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Title: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on May 03, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
Through the help of a long-time grillfella here I was pointed in the direction of this beauty. He said with the wide wooden slats it was likely a first generation from Weber. Anybody have any insight? I'll probably get it this weekend and see how she looks. Hopefully the innards are in good shape.


Edit: Lol looking at the pic I put up I guess it's a Genesis II? Is the difference between a II and III the size? Any idea on the year? TIA.



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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: JEBIV on May 03, 2018, 12:16:55 PM
Good looking gasser, I like the wide slats on those models
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on May 03, 2018, 12:31:52 PM
Nice! Yes, wide slabs = first gen. Also, the way the white walls come right out to the edge, the black controls, etc.

I'm guessing II vs III is whether or not it came with a side burner? Your frame has the space ... in subsequent generations they did not include a longer frame for models that did not come with the side burner.

On the other hand, I'm only guessing about all of that.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Bob BQ on May 03, 2018, 06:29:45 PM
Based on the wheels alone, it should be early to mid 80s. Those are the best looking Weber wheels IMO... love the wide white wall!


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 03, 2018, 06:59:03 PM
Cool thanks for the info guys. I know zero about Weber gassers but I'm ready to learn.
So a first generation Genesis II maybe since no side burner, from early to mid '80s. Got it thanks.
Title: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Bob BQ on May 03, 2018, 07:06:53 PM
Looks like the Genesis debuted in Ď85. Give this a read.... https://www.weber.com/US/en/blog/behind-the-grill/class-of85-the-creators-of-the-genesis/weber-30515.html

@SixZeroFour @LightningBoldtz  - can either of you help us out pinpointing the age of this Genesis?


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 04, 2018, 06:56:02 AM
That was a good read @Bob BQ thanks.


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 04, 2018, 06:58:22 AM
Does that manual in the plastic have the serial # printed at the top right corner?    It will give you the age via the Age guide.  Should be able to enter the number at Weber and get the model.

Or, there should be a label/badge that you can see once you lift off the control panel cover.  Hopefully it's still there and the print is legible.

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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Kneab on May 04, 2018, 07:02:03 AM
Nice gasser.
The castings for the sides of the lid may have stamps inside with the year. Also cookbox may have a number casted along side where the drip rail slides are.

And those wheels are the nicest. I have a set of those on my Gen2 Performer.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 04, 2018, 05:46:37 PM
Does that manual in the plastic have the serial # printed at the top right corner?    It will give you the age via the Age guide.  Should be able to enter the number at Weber and get the model.

Or, there should be a label/badge that you can see once you lift off the control panel cover.  Hopefully it's still there and the print is legible.

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It does. As soon as I get it from my agent I'll post up the serial #. Thanks.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: DellJones on May 05, 2018, 01:00:53 AM
 NICE GENNY!!!  Congrats


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 05, 2018, 04:38:31 AM
Very cool!


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 09, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
@Rub

Based on the schematics, it looks like the Genny3 had a side burner, the Genny2 did not.  Otherwise, they are the same.

https://www.weber.com/US/en/help/schematics/browse.aspx?model=431001

https://www.weber.com/US/en/help/schematics/browse.aspx?model=471001


Did she make it to you yet ?  If not, did you get the SN from your agent ?



Also, best I can pin the year down to is between 85 and 92.  85 being the launch year of the Genny and I know that the Genny 1000 was definitely available in 93 (not sure about earlier).
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: jcnaz on May 09, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Rub, that is definitely a Genesis II and a very early production model at that.
The wide slats that run lengthwise on the lower frame are the same as mine. The frame itself is all welded; no sections held together with threaded inserts.
Mine had a serial number from 1985.

I am biased, but I think that 13 bar gennys are the best gassers ever.
I put SS bars from RCPlanebuyer in mine and it is great!
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 11, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
Great info thanks guys. Iím going to look at those RCPs. I take possession tomorrow and will get the serial number then. Thanks!


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: chiku18 on May 11, 2018, 12:00:22 PM
Rub - @Jon Tofte (FL Gas Grill Guru)  should be able to advise .
This is going to be great score.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 13, 2018, 09:00:20 AM
Got it! He forgot to bring the ownerís manual and cookbook but Iíll get them later. This thing is pretty slick! Built like a tank, heavy, and nice features. Has like a weight scale to estimate how much propane is left. Also a meat temp guide that refers to ďrareĒ as 140 lol. Lava rocks and charcoal on a grate over the flavorizer bars. Is it even supposed to have a grate there? Once I get her cleaned up I can see it being one of my go-tos. Is there a cover that will fit it? Hereís some pics before I clean.


