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Title: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 13, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
Since I keep seeing people ask what to do when using a SnS I figured I could show my technique.

As you can see in the pics I put a layer of foil on the cook side. Keeps the inside of the kettle almost perfectly clean and it helps keep the air flow straight to the coals.

Next I start about a dozen coals in my chimney. Sometimes KBB and sometimes Weber doesn't matter what brand really.

Once they are ashed over I pile them into 1 corner of the SnS and use my tongs to stack them. Then I fill the remaining space with unlit coals to the top of the SnS.

Place your thermometer on the grill, make sure all vents are 100% open and close it up. I don't use the water trough anymore. Didnt like how it ran with it. I find it easier without filling it.

Let the heat climb to 200f and close bottom vent to half. It levels off at around 220 to 230f. And then open it and place your meat on. I use rib racks to maximize usable space.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: michaelmilitello on June 13, 2020, 06:41:46 PM
Nice job!   


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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Kneab on June 13, 2020, 06:56:04 PM
Nice write up.
I do mine in a similar way except I fill the coals all the way up to the grate and then put my wood chunks on top of the grate for a little extra burn time.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: JEBIV on June 15, 2020, 04:58:47 AM
good looking setup
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mike Huff on June 15, 2020, 01:26:14 PM
Wildonion Thanks for taking the time to show this. I just got my 26 and I'm waiting on the SnS. This will be a big help!

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 15, 2020, 01:35:47 PM
Wildonion Thanks for taking the time to show this. I just got my 26 and I'm waiting on the SnS. This will be a big help!

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No problem dude.  And the SnS is a great product. I'm using one I built for my 22 but it works just as good in my 26'r.
  I even tried cooking wings in my 22 without it just banking the coals and I never got close to the same temps. The SnS makes better wings IMO hands down.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mike Huff on June 15, 2020, 05:00:28 PM
Right on...I have to get one. So auction and the SnS..I read on the forum somewhere about the "old" And verses the new, is that the deluxe? Which one do I need? I thought I saw where the need one doesn't burn the briquets as well because the sh doesn't fall as well? Am I sounding crazy?

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 15, 2020, 05:07:51 PM
Right on...I have to get one. So auction and the SnS..I read on the forum somewhere about the "old" And verses the new, is that the deluxe? Which one do I need? I thought I saw where the need one doesn't burn the briquets as well because the sh doesn't fall as well? Am I sounding crazy?

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I didn't build mine with the bottom grate. Havent noticed anything detrimental when I cook. Get whichever is cheapest lol

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mike Huff on June 15, 2020, 06:07:15 PM
Right on! Lol

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 15, 2020, 06:33:28 PM
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 03:01:24 AM
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.
I've used several brands, and haven't noticed any real difference in flavour or Temps. Sure it smokes more when lighting but I'm not cooking on it while it is.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 05:47:09 AM
@Darko - Do you think KBB is better or worse than, say, Weber Briquettes?

I'd like to try B&B but hard to find in Canada.
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: HoosierKettle on June 16, 2020, 06:01:25 AM

@Darko - Do you think KBB is better or worse than, say, Weber Briquettes?

I'd like to try B&B but hard to find in Canada.
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.

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Lol. Can’t wait for his response. I have no problem with it. I’ve been using kingsford professional lately though.


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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 06:04:42 AM

Well, my naivety is bliss.   


@Darko - Do you think KBB is better or worse than, say, Weber Briquettes?

I'd like to try B&B but hard to find in Canada.
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.

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Lol. Can’t wait for his response. I have no problem with it. I’ve been using kingsford professional lately though.


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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 06:06:00 AM

@Darko - Do you think KBB is better or worse than, say, Weber Briquettes?

I'd like to try B&B but hard to find in Canada.
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.

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Lol. Can’t wait for his response. I have no problem with it. I’ve been using kingsford professional lately though.


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I use the professional if its available, but lately its been out of stock. If you allow the grill to get up to temp and then stablize, the smoke disappears and it burns as clean as any of the other brands. I've watched a few comparisons on YouTube and there is minimal differences. The weber coals do last longer but the briquettes are shaped differently. And if I'm doing shorter cooks it doesn't matter. A full SnS of KBB lasts like 8 hrs which is more than long enough for ribs, chicken, reverse sear steak etc....

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 06:14:11 AM
Thanks.  The Weber Briquettes are big.


