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Title: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 23, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
Hi All,

Novice question.
Where is the best place to insert the temperature probes into a Weber kettle.
Through the top vent holes (probably a hassle taking the lid off and on).
Just run them on top of the bowl and under the lid.
Drill a hole in the bowl.
Or cut a slot near the top of the bowl so lid fits over them.
When I get my kettle I don't want to stuff it up ;D

cheers.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: iCARRY on August 23, 2017, 01:45:10 AM
I put them between the bowl and lid. Just put the lid down gently and you shouldn't have a problem.


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Joetee on August 23, 2017, 02:14:59 AM
I have been putting mine between the bowl and lid. I've seen people cutting the edge of the lid. I'm sure this would weaken it over time.
I just ordered me some probe ports where you drill a hole into the side of the bowl. I haven't fill it yet but am about to soon.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Mkrause on August 23, 2017, 02:56:28 AM
I slotted my wsm. Didn't seem to weaken anything and makes it easy to add or remove probes at any time during a cook. Then you aren't fiddling with hot grates to route a probe through a port or to retrieve a probe that has fallen through the grates.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: james1787 on August 23, 2017, 03:56:44 AM
I just run mine between the lid and bowl. I am just careful / gentle when putting the lid on.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: hawgheaven on August 23, 2017, 05:43:08 AM
I don't run cables anymore. I use my Thermapen for meat temp, and after years of kettling, I just know where the vents should be set. Butt, I do stick a probe (old Maverick 73) in the top vent for a chamber temp check.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: fljoemon on August 23, 2017, 05:54:05 AM
For low n slow cooks, I have run the probe through the bottom vents .. away from the lit charcoal.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: MrHoss on August 23, 2017, 09:05:01 AM
The best place? I can't say as this is still a family friendly board last time I checked. Those wirey thingys are a monster pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Pat G on August 23, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
Between the lid and the bowl for me.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: hawgheaven on August 23, 2017, 12:20:43 PM
The best place? I can't say as this is still a family friendly board last time I checked. Those wirey thingys are a monster pain in the arse.

 :) I got tired of the cable routing... just a friggin mess. Since I bought my Thermapens, I don't need that wiring shit. Lift the lid and poke.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: HoosierKettle on August 23, 2017, 12:25:30 PM

The best place? I can't say as this is still a family friendly board last time I checked. Those wirey thingys are a monster pain in the arse.

 :) I got tired of the cable routing... just a friggin mess. Since I bought my Thermapens, I don't need that wiring shit. Lift the lid and poke.

I completely agree. Lose the wires and set yourself free.


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: kettlebb on August 23, 2017, 12:52:35 PM
I haven't used my Maverick in a few cooks now. I will with brisket just so I'm not too hot but with everything else the oven thermometer on the grate has been great.


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: bear on August 23, 2017, 01:22:02 PM
What's wrong with using the top vent. Simples! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/815eb2787a6feb1306910c7caf3278ef.jpg)
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: MTW524 on August 23, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
What's wrong with using the top vent. Simples! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/815eb2787a6feb1306910c7caf3278ef.jpg)
That is one purtiful grill.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 23, 2017, 03:38:03 PM

The best place? I can't say as this is still a family friendly board last time I checked. Those wirey thingys are a monster pain in the arse.

 :) I got tired of the cable routing... just a friggin mess. Since I bought my Thermapens, I don't need that wiring shit. Lift the lid and poke.

I completely agree. Lose the wires and set yourself free.


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I thought the idea of the temp probes was so that you didn't have to keep lifting the lid to monitor.
If you lift the lid doesn't that bugger up your stable cooking temperature ?

So maybe I would be better to just check how accurate the lid temperature gauge is ( and use that as a guide to cooking temp)
Then after a while quickly open lid whack the thermapen in to check (internal meat temp).

cheers, Gutsit
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: haeffb on August 23, 2017, 03:42:48 PM
+1 for wires between bowl and lid, when I use a thermometer. Which is pretty much only for pork butts these days.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 23, 2017, 04:56:51 PM
I slotted my wsm. Didn't seem to weaken anything and makes it easy to add or remove probes at any time during a cook. Then you aren't fiddling with hot grates to route a probe through a port or to retrieve a probe that has fallen through the grates.

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G' Day Mkrause,

Any chance of a photo of it?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Mkrause on August 23, 2017, 05:09:47 PM
I slotted my wsm. Didn't seem to weaken anything and makes it easy to add or remove probes at any time during a cook. Then you aren't fiddling with hot grates to route a probe through a port or to retrieve a probe that has fallen through the grates.

