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Started by hawgheaven, March 31, 2017, 05:44:23 AM

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hawgheaven

Not sure what the gripe is about the taco handle. I find it very useful when I have a screaming hot kettle, the handle stays cool. IMHO, I think it's a grate idea. Just sayin'...
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HoosierKettle

Pure speculation but I bet the taco bolt on handle change had more to do with packaging and shipping savings than it did with function.  For me, I just prefer the classic kettle look over the new handle. Plus, I don't have any problem using a towel or hot pad once in awhile.


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hawgheaven

Quote from: HoosierKettle on March 31, 2017, 05:59:11 AM
Pure speculation but I bet the taco bolt on handle change had more to do with packaging and shipping savings than it did with function. For me, I just prefer the classic kettle look over the new handle. Plus, I don't have any problem using a towel or hot pad once in awhile.
I dunno about that. Butt that heat shield works wonders, a grate improvement in design IMHO. And it helps save the zav wood handles during a Vortex cook.  8)
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HoosierKettle

I don't think my hands are extraordinarily tough, but the only time my handle is too hot to touch is when I do a 700 degree pizza cook. Baskets in the middle do not get it too hot to handle. Maybe vortex is hotter, not sure.


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HoosierKettle

In fact, I find the plastic piece on the top damper is more useful to keep from burning yourself than the taco and they don't put that on the original kettle today.


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hawgheaven

On my original CopperTop (welded handle), using the Vortex, I could not pick the lid up without a glove. On my new CopperTop with the taco, no issues. Anywho, I think it is a grate idea.
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Josh G

Weber is a business and when they change things there's a reason.  They would not change the handle to please the consumer.   It is to protect them from getting sued by some moron who burned his hand and reduce claims on damaged and rusted handles. 

hawgheaven

Quote from: Josh G on March 31, 2017, 06:58:59 AM
Weber is a business and when they change things there's a reason.  They would not change the handle to please the consumer.   It is to protect them from getting sued by some moron who burned his hand and reduce claims on damaged and rusted handles.
There is summa dat I'm sure. Butt along with all the shit that happens, design improvements happen. There's a reason for everything. I just love the idea of the taco heat shield, and don't care why it happened. I'm just glad it did. It works. Butt they need to replace the cheap assed tin nuts with REAL nuts and washers tho... they loosen up.
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kettlebb

They could have done the heat shield on a welded handle right? Probably along the lines of easier to ship and replace the handle rather than a lid. Cheaper too. They are just ugly and I can't stand the way they look. Some here have done a mod to change the shape and it looks tolerable that way.


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UserGone

 Those that don't like it refer to it as a "Taco Handle".
 
I like to call it a " Firefighting Heat Shield" like when slaying Fire Breathing Dragons. You don't need bulky gloves to  loose your grip when battling and it keeps your fingers from the direct 3rd degree flash burns. lol




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hawgheaven

So basically, I guess it's the looks of it that folks don't like... not so much to do with functionality? Hmmmm. Interesting. This thread was just a curiosity why people are apposed to it. Personally, I like its function and don't mind the look of it. Butt hay, Mongo just a pawn in game of life...  :)
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charred

#12
I'm outrageous and cutting-edge innovative. I wear a glove.  ;D

The taco handle is ugly, gross, a crime against humanity, and antithetical to the natural beauty of the Weber kettle grill.

My guess is the main motivation was to reduce costs associated w/ shipping and warranty lid replacement due to handle weld rust.

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MrHoss

The taco may function well for deflecting heat but it looks cheap...I can remove it...the main problem is how the handle attaches to the lid. Even if you tighten it correctly it still gets loose, a weld would after 50 years maybe but the new version could be 5 days or 5 weeks. Either way as soon as it does and the lid is lifted and twisted you risk a porcelain pop. Having to retrofit some sort of patchwork fix to simulate a welded handle leaves you with something that does not match up look-wise. Just buy old....it's easy.

I don't care about Weber's costs or what is easy for them. I want a properly functioning piece of machinery and will pay what it takes. If that means charging me an extra 20 or 40 bucks so be it. I do not want something that looks and acts cheap. Not in a bbq, not in a woman.
"Why do you have so many bbq's?"....."I just like lookin' at em' sometimes....and I have enough purses and shoes"

hawgheaven

Quote from: charred on March 31, 2017, 08:34:48 AM
I'm outrageous and cutting-edge innovative. I wear a glove.  ;D

The taco handle is ugly, gross, a crime against humanity, and antithetical to the natural beauty of the Weber kettle grill.

My guess is the main motivation was to reduce costs associated w/ shipping and warranty lid replacement due to handle weld rust.
:) It ain't the purtyest pitcher in the frame, butt functions well. And yeah, maybe some handle weld rust issues brought out the bolts and nutz. I'm okay with a bolted on handle...
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