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on May 13, 2018, 09:04:53 AM
No, get rid of that grate with the lava and charcoal sitting on it.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 13, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
Holy smokes!  She's beautiful!     As ATS said, lose the charcoal, grate and lava rock and then decide where to go from there.   Check the burner tubes and see if they are solid.  Hook up a propane tank and fire it up.  This will help check the regulator, valves and tubes.  If the crossover tube happens to be shot, try lighting the other tubes manually.



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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 13, 2018, 06:06:54 PM
Holy smokes!  She's beautiful!     As ATS said, lose the charcoal, grate and lava rock and then decide where to go from there.   Check the burner tubes and see if they are solid.  Hook up a propane tank and fire it up.  This will help check the regulator, valves and tubes.  If the crossover tube happens to be shot, try lighting the other tubes manually.
Got it cleaned up, scrubbed out and fired up. Everything works as it should. Flavorizer bars need to be replaced. I put it back together and grilled a pair of Mother's Day prime ribeyes. Tomorrow I'll do some touchup painting and see about refinishing the redwood. I'm loving this Genny. I tried to use the Weber site and add this grill to my grills and learn the year but the prefix isn't listed. Any insight? L3 - 048690


(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/13/IMG_1148.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fvz)


Cleaned out 30+ years of crud
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Bars are in rough shape. I see some SS ones in my near future.
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Burn out the old!
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The red color change
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I love all of the work surfaces they give you!
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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 13, 2018, 07:16:16 PM
I'd give Weber a call and let them try to register it.    Clean up looks nice.   Not sure what you did the cookbox with, but it looks pretty good.  If you want to get it really nice and shiny, hit it with an angle grinder and a cup wire brush.  and watch it shine.

When touching up, be careful on the end caps and the outside of the cookbox.  it's a textured surface that no one I know has found a way to replicate.  You have to remove the flaking paint of course, but do so with a very light touch.   Then hit with some High Heat Ultra from Rustoleum.  it's semi glossy and has a nice look.

To retouch the Weber Logo plate, it's easiest if you can take it off, but it's not absolutely necessary.    Spray the whole front of it with the same Rusto then put it face down on some ultra fine grit sandpaper and move it back and forth.   The paint on the highest layer will get removed and leave the Logo looking stunning.

Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 13, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
And once again, DAYUM.  That is a pretty looking grill !!
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 14, 2018, 06:39:42 PM
Rub, that is definitely a Genesis II and a very early production model at that.
The wide slats that run lengthwise on the lower frame are the same as mine. The frame itself is all welded; no sections held together with threaded inserts.
Mine had a serial number from 1985.

I am biased, but I think that 13 bar gennys are the best gassers ever.
I put SS bars from RCPlanebuyer in mine and it is great!
JC yours looks fantastic! Do you remember what you did to the redwood? I want to refinish mine then do something to it to keep it from getting water stains etc.


Thanks very much @demosthenes9 I appreciate it. I appreciate your tips too. I don't really notice a texture on the cook box though. It looks easy enough to take the cast parts off to clean and spray paint. And the logo plate idea is awesome. I'm afraid if I take it off I'll never get it back on as snug as it is now, so I'll probably do it where it is.


I emailed Weber with the serial number and they had a fairly generic response. Pretty sure you guys knew more than this cat.
"Hello Rub, Thanks for reaching out to us. Based on the photo and serial number, you have a Genesis 2 LP, model # 431001, made between 1985 and 1992."

Thanks for the help you guys.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 14, 2018, 07:57:34 PM


Rub, that is definitely a Genesis II and a very early production model at that.
The wide slats that run lengthwise on the lower frame are the same as mine. The frame itself is all welded; no sections held together with threaded inserts.
Mine had a serial number from 1985.

I am biased, but I think that 13 bar gennys are the best gassers ever.
I put SS bars from RCPlanebuyer in mine and it is great!
JC yours looks fantastic! Do you remember what you did to the redwood? I want to refinish mine then do something to it to keep it from getting water stains etc.


Thanks very much @demosthenes9 I appreciate it. I appreciate your tips too. I don't really notice a texture on the cook box though. It looks easy enough to take the cast parts off to clean and spray paint. And the logo plate idea is awesome. I'm afraid if I take it off I'll never get it back on as snug as it is now, so I'll probably do it where it is.