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G' Day Mkrause,

Any chance of a photo of it?

Cheers.
Sure do! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/4258db96da597da1db6a09c295ca0ecb.jpg)
I used a cut-off wheel to slot it, a small drill bit to round out the bottom, and a small file to clean up the edges.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 23, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
I think that maybe the go Mkrause, Thanks.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Mkrause on August 23, 2017, 05:35:03 PM
I think that maybe the go Mkrause, Thanks.
You're welcome. Little advice... take a little at a time just until you can move the probe wires freely with the lid on. The wheel goes through like a hot knife through butter so it's easy to go too far.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: 29tx on August 23, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
I slotted my wsm. Didn't seem to weaken anything and makes it easy to add or remove probes at any time during a cook. Then you aren't fiddling with hot grates to route a probe through a port or to retrieve a probe that has fallen through the grates.

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G' Day Mkrause,

Any chance of a photo of it?

Cheers.
Sure do!
I used a cut-off wheel to slot it, a small drill bit to round out the bottom, and a small file to clean up the edges.

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Do you need to slot it? Could you just take a grinding wheel and grind a notch in the lid and leave it connected above? I added a picture, just notch up to the red line and leave the material above it intact?

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: qrczak1 on August 23, 2017, 11:19:23 PM
Between bowl and lid. My experience is that the wires last for at least 4 years when doing it like this.
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Troy on August 24, 2017, 12:15:33 AM
i would be careful with the 'between the bowl and lid' advice. Some kettles fit snug enough to damage probe wires, while other kettles fit loose enough to not.

Title: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: vwengguy on August 24, 2017, 01:36:25 AM
I have seen.. from the grills I have had here in Europe .. the older grills have tighter fitting lids.  I have one '96 18" that fits so tight that with out the grates the lid will pick the whole grill off of the ground. No way in hell you would ever get a probe in between it.
New grills .. that's another story. There is so much play in the lids that you could fly a Boeing 747 in the gap.
For this reason I never clean the lip or sealing edge on a new kettle.
As far as cutting a slot in a grill.. I would not do it to the grills I have only because I don't want to risk rust or damage.
If I had a cheap used dedicated smoker then maybe.. but I don't have it now.


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Campwhatnot on August 24, 2017, 03:24:13 AM
Install a ss threaded nipple in the side of the bowl. Cap it off with a threaded plug when probes are not being used.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 24, 2017, 04:24:50 AM
Install a ss threaded nipple in the side of the bowl. Cap it off with a threaded plug when probes are not being used.

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G'Day, Campwhatnot,

Where a bouts in the side of the bowl is best mate ?
Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Campwhatnot on August 24, 2017, 05:15:56 AM
Up near the top lip of the bowl

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: nolch01 on August 24, 2017, 05:42:15 AM
Here was my solution with a threaded lamp tube/nuts and a galvanized cap.  All material was easy to get from the big box store.  I cut a hole above the grate.  Just plan out location around the kettle that works best based on your cooks.   I would place it closer to the handle on my MT I use with the SNS.

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Also added a spot as a holder for the cap when in use
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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Campwhatnot on August 24, 2017, 05:43:45 AM
I'm about to mod my performer as well. I may try the rubber grommet from a Smokey mountain to see how that works. The threaded fitting mod on my master touch works great however.

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: fljoemon on August 24, 2017, 05:48:13 AM
One one of the Facebook groups, someone posted this for channelling the probe wires:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WWGVTYM/
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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: toebone on August 24, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
I go through the top vent then stab it into an onion sitting on the grill so it's at the same height as the food I'm cooking.


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: foshizzle on August 24, 2017, 09:58:18 PM
I found it a real pain on the WSM to put the curved temp probe through the grommet and also taking it back out quickly through the grommet during the cook.  It felt like the temp probe would come apart with the tugging and pushing to get it through the slit.

As some of the other guys did I cut a notch in the middle section so all you have to do is just set the wires into the groove and your good to go.

Here's a video a guy did on notching your grill
https://youtu.be/ouhn2aky0uc


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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: TartanAvenger on August 24, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Can't hurt the wires. I used the iGrill every day and am not careful with it at all. Bowl and lid. . Like everyone else, save for the thermapen guy

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Title: Re: Best place to run the probes into a kettle ?
Post by: Gutsit on August 25, 2017, 04:10:28 AM
Thanks,

A lot of great info here.

cheers.