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Cooking & Food Talk => Pizza Forum => Topic started by: Rhaugle on August 04, 2016, 11:48:20 AM
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Just curious what people think about these 2 options. I will be getting one, and dont mind the price tag of the KettlePizza if it is superior.
Thanks!
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I'm interested in this thread also.
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Anyone?
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I love ourpizzaque, we have had great luck with it and the pizza we have produced far exceeds any takeout we can get around here. Here are a few pics, I actually plan on some more pizza Sunday so maybe I will post more pictures after the next round. All I can say is if you are on the fence you might as well pull the trigger, it is a great excuse to get outside and use your kettle!(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/5a4bc4a42cade3d653c4c8c661a2241d.jpg)
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And one were the weber thermometer actually wrapped all the way around.
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Nice!...what type of charcoal did you use?...i tried in the past found the pizza to smoked
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I used plain old KBB. Basically one full chimney of well lit with another chimney of unlit poured on top. I added a couple apple chucks when I needed some more heat but only need a couple to really get things going.
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I'm more on the fence of which kit to get.. I know I will be getting one or the other.
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Here is my take on this question. I have a Kettle Pizza and have never seen a PizzaQue in person.
If you really like pizza and think you will be doing cooks where you are doing more than one or two pizzas at a time, then I would go with the Kettle Pizza. It is more expensive, but it has more options for add-on accessories if you really get into cooking pizzas. You can add accessories one by one as you get more into making pizzas. You can add the baking steel which allows you add coal/wood easily when you are cooking more than a few pizzas in one cook, the tombstone which is a really high quality stone from what I can tell and also allows you to easily add coal/wood during your cooks, and my favorite add-on is the extension plate so that you can use your KettlePizza on a 26er if you wanted to. I have a 26er and have not gotten this attachment yet, but for $29.95 I'm sure I'll have it sooner than later. With the right stone on a 26er I see no reason you can't do two smaller pizzas at once.
If you think you are only going to be cooking a pizza or two here and there, I see know reason not to go with the PIzzaQue. It has good reviews and seems to work great.
One other difference I just noticed in looking at both options is the width of the opening. The PizzaQue is 15.5" and the Kettle Pizza is 17. Since I don't have the PizzaQue I am not sure if the narrower opening would bother me or not in comparison to the KettlePizza. Initially I was thinking about having enough room for maneuvering pizzas in and out and while they are cooking, but I'm also now wondering if the larger or smaller opening affects heat, fresh airflow, and fuel burn rate. I'm thinking the smaller opening in the PQ might inhibit the airflow needed to get the high temps and flames you are looking for, but at the same time, the smaller opening might help retain more heat so it might even out in the end.
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In my opinion the Pizzaque is a far better value and I personally don't know what the Kettle Pizza can do the the Pizzaque cannot. I do however understand supporting a company that designs and manufactures their products is the US but when I was shopping for something I could not justify the additional costs. Either way you go I can assure you that you will not be disappointed.
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The PizzaQue is $69 with free shipping from Home Despot!
http://www.homedepot.com/p/PizzaQue-Pizza-Kit-for-Kettle-Grills-PC7001/205581858
I was poking around the store and there was one on display and an open box so I checked it out and was pretty surprised at its quality, the expanded metal for the baskets was thin, but thats not an issue for me. It was priced higher than the online link.
Having played around with both my DIY KettlePizza ring and faux Baking Steel lid mod and the @varekai inspired dual lid with cutout, which both work great I might add - I would be inclined to drop the $ on the PQ over the KP. I don't buy into any of the KP "add ons or accessories" other than maybe the Tombstone, but hey thats just me. My buddy loves his KP as do many here.
Either one would be an excellent addition to any kettle.
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Home Depot in St. Louis had the PizzaQue yellow tagged for $56.00 a day ago.
One thing I do not like about the KettlePizza is adding fuel to the fire. I think I'll cut the handles off a hinged grate so I can easily add wood or more coal if needed.
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@blksabbath , I've got a PizzaQue that I have yet to use... we might need to get together and do a side-by-side KP vs PQ cookoff...