I emailed Weber with the serial number and they had a fairly generic response. Pretty sure you guys knew more than this cat.
"Hello Rub, Thanks for reaching out to us. Based on the photo and serial number, you have a Genesis 2 LP, model # 431001, made between 1985 and 1992."

Thanks for the help you guys.

You're welcome Rub..  It's possible that I'm mistaken about texture.  Perhaps it's just on the end caps or maybe it's all smooth. On Gennys I've dealt with, it feels like there's a little sand or something mixed in with the paint.  It definitely doesn't feel the same as the smooth aluminum inside the cook box.

Ill see if I can dig up some photos showing what I'm talking about. Pee than a few of them have been posted over at TVWBB. 

For the logo plate, you can do it where it is, just be very careful when sanding.  I'd reend a sandpaper block quite a bit larger than the logo plate so that you can be sure to sand flat and level. I screwed one of these up as well. And the logo surface was noticeably uneven.

Lastly, on the age of the grill.  Unfortunately, Weber didn't tie date info into the serial numbers on this Gen.  That came later.

Chris Allingham, over at TVWBB has done some research on I and wrote about it here....

https://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?70576-Deciphering-Old-Weber-Gas-Grill-Serial-Numbers




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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on May 15, 2018, 04:18:55 AM
Isn't the logo plate just bolted on from the back side?
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 15, 2018, 08:18:57 AM
Isn't the logo plate just bolted on from the back side?

They usually have a ring compression clip or whatever it's called.  Basically, same thing that locks the wheels on the axle, but without the plastic.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: 56MPG on May 15, 2018, 08:26:01 AM
Correct. Easy to break them if you take off the badge, but they can be found at a well-stocked hardware store. I've done it a few times. I have occasional had a bear of a time getting the bolts on the end panels to break free. The early ones used actual solid nuts which can freeze up, and it's tough to keep the heads from spinning in the end panel. later models used a stamped nut thing that comes off much easier.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: jcnaz on May 15, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
Rub, that is definitely a Genesis II and a very early production model at that.
The wide slats that run lengthwise on the lower frame are the same as mine. The frame itself is all welded; no sections held together with threaded inserts.
Mine had a serial number from 1985.

I am biased, but I think that 13 bar gennys are the best gassers ever.
I put SS bars from RCPlanebuyer in mine and it is great!
JC yours looks fantastic! Do you remember what you did to the redwood? I want to refinish mine then do something to it to keep it from getting water stains etc.


Thanks very much @demosthenes9 I appreciate it. I appreciate your tips too. I don't really notice a texture on the cook box though. It looks easy enough to take the cast parts off to clean and spray paint. And the logo plate idea is awesome. I'm afraid if I take it off I'll never get it back on as snug as it is now, so I'll probably do it where it is.


I emailed Weber with the serial number and they had a fairly generic response. Pretty sure you guys knew more than this cat.
"Hello Rub, Thanks for reaching out to us. Based on the photo and serial number, you have a Genesis 2 LP, model # 431001, made between 1985 and 1992."

Thanks for the help you guys.
Rub, I sanded the original wood and hit it with some spare varnish.
It hasn't held up in the Arizona sun, so I will wind up redoing it.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Kneab on May 15, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
Rub, these are pictures of the date stamps from my Genesis jr. The first one is from the sides of the lid and the second one is from the bottom of the cookbox right in the front by where the drip pan slides out. The Genesis 1 that I restored was from 86, it had the dates casted in it also. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 17, 2018, 04:20:54 AM
Thanks guys. I got the end panels off easily yesterday and got a coat of HHU on the outside. Looks like theyíll benefit from another coat.

I also found the date stamp, thanks @Kneab . I was a little disappointed to see it was an Ď87. I was hoping for Ď85. But regardless Iím enjoying this grill a lot and the resto. New ss bars come in tomorrow. I bought some Olympic stain and sealer in one for the woodwork and Iíll get on that this weekend. I guess Iíll sand and repaint the frame while Iím at it. Thanks again everyone for the tips and help!


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Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: JEBIV on May 17, 2018, 05:02:31 AM
he has skills other than awesome brisket and pork butts, way to go @Rub
Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 17, 2018, 05:07:00 AM
Thanks guys. I got the end panels off easily yesterday and got a coat of HHU on the outside. Looks like theyíll benefit from another coat.

