Saw a weber on craigslist for $25 with a table. It was black but I love the tables. Guy had alot of people asking but no one that could get to his town quickly. My brother lives close to it so I sent him. He brought it over and went to her it out of his backseat and I thought it was going to be in pieces. Instead I didnt look close and had scored an 18. Not what I expected but pumped anyway. DD code complete and clean... just tiny.