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I feel like I redeemed my self this last Saturday. Here are a couple pictures of the pizzas we were able to turn out for my mother in laws birthday party. My lovely wife prepped them as I cooked them, we had a regular assembly line going. Pictures don't to them justice, I need to practice my picture taking skills so I can accurately convey the deliciousness of the food that theses webers can prepare.
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I don't buy into any of the KP "add ons or accessories" other than maybe the Tombstone, but hey thats just me. My buddy loves his KP as do many here.
Either one would be an excellent addition to any kettle.
Is this because you have the tools and talent to simply make your own? Or do you not believe they serve a purpose?
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
Holy shnikes, @Maxmbob ! That's awesome! Was it on clearance, or something??
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I will add that if you really like good (as in gourmet, not dominos, papa johns, pizza hut, etc..) pizza, the cost might seem a little much at first but when you have a group over that would normally order several pizzas at a good wood fired pizza joint these attachments pay for themselves pretty quick. I have gone from cooking 2-3 pies per cook to 6 per cook and they all get eaten. The dough costs nothing and toppings for a few more pizzas might cost $5. If I figure a "gourmet" pizza out cost $15-$23, and I am making 6 of them at a time...one or two cooks pay for the accessory. I've probably made $500 worth of pizzas in the last 6-7 months and my out of pocket cost was probably $225-$250 including the cost of the Kettle Pizza, pizza ingredients and fuel. The next time I do a cook I'll see if I can figure out my average cost per pie for the ingredients and fuel. I'm guessing it will come in somewhere between $2.75-$3.50 per pie.
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Good point Mike.
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I will add that if you really like good (not dominos, papa johns, pizza hut, etc..) pizza, the cost might seem a little much at first but when you have a group over that would normally order several pizzas at a good wood fired pizza joint these attachments pay for themselves pretty quick. I have gone from cooking 2-3 pies per cook to 6 per cook and they all get eaten. The dough costs nothing and toppings for a few more pizzas might cost $5. If I figure a "gourmet" pizza out cost $15-$23, and I am making 6 of them at a time...one or two cooks pay for the accessory. I've probably made $500 worth of pizzas in the last 6-7 months and my out of pocket cost was probably $225-$250 including the cost of the Kettle Pizza, pizza ingredients and fuel. The next time I do a cook I'll see if I can figure out my average cost per pie for the ingredients and fuel. I'm guessing it will come in somewhere between $2.75-$3.50 per pie.
This!
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
Holy shnikes, @Maxmbob ! That's awesome! Was it on clearance, or something??
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@Bob BQ the marked clearance price was $68.00. I noticed that they had 9 on the shelf. So l asked to talk to a manager. I chatted with her for a bit and mentioned that a friend had just bought one on clearance from a Walmart for $25.00. She said she had a display model she would sell for that price and I accepted.
I'll keep an eye on them for the few weeks.
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
Holy shnikes, @Maxmbob ! That's awesome! Was it on clearance, or something??
@Bob BQ
the marked clearance price was $68.00. I noticed that they had 9 on the shelf. So l asked to talk to a manager. I chatted with her for a bit and mentioned that a friend had just bought one on clearance from a Walmart for $25.00. She said she had a display model she would sell for that price and I accepted.
I'll keep an eye on them for the few weeks.
That's a steal even at $68! Very nice!
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
Wow great deal, I might have to check my local stores. I was thinking the PizzaQue for the cost especially with the veterans 10% discount but $25 is great.
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I picked up a Kettlepizza deluxe at my local Walmart (Independence, MO) yesterday for $25.00. It was a display but was complete.
I visited two local stores today. One had a display KettlePizza out in pieces but still wanted the $169 for it.
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I'm a HUGE fan of the KettlePizza. the nice part is you can adjust your set up to your skill level. Originally i just wrapped my grate in foil and put it on top to keep heat down near the stone, but upgraded to the baking steel. have the tombstone so i can keep adding fuel. My personal best is 11 pizzas in one fire. Price-wise i know it can be steep, but considering the quality and the amount of use i get out of it, well worth it.
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I just picked up a Kettle Pizza deluxe at one of the local Walmarts for $79 on clearance. They had like six of them on the shelf.
Wayne
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I just picked up a Kettle Pizza deluxe at one of the local Walmarts for $79 on clearance. They had like six of them on the shelf.