I also found the date stamp, thanks @Kneab . I was a little disappointed to see it was an Ď87. I was hoping for Ď85. But regardless Iím enjoying this grill a lot and the resto. New ss bars come in tomorrow. I bought some Olympic stain and sealer in one for the woodwork and Iíll get on that this weekend. I guess Iíll sand and repaint the frame while Iím at it. Thanks again everyone for the tips and help!


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Can't wait to see the finished results.   Sure, 85 would have been great, but this one is still very nice.  One of the oldest ones I have seen.  Don't know if it's in the plans, but you might want to replace the nuts and bolts with SS ones. 

Title: Re: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID
Post by: Rub on May 20, 2018, 01:58:13 PM
It's been raining every day here for 2 weeks straight, making any resto efforts a challenge. But I think I'm done, for now anyway. First of all thanks to everyone here and at TVWBB for the info and tips. They saved me countless hours of work and research. I am no restoration guru by any stretch of the imagination, so it was all very helpful. And I'm really happy with the way it turned out.

I started by taking all of the wood off and numbering each piece. Then it all got a light sanding and a coat of Olympic Maximum Stain and Sealant in One. I wanted something that would be somewhat weatherproof so my cold beer wouldn't leave a ring. This fits the bill and I really like the color.
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The metal brackets that hold the wood all had some rust bubbles under the paint, so I took a razor scrapper to them and exposed everything. I put these parts in some EvapoRust overnight and it dod a pretty good job. I the endcaps off the hood and lightly sanded them with 400 grit, and removed and cleaned the thermometer.
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I kept taking parts off the frame until it was completely stripped. I hadn't noticed all of the subterranean rust bubbles under the paint before on the frame, so that added an extra hour or so exposing and scrapping those parts. In hindsight I wish I would have sanded and feathered the good paint to bare metal edges better as they show up some after the repaint. I hit the exposed parts with a Rustoleum product that neutralizes rust, then sprayed the entire cart with their HH Ultra, which was the same thing I used on the end caps. Everything got 2-3 coats.

For the fire box I was going to use Rustoleum HH (1200*) flat, but then I saw they have a 2000* flat with a 'no peel' guarantee. Sounded perfect so I gave it a try. So far so good.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/20/IMG_1341.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOd)

I cleaned up some rust spots on the control panel and hit them with the neutralizer paint, then 0000'd the overspray off. I put everything back together and was damn happy to not have any leftover screws! Oh yeah, I painted all of the hardware too.
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Once I had it all together I hooked the tank back up, hit the ignitor, and nothing. Damn, it worked before. I guess it's going to be stick lighters for a while. At least the burners still work.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/20/IMG_1392.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fO4)

I'm really happy with the way it turned out. I was originally going to paint the fire box HHU too, but I like the contrast I get with the flat. I've bought and put in the recommended SS flavorizer bars. Forgot a pic but you know what they look like. All that's left is to probably improve the cook grates with something different, and find a decent cover.

I upgraded my phone/camera recently so I went a little crazy playing with the portrait setting. Here's the finished pics. It's still raining but it let up for 10 minutes and I took some quickly. So here is my 1987 Weber Genesis II, bought for $75 at the estate sale of the deceased former mayor of Winter Garden, FL.
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If you look closely you can see the rain beading up, mission accomplished.
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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: mhiszem on May 20, 2018, 03:07:21 PM
Looks great. Grate job!


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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on May 20, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
Excellent!
Title: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: chiku18 on May 20, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
You have Super restorer Skills- looking like new ,Rub.
Thinking to drop some of my kettles for ur RRR love .


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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Mr.CPHo on May 20, 2018, 04:30:17 PM
That looks really awesome, Rub.  Great restoration.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Foster Dahlet on May 20, 2018, 05:30:34 PM
'Tis a beauty

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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: JEBIV on May 21, 2018, 08:18:47 AM
Beautiful
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Post by: captjoe06 on May 22, 2018, 09:50:38 AM
Whoaaaa
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Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on May 22, 2018, 10:29:28 AM
Whoa what a great restoration! Beautiful job Rub!

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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: jdorn on May 22, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Wow, great work! Beautiful

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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: DellJones on May 22, 2018, 12:56:26 PM
WOW!!!  Very Nice!!!! [emoji41][emoji106]🏾[emoji106]🏾


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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: RottiGuy on May 23, 2018, 12:16:51 AM
Great job ...