@Darko - Do you think KBB is better or worse than, say, Weber Briquettes?

I'd like to try B&B but hard to find in Canada.
Nice write up except for saying that using KBB instead of other briquettes doesn't matter.

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Lol. Can’t wait for his response. I have no problem with it. I’ve been using kingsford professional lately though.


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I use the professional if its available, but lately its been out of stock. If you allow the grill to get up to temp and then stablize, the smoke disappears and it burns as clean as any of the other brands. I've watched a few comparisons on YouTube and there is minimal differences. The weber coals do last longer but the briquettes are shaped differently. And if I'm doing shorter cooks it doesn't matter. A full SnS of KBB lasts like 8 hrs which is more than long enough for ribs, chicken, reverse sear steak etc....

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 06:16:18 AM
If it wasn't for the sales on KBB the Weber is cheaper. The KBB is like 1.25 per lb and the weber is 1buck per lb. I buy whats on sale, lol I have 100lbs of charcoal in my shed at the moment.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 16, 2020, 07:33:37 AM
@WildonionAB , If I lived in your neck of the woods, I'd sooner go to a cattle ranch and get a bunch of cow pies, in place of KBB.

All kidding aside. Here in Ontario we don't have that big a selection. What I see on a regular basis is Maple Leaf briquettes, Royal Oak briquettes, Weber and Kingsford blue. Of all of those to me Kingsford smells awful is the smokiest and leaves the most ash. Plus it's never on sale and is the most expensive per pound. I use mostly maple leaf briquettes so I'm more used to that sweet mild smell of maple rather than the heavier smell of the others. Royal Oak & Weber are a mix of Oak and hickory so smell a bit stronger but not unpleasant. I think what gets me with the KBB is the coal dust they use in the blend.

I use lump about 85 percent of the time so based on price per pound here KBB is a complete no go. Now, If we in Canada had those great sales like they do in the US I'm sure I could get used to Kingsford.
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 07:36:11 AM
I'm in Ontario too, and so this answer was especially helpful!

@WildonionAB , If I lived in your neck of the woods, I'd sooner go to a cattle ranch and get a bunch of cow pies, in place of KBB.

All kidding aside. Here in Ontario we don't have that big a selection. What I see on a regular basis is Maple Leaf briquettes, Royal Oak briquettes, Weber and Kingsford blue. Of all of those to me Kingsford smells awful is the smokiest and leaves the most ash. Plus it's never on sale and is the most expensive per pound. I use mostly maple leaf briquettes so I'm more used to that sweet mild smell of maple rather than the heavier smell of the others. Royal Oak & Weber are a mix of Oak and hickory so smell a bit stronger but not unpleasant. I think what gets me with the KBB is the coal dust they use in the blend.

I use lump about 85 percent of the time so based on price per pound here KBB is a complete no go. Now, If we in Canada had those great sales like they do in the US I'm sure I could get used to Kingsford.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 07:41:42 AM
I've only seen Kingsford, royal oak, weber and No Name brand briquettes. I prefer the Kingsford over royal oak for consistency of the briquettes and the fact that the Kingsford looked properly carbonized and the Royal oak still have uncarbonized chunks showing. The weber are really nice though. If you can get them they are pretty good and cheaper then KBB a lot of the time, but Home Depot keeps putting 16lb bags of KBB on for 12.99.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 16, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 09:31:36 AM
Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 09:37:13 AM
Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 09:39:59 AM
I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 16, 2020, 12:45:33 PM
Fogo, B&B... never seen them.  Actually, I probably shouldn't say that because they may have been at some of the local BBQ stores, but the prices some of these places charge for charcoal is stupid ridiculous. Weber briquettes for 26 bucks...
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 12:48:23 PM
Fogo, B&B... never seen them.  Actually, I probably shouldn't say that because they may have been at some of the local BBQ stores, but the prices some of these places charge for charcoal is stupid ridiculous. Weber briquettes for 26 bucks...
For 26 bucks I'd walk away from the weber to . I buy the cheapest I can find. Except the No Name brand from superstore. Its only to be used in desperate times.

