vents open throughout the cook.
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Luckily I had a pan that wasn't in steller condition, so I didn't mind notching it as much.
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Quote from: mrgoodbar67 on January 22, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
I see that the WSM top goes inside the WSM middle to create the seal. If I use a reg kettle top, will it seal fine? Will it go over the WSM middle or inside?
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@mrgoodbar67 A regular kettle lid doesn't quite fit. The O.D. of the WSM center section is a hair to big for a standard 22 kettle lid to fit over it unfortunately.
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Sorry bout the ugly color combo!
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@jeff thanks
I was thinking of using a wsm middle but with the kettle top. Guess that won't happen. I haven't been able to find a used 22 WSM for cheap and don't want to buy the middle and the top. Might have to mod a 120 qt stock pot then....
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Quote from: mrgoodbar67 on January 22, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
I see that the WSM top goes inside the WSM middle to create the seal. If I use a reg kettle top, will it seal fine? Will it go over the WSM middle or inside?
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@mrgoodbar67
A regular kettle lid doesn't quite fit. The O.D. of the WSM center section is a hair to big for a standard 22 kettle lid to fit over it unfortunately.
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Sorry bout the ugly color combo!
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You can always use a bigger kettle lid. I did not actually cook anything like this. It was just a spot to hold my lid that day.
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Thanks
@HoosierKettle but i dont want it to look awkward.
Well see....I want to finish the project by spring time. Im in SoCal and have been experiencing nonstop rain for almost 2 months. Not complaining, cuz we need(ed) it.
Great looking smoker you got there
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Great looking smoker you got there
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Thanks. :)
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Great work! One of the coolest project I ever seen especially with that one off color.
Maybe it is not an issue, but for me, I'd be worried about weight imbalance. Especially when the it is fully loaded up. Maybe load up the charcoal bin with rocks or hanging weights to balance it out. :)
Quote from: greenweb on January 26, 2017, 05:07:10 AM
Great work! One of the coolest project I ever seen especially with that one off color.
Maybe it is not an issue, but for me, I'd be worried about weight imbalance. Especially when the it is fully loaded up. Maybe load up the charcoal bin with rocks or hanging weights to balance it out. :)
Believe it or not, its very stable. No concern whatsoever about balance and tipping potential. Also, its not too tall to comfortably operate... And I'm 5'10. Its really quite the machine!
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Gorgeous. Really nice!
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Quote from: mrgoodbar67 on January 22, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
I see that the WSM top goes inside the WSM middle to create the seal. If I use a reg kettle top, will it seal fine? Will it go over the WSM middle or inside?
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@mrgoodbar67
A regular kettle lid doesn't quite fit. The O.D. of the WSM center section is a hair to big for a standard 22 kettle lid to fit over it unfortunately.
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Sorry bout the ugly color combo!
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So....what if i bend in the lip of the wsm middle enough to allow the kettle lid to sit as flush as possible, using a gasket? What u guys think?
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First off, I know very little about metal fabrication. If you bend the middle section then this is a forever setup correct? Are you able to make some kind of gasket now that seals over the lip and is air tight enough to use? If not, then bend away sir. Can't wait to see it all come together.
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Quote from: mrgoodbar67 on January 22, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
I see that the WSM top goes inside the WSM middle to create the seal. If I use a reg kettle top, will it seal fine? Will it go over the WSM middle or inside?
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@mrgoodbar67
A regular kettle lid doesn't quite fit. The O.D. of the WSM center section is a hair to big for a standard 22 kettle lid to fit over it unfortunately.
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Sorry bout the ugly color combo!
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So....what if i bend in the lip of the wsm middle enough to allow the kettle lid to sit as flush as possible, using a gasket? What u guys think?
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Might work, but you'd risk the porcelain finish cracking should you flex it too much
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Turn it over!
Quote from: Red Blaze on January 30, 2017, 06:36:29 PM
Turn it over!
Are you saying that will solve the lid for issue?! But will it seal correctly at the kettle level?

Can someone check for me? If it does fit, I see only the grill mounts being the issue (upside down) and will have to be turned right side up. That and the door

@kettlebb yes I will use the modified middle only on the ssp kettle...
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OK, I went out and cleared the snow off the wsm. It fits perfectly on the bowl of my performer. You would have to relocate the brackets. The door would be upside down. The kettle lid sort of fits but would fit better if you trimmed 3/4" off the top of center section. I feel you would be better served using the Cajun Bandit 22" conversion. It comes with grates and charcoal basket.
Good Luck!
Or... A craigslist wsm.
i was hoping to keep it all weber like Jeff did by using the WSM middle, etc.... But it appears to involve too much just to have the kettle lid fit the WSM middle.
I was trying to avoid this (not really bc i like projects) but I might have to mod a 120 quart stock pot to use as a smoker on my 22 in SSP kettle. The top will fit without mods, i believe.
Ill just purchase the grate brackets and water pan for the 22 in WSM from ereplacementparts.com and use them on the mod'd stock pot And since i wanted a door, ill cut that out and use the cajun door and accessories.
Hope this doesn't cost too much.
Thanks for the help fellas