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Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: qrczak1 on May 23, 2018, 12:43:57 AM
Really nice restoration, congrats!
Title: Re: Updated 5/20: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on May 23, 2018, 04:34:28 AM
Thanks very much guys. I'm finding a quality gasser can be a nice distraction from charcoal every now and then. I grilled up a couple  of cap-on sirloins last night for dinner. It was a first time for these for me and I learned a big lesson - you need to remove a lot of the fat cap before grilling or you'll have a fire. I won't make that mistake again, I killed one of my temp probes lol.

Redhead gassers have the same color change as kettles.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1445.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOY)
DOTS monitor the ITs, perfect slots in the side of the cook chamber for the wires.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1448.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOx)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1450.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOs)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1462.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOm)
128* gave nice, rare meat.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1468.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOn)
Lots of beef flavor and very tender.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1469.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOu)
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: demosthenes9 on May 23, 2018, 05:47:43 AM
Nice cook.  Good gassers really do rock, I don't care what the "purists" say.  No muss, no fuss.   Open the tank valve, crank the knobs, fire the ignitor and in less than 10 minutes (probably 5), you're cooking.



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Title: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 23, 2018, 06:20:36 AM
Great looking plate and grill!  It looks like your old genny gets a lot hotter than my little 2 burner old spirit. Thatís one thing Iíve been disappointed about.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on May 23, 2018, 06:39:32 AM
Great looking plate and grill!  It looks like your old genny gets a lot hotter than my little 2 burner old spirit. Thatís one thing Iíve been disappointed about.


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It does get pretty hot. This was after about 7 minutes. I'm guessing 650+ degrees.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 23, 2018, 06:49:04 AM

Great looking plate and grill!  It looks like your old genny gets a lot hotter than my little 2 burner old spirit. Thatís one thing Iíve been disappointed about.


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It does get pretty hot. This was after about 7 minutes. I'm guessing 650+ degrees.


(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1444.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fOc)

Yeah I can leave mine on high for 20 minutes and the hottest it gets is 550. The second I start opening the lid and using it, it cooks around the 400-450 range.  Not bad but not nearly as hot as I would like. Itís hard to get a good sear.




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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: michaelmilitello on May 23, 2018, 09:01:13 AM
Looks like the Genesis debuted in Ď85. Give this a read.... https://www.weber.com/US/en/blog/behind-the-grill/class-of85-the-creators-of-the-genesis/weber-30515.html

@SixZeroFour @LightningBoldtz  - can either of you help us out pinpointing the age of this Genesis?


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I believe a call to Weber with the serial number can reveal the year.   


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on May 23, 2018, 09:27:01 AM
I believe a call to Weber with the serial number can reveal the year.   

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I emailed it to Weber CS and they said between '85 and '92. I found a stamp in the cook box showing 1987.
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: mhiszem on May 23, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Nice cook!


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: jimbo7070 on May 23, 2018, 11:18:10 AM



(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/03/genesi.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fiL)

The serial number is also on the top right of the manual. Does this number match the āL3...Ď one you found?



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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on May 23, 2018, 07:41:23 PM



(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/03/genesi.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fiL)

The serial number is also on the top right of the manual. Does this number match the āL3...Ď one you found?



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Yep, same # as the tag on the frame. I'm still waiting to get it from my nephew, but they sent me this pic.


(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1480.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fgX)

(http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/[url=http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fgX]http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/05/23/IMG_1480.jpg[/url])
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: jcnaz on May 24, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
That came out beautiful!
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: XRichard23 on June 07, 2018, 08:56:53 PM
Man thatís gorgeous. Great job


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on June 28, 2018, 07:02:27 AM
Update
The High Heat Ultra Rust-Oleum black paint I did the end caps with is failing. Itís getting tacky and transferring onto the inside of the grill cover, then getting onto the lid. Iíve never covered it hot. Anyone see this before? Disappointed in it.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Kneab on June 28, 2018, 07:20:25 AM
Did you heat it up and let it cure a few times before covering it?

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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on June 28, 2018, 09:52:27 AM
Yes, probably 4-5 times.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Brian ATL on June 28, 2018, 03:53:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MFIfTme.jpg

Does it look like this I also had an issue with that paint but it is hard to trace down.  So what happened with my 1000 was it ended up having a nat gas manifold they just  stuck a regulator on it fired it up thing went past 700 and pretty much the lid sides were toasted.  Ended up getting a propane manifold from another member on the other gasser forum.

However could have been other issues with that paint and it was in the prep, had done what I thought was a good job using simple green to degrease it and took care to rinse it but I did not wipe it down when I was done with acetone or denatured alcohol and I think this was an issue.  Thru some searching I did recently I came across on a painting metal site that simple green can leave a slight film so it needs to be wiped down with a solvent before painting.

