First Ash Pan

[SixZeroFour]

Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious here but did anyone else notice this is actually depicting a hinged leg system? Looks like the front leg disconnected from the bowl and then whole triangle assembly could be folded flat... very cool!

[SixZeroFour]

And I wonder if this Richard Kates fellow is still around! He would be an interesting man to talk to.

[dazzo]

Yeah, that's what buckie pointed out...

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/if-there-all-1956s-models-then/msg137849/#msg137849

[SixZeroFour]

Ahh yes, indeed he did! I had just come from that thread so I have no idea how I missed that 

[dazzo]

That's why I bow down to buckie.

[Idahawk]

Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious here but did anyone else notice this is actually depicting a hinged leg system? Looks like the front leg disconnected from the bowl and then whole triangle assembly could be folded flat... very cool!

Here's the other 2 pages of that thing ?




Not sure what the point of showing a non Weber grill is , but I'll play along

[MrHoss]

I bow down to buckie.

Me too...I'm just careful when I do.

[dazzo]

   

[Troy]

I don't think the patent is even relevant.
http://www.google.com/patents/US3111337

It's not a Weber Patent.
It's not for the ash pan, it's for a method of attaching foldable legs.

[Troy]

    It's not hard to find the answer to this question, just contact Marty and ask him to ask his source from the Drawing company weber used what year they starting drawing the ash pans ? It's likely they used the same company for the bowls and lids along with the ash pans.

@MartyG ? Or a different Marty?

I doubt we'll get anything more than memory, but its certainly worth a shot.

[Idahawk]

How about a early demo picture with the rounded ash pan in it ? Got one of those ?

[MartyG]

This Marty. The guy I met with (as did several other members) and interviewed owned the company that made Weber's first stamped (drawn) kettles around 1954. I'll reach out to see what he may know about the pans.

[1buckie]

Not sure what the point of showing a non Weber grill is , but I'll play along

I found that stuff looking under Weber patents........surely not something they put out under their name, but perhaps a one off production like the Sears Econo models>>>?

.....or, another possibility might be scooping up patents so they somehow don't later compete>>>?


Also, if you look closely, it's a patent ONLY for the leg system, not necessarily the actual bowl section.....

[1buckie]

Here's the Bluey.........

[Troy]

I found that stuff looking under Weber patents........surely not something they put out under their name, but perhaps a one off production like the Sears Econo models>>>?

.....or, another possibility might be scooping up patents so they somehow don't later compete>>>?


Also, if you look closely, it's a patent ONLY for the leg system, not necessarily the actual bowl section.....

Yep, there are a few weber patents that list this patent as a citation.

However, patent citations don't imply any usage of design or technology. Citations are supplied by the applicant to help the Patent Trademark Office better understand the application.
It's simply a reference.