Wayne
Where is that wallyworld??
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I wish my local Walmart had them in stock let alone for that price.
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I just picked up a Kettle Pizza deluxe at one of the local Walmarts for $79 on clearance. They had like six of them on the shelf.
Wayne
Where is that wallyworld??
It was one of the stores in Springfield, MO.
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You folks and your sales make me insanely jealous! Wal-mart in Canada is a totally different animal altogether. No Weber products at all at any price - just junk, junk and more junk.
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I just picked up a Kettle Pizza deluxe at one of the local Walmarts for $79 on clearance. They had like six of them on the shelf.
Wayne
Where is that wallyworld??
It was one of the stores in Springfield, MO.
Don't hesitate to ask a department manager for an additional discount on clearance items at Walmart. It worked for me.
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The Walmart at Fountain Square in Waukegan, IL had 3 of them for $79.
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I just got a new 22 premium in black. Will these ruin the paint if it's black?
Tapa
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I don't buy into any of the KP "add ons or accessories" other than maybe the Tombstone, but hey thats just me. My buddy loves his KP as do many here.
Either one would be an excellent addition to any kettle.
Is this because you have the tools and talent to simply make your own? Or do you not believe they serve a purpose?
I never said that! I'm done with that!
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For the equipment its all about the stone and good heat. Then of couse there's the dough...
Never used either and not sure why you'd have to.
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I just got a new 22 premium in black. Will these ruin the paint if it's black?
Tapa
Nope. i've been using a KP on a black 22 for a couple years now, still looks the same
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I just got a new 22 premium in black. Will these ruin the paint if it's black?
Tapa
Nope. i've been using a KP on a black 22 for a couple years now, still looks the same
Thanks. it took years of convincing Mrs. Cannon that I needed a 3rd outdoor cooker. I would hate to mess it up. [emoji2]
Tapa
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got a kettle pizza deluxe kit coming my way next week. i'll be sure to post some of my (mis)adventures with this thing. should be fun though for the kids.
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$79 pizza kettle at my local wally...tempting...
Tapa
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$79 pizza kettle at my local wally...tempting...
Tapa
Get it before it's gone!
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looked at a non-local Walmart (my local ones are small and don't carry much bbq stuff). they didn't have any kettle pizzas, but they did have a 14" WSM for 65 bucks....
and no, I didn't get it.... though I went back and forth whether or not to pick it up.
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Picked mine up at the weekend at THD.. $25!!
Looking forward to giving it a spin this beautiful afternoon!
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I just picked both up a pizza cue for $25 and a kettle pizza...guess were gonna have to go head to head
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Picked mine up at the weekend at THD.. $25!!
Looking forward to giving it a spin this beautiful afternoon!
Nice snag. Got me one too. Also welcome to the club! Introduce you your self in the introduce yourself thread.
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How hard are these to store when not in use?
Tapa
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I don't know, mine fits under my SSP easy, even with the cover on.(zoom in on the pic)
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Was looking at a Kettle Pizza for $80 but still couldn't justify it. I did manage to find the Pizza cue for $25 so I snagged it...
Tapa
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I don't know, mine fits under my SSP easy, even with the cover on.(zoom in on the pic)
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That's a great idea. I can store it under my Genesis.
Tapa
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I don't know, mine fits under my SSP easy, even with the cover on.(zoom in on the pic)
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That's a great idea. I can store it under my Genesis.
Tapa
Sigh...didn't fit under my Genesis so it hangs in my shed... more importantly, still waiting for a chance to use it! Can't wait!
Tapa
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I hope this is OK not the right place to post will the pizzaque fit the Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" Grill
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Are lids stable on the Pizza cue? The angle looks... precarious.
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I hope this is OK not the right place to post will the pizzaque fit the Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" Grill
Yes.
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Are lids stable on the Pizza cue? The angle looks... precarious.
Never had a problem. Here is a better pic of my pizzaque, there a a couple little spring clips that help steady the lid.
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Hi guys,
Just bought a PizzaQue. Wanted to bought the Kettle Pizza but when I saw I can get a pizzaQue for 70$ (in Switzerland) I just bought it!
