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Started by walley_eye, March 02, 2017, 05:22:19 AM

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walley_eye

So considering what it would cost me to get my hands on a vortex up here in Canada it makes no sense by the time I pay shipping and the exchange on the dollar so I'm wondering if a metal coffee can would not do the same thing?

What do you think?


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Darko

Or you could cut the bottom off a stainless steel bowl.

greenweb

I love coming up with ideas and creating projects especially if I can save few bucks buying comparable items. But, for me, anything used for inside a kettle.... I will stick to known items.  Here is why. Not knowing the composition of the metal at hand, really hard to say if it is safe to use.  That coffee can would have some galvanized steel ( maybe maybe not!).  Zinc oxide fume can make you sick. That is only one case. Even with those cheap SS bowl, how do we know what it is actually made or have any harmful coating on it.

One time I used aluminum chicken wire at the bot. of the charcoal chimney that literally melted. There are lot of chemical reactions and fums given off. This is the same stuff people use to make custom charcoal baskets and other mods with. 

Some of the steel stuff might be ok to use, but I want to caution on the safe side and stick to known items.


kettlebb

Very good point Greenweb. Never really thought of it that way.


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charred

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Just a thought- maybe check around for a used Stok kettle grill. There's a pretty good "vortex" in them.








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swamprb

just do the coffee can

or put 2 charbaskets together
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greenweb

Quote from: swamprb on March 02, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
just do the coffee can

or put 2 charbaskets together

2 Weber charcoal baskets together for me. It does the job fine, until I get the legit Vortex someday.

Darko

Coffee cans won't have galvanized steel, but they probably have a coating that would have to be burned off. Also the steel isn't that thick so it would burn through relatively quickly. You can't use galvanized for food containers, as for stainless bowls, there is no coating on them.

Darko

Quote from: greenweb on March 02, 2017, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: swamprb on March 02, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
just do the coffee can

or put 2 charbaskets together

2 Weber charcoal baskets together for me. It does the job fine, until I get the legit Vortex someday.
That's the easiest & best work around to a vortex.

LiquidOcelot

could cut a chimney in half and remove the handel

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HoosierKettle

Quote from: greenweb on March 02, 2017, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: swamprb on March 02, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
just do the coffee can

or put 2 charbaskets together

2 Weber charcoal baskets together for me. It does the job fine, until I get the legit Vortex someday.

Your too trusting of "known" products. Where do you think the aluminum goes on our aluminized steel charcoal baskets?  I'm not worried about the baskets but I would recommend burning a chimney through them before using new ones. Same applies for a stainless bowl or tin can. I would be fine with either after burning them in. I do stay away from galvanized for the reason you stated but even galvanized once good and burned I bet would be safe. Still don't recommend that. Any other form of steel I would be comfortable with once broke in.


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HoosierKettle


Quote from: LiquidOcelot on March 02, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
could cut a chimney in half and remove the handel

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I haven't done that but have always thought that would work perfect


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LiquidOcelot

Quote from: HoosierKettle on March 02, 2017, 08:07:58 AM

Quote from: LiquidOcelot on March 02, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
could cut a chimney in half and remove the handel

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I haven't done that but have always thought that would work perfect


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yup just get a cheap one no need to cut a well made weber in half lol

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walley_eye

All good points here.

I will say simply this about the comment about trusting known products, just because a product is sold on mass with a name brand label on doesn't mean I trust in it.

There are plenty of companies that don't deserve consumers trust based on what they do or don't tell us about their products. This is in no way a comment on the manufacturers of the vortex. Just an overall opinion about industry in general.

My coffee can has been burnt with charcoal using it to do the minion method in my other charcoal smoker so it's in about as good a shape as my chimney.

Thanks for all the ideas and opinions.

Keeper commin'!


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swamprb

Quote from: walley_eye on March 02, 2017, 08:39:05 AM
All good points here.

I will say simply this about the comment about trusting known products, just because a product is sold on mass with a name brand label on doesn't mean I trust in it.

There are plenty of companies that don't deserve consumers trust based on what they do or don't tell us about their products. This is in no way a comment on the manufacturers of the vortex. Just an overall opinion about industry in general.

My coffee can has been burnt with charcoal using it to do the minion method in my other charcoal smoker so it's in about as good a shape as my chimney.

Thanks for all the ideas and opinions.

Keeper commin'!


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I got a S/S veggie pan from Business Costco for $9, any Restaurant supply will have these. I cut it in two and got one vtex for an 18" and the other for a 22"

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