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 16, 2020, 12:51:27 PM
I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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I first started with Maple Leaf, but then switched to Basques(Natures own(100% sugar maple)) then went to Xylo, which Costco started selling last year for like 12.99 for 8kg bags. That was really nice, a mix of maple beech and birch. but then they switched earlier this year to Cowboy lump from mexico for 17.50 for 9 kg. Now they have nothing.
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Darko on June 16, 2020, 12:54:01 PM
Fogo, B&B... never seen them.  Actually, I probably shouldn't say that because they may have been at some of the local BBQ stores, but the prices some of these places charge for charcoal is stupid ridiculous. Weber briquettes for 26 bucks...
For 26 bucks I'd walk away from the weber to . I buy the cheapest I can find. Except the No Name brand from superstore. Its only to be used in desperate times.

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It's Royal Oak, but more expensive. Here I can get Royal Oak for 9 bucks any day of the week for 15.4 lbs.
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: DougWilsonsSlapper on June 16, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
$26 seems crazy.  It's $19 here (in Toronto) and I still think it's pricey, especially for a guy figuring out how and when to reuse charcoal.

Fogo, B&B... never seen them.  Actually, I probably shouldn't say that because they may have been at some of the local BBQ stores, but the prices some of these places charge for charcoal is stupid ridiculous. Weber briquettes for 26 bucks...
For 26 bucks I'd walk away from the weber to . I buy the cheapest I can find. Except the No Name brand from superstore. Its only to be used in desperate times.

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It's Royal Oak, but more expensive. Here I can get Royal Oak for 9 bucks any day of the week for 15.4 lbs.
Title: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mr.CPHo on June 16, 2020, 01:12:32 PM
I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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I first started with Maple Leaf, but then switched to Basques(Natures own(100% sugar maple)) then went to Xylo, which Costco started selling last year for like 12.99 for 8kg bags. That was really nice, a mix of maple beech and birch. but then they switched earlier this year to Cowboy lump from mexico for 17.50 for 9 kg. Now they have nothing.
Right now Costco has a special member event on 80lbs of Kamado Joe XL Big Block Lump for $80 with free shipping.  Ends 6/21.
Title: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mr.CPHo on June 16, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: WildonionAB on June 16, 2020, 01:30:23 PM
I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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I first started with Maple Leaf, but then switched to Basques(Natures own(100% sugar maple)) then went to Xylo, which Costco started selling last year for like 12.99 for 8kg bags. That was really nice, a mix of maple beech and birch. but then they switched earlier this year to Cowboy lump from mexico for 17.50 for 9 kg. Now they have nothing.
Right now Costco has a special member event on 80lbs of Kamado Joe XL Big Block Lump for $80 with free shipping.  Ends 6/21.
I've never seen Costco in Alberta have charcoal. 

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Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: JEBIV on June 17, 2020, 04:00:19 AM
I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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I first started with Maple Leaf, but then switched to Basques(Natures own(100% sugar maple)) then went to Xylo, which Costco started selling last year for like 12.99 for 8kg bags. That was really nice, a mix of maple beech and birch. but then they switched earlier this year to Cowboy lump from mexico for 17.50 for 9 kg. Now they have nothing.
Right now Costco has a special member event on 80lbs of Kamado Joe XL Big Block Lump for $80 with free shipping.  Ends 6/21.
I need a costco membership for that deal !! ship me some Charlie LOL
Title: Re: 26'r SnS how to Tutorial!
Post by: Mr.CPHo on June 17, 2020, 04:25:28 AM

I tried Fogo and Jealous Devil.  I preferred the consistency of the Fogo but the Jealous Devil got hotter --- was great for forward sear steak.  Both are too expensive on an ongoing basis.

My first lump experience was with Woodstock lump.  It was 50-60% chip sized pieces.  That was that.

I've heard a lot about Maple Leaf, and that will be my next.

Have you seen B&B in our part of the world?

Royal Oak is supposed to have those bits. They add up to 10% sawdust to their formula.

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Never seen it in Alberta. They have FOGO at Homedepot but its 30bucks for 20lb

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I first started with Maple Leaf, but then switched to Basques(Natures own(100% sugar maple)) then went to Xylo, which Costco started selling last year for like 12.99 for 8kg bags. That was really nice, a mix of maple beech and birch. but then they switched earlier this year to Cowboy lump from mexico for 17.50 for 9 kg. Now they have nothing.
Right now Costco has a special member event on 80lbs of Kamado Joe XL Big Block Lump for $80 with free shipping.  Ends 6/21.
I need a costco membership for that deal !! ship me some Charlie LOL
We can make it happen, sir.