Because I was so unhappy just took the lid apart I have a performer also so was not without a grill.  I took my wire cup brush and just took it down to pure metal as you know there is a texture on those lids and nobody has been able to replicate it.  Then the usual used simple green and rinsed off then wiped it down with acetone.  What I would tell you as I originally thought was the simple green and a good rinse was enough for prep it was not when I wiped it down with the acetone it still was picking up the  remnants of that black paint I had wire brushed off. 

I just sprayed them last week putting it back together use 900 degree caliper paint high gloss it is and a pain since like any gloss paints its multiple coats to get it to look a uniform gloss.  I did not get them perfect but pretty good and it is grilling season so need to get her done.  I can update the results in a few months if anyone is interested and I will take a picture of the way they turned out.

They have been using the rust ultra for many a restore over there personally I was not happy with it could be me being a lousy spray painter.  But Jon has recently been trying the Krylon Paint which is more difficult to find but here is a link https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/00264853.

I wanted to try it myself I knew about it but my local HD and Lowes did not carry it.



Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on June 29, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
Mine looked fine until the cover laid on it. That's when the problem became evident. I will try contacting Rust-oleum and see what they say.
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 29, 2018, 07:29:31 AM
Mine looked fine until the cover laid on it. That's when the problem became evident. I will try contacting Rust-oleum and see what they say.

I had something similar happen when I refinished an original Weber wood handle.  I gave all three handles two coats of Helmsman spar varnish.  Let them dry for two days and then put them back on the kettle and covered it with a Weber cover.  Couple of days later I uncovered it and found the lid handle had the fabric impression in the varnish. The varnish did not turn sticky though. Maybe something to do with the sun heating the cover and somehow softening the paint?  Chemical reaction? 
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Rub on June 29, 2018, 02:16:30 PM
Yep that's exactly how it looks and went Jim. But this is supposed to be 800-1200 degree paint. I don't think it gets much hotter than 500 here in central FL in the summer lol. I have a feeling I'll be stripping it down to bare metal again.
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Post by: Brian ATL on June 29, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
Rub I still think it was an adhesion problem.  However you are in FL humidity is an issue both the Krylon and the Rustoleum if you try to spray it with more than 85% humidity its an issue as both recommend you don't do that so not sure that was the case when you sprayed it.

The ultra is good for 648 continuous yes it can take a spike to 1200 the Krylon is 600 take a spike to 1200 that is not an issue with the 1000's they generally get to 550 and change.  Its a can of worms when you take them down to bare metal which I just did by the way with the cup brush need to rub it down with acetone after using simple green or whatever to degrease it and you need to use more paint.  I have not used the Krylon before which I had seen it because that paint can be re-coated at anytime unlike the ultra. 

I am new here you just stated that yours looked like Cells how do you view pictures in these threads I can rarely see them.
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Post by: Kneab on July 03, 2018, 02:57:58 PM
Rub, I just looked over my Jr that I had also refinished with the high heat ultra and found the same thing happening. But not where the cover would be touching it. I don't remember how hot or humid it was when I repainted it. Maybe the paint doesn't like to stick to smooth cast aluminum very well.

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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: SixZeroFour on July 03, 2018, 03:31:19 PM
Yes that rust-o-lem branded high heat paint is no good... as you guys have found out it never truly hardens so every time it gets up to temp it becomes slightly tacky again.

Here at Home Depot in Canada they sell this one:

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.dhsRbrilQYsiQbP-dQOpYAHaHa)
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.high-heat-rust-paint---gloss-black-340g-aerosol.1000406051.html (https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.high-heat-rust-paint---gloss-black-340g-aerosol.1000406051.html)

oddly enough rust-o-lem also manufactures TREMCLAD, but I've had much better success with this one. Might be worth a try if you can find some down your way.
Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: avega2792 on August 08, 2018, 03:33:46 AM
That resto came out beautifully!
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Post by: Rub on November 23, 2018, 11:03:23 AM
I finally got the Owner's Manual/Recipe book yesterday. It includes directions on assembly from the bottom up. I can see how that would have turned a lot of people off. I like this fold out picture of the grill. The wood they show is much lighter than I expected, I like the darker look better.


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Title: Re: Updated 5/23: My 1st Weber Gasser, help with ID - Finished Pics added
Post by: Dave in KC on November 23, 2018, 04:08:31 PM
Rub, you have a real classic there.  Very nice addition to your kettle collection.