With my MasterTouch I can get a temperature of about 300°C (572°F)... but this is not enough for pizzas! I hope I can get at least 400-450°C (750-800°F) with the pizzaQue :-).
What temperature can you achieve with yours?
(and sorry for my bad english :-P)
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I cooked on mine last weekend (sorry no pictures) and had no problems hitting 750° after adding 2 chimneys of briquettes and some apple wood splits. I am sure you will get the hang of it in no time.
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Hi guys,
Just bought a PizzaQue. Wanted to bought the Kettle Pizza but when I saw I can get a pizzaQue for 70$ (in Switzerland) I just bought it!
With my MasterTouch I can get a temperature of about 300°C (572°F)... but this is not enough for pizzas! I hope I can get at least 400-450°C (750-800°F) with the pizzaQue :-).
What temperature can you achieve with yours?
(and sorry for my bad english :-P)
Platypus, add some wood chunks/splits to your charcoal to get higher temps.
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Hi guys,
Just bought a PizzaQue. Wanted to bought the Kettle Pizza but when I saw I can get a pizzaQue for 70$ (in Switzerland) I just bought it!
With my MasterTouch I can get a temperature of about 300°C (572°F)... but this is not enough for pizzas! I hope I can get at least 400-450°C (750-800°F) with the pizzaQue :-).
What temperature can you achieve with yours?
(and sorry for my bad english :-P)
I get 700F plus on my kettlepizza
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Used the pizza que last night; it was a Christmas gift. We had company over and decided to do a "build your own pizza" night. We made the dough, added our homemade sauce. Our guests put on the cheese and toppings of their choice, and I baked them. Overall, we fired 6 pizzas....they all came out great....bubbling cheese and crispy crust; the temp held at 700 degrees for at least an hour.
I do confess that I feel somewhat guilty having the pizza que, considering the kettle pizza brand is American made. But, there is no question that the pq works very well.
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I have the PizzaQue and my old man has the Kettle Pizza. I will say that the Kettle Pizza seems to be better quality/more sturdy, but it is no where near worth more than twice the price (on Amazon).
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Does the PizzaQue work with the Weber Jumbo Joe? (18.5") Looking to get more use out of that grill and this would be perfect...
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How did they turn out @hoosierKettle ? I am a pizzaque guy to, and have had nothing but successful cooks. Sure the kettle pizza is made of higher quality but the Pizzaque does a great job expecially for the money.
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How did they turn out @hoosierKettle ? I am a pizzaque guy to, and have had nothing but successful cooks. Sure the kettle pizza is made of higher quality but the Pizzaque does a great job expecially for the money.
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Holy crap, that thing was $50 worth of fun in just one use. I assembled it today and my wife had something to do tonight and a friend of mine's wife was out of town. It was the perfect storm of pizza and beer. I went to his house and used his weber. We did 2 frozen pizzas and 2 fresh pizzas made by a grocery deli. They all turned out great and I'm glad I started off the easy way with pre made pizzas for the first cook. It was instant success. I will make my own pizzas next time but wanted to get a feel for the cooking aspect first. I didn't get many pics after we started cooking. It was a lot of fun.
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Glad it went well! It is a lot of fun, and it gives you another reason to fire up the grill!
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Does the PizzaQue work with the Weber Jumbo Joe? (18.5") Looking to get more use out of that grill and this would be perfect...
@pschiller86 - yes, you can use the PQ on the JJ......... http://www.pizzaque.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/pizza-kit-manual.pdf
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pizzaque for $69.99 + free shipping at Hayneedle
http://www.hayneedle.com/product/pizzacraftpizzaquedeluxekettlegrillpizzaovenkit.cfm
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Try looking at Walmart for the Kettle Pizza on clearance. I bought my KP last fall for $79 on clearance. Today I was at a different Walmart and they had two Kettle Pizza Deluxe's for $40 each on clearance. I bought both of them in case I need spare parts in the future.
Wayne
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I have a buddy that just got the kettle pizza. I have the pq. I checked the kp out and really like how it looks and how it fits to bowl and lid but one thing that I like much better about pq is that the food grate is not used and you can refill coal or wood as needed during the cook by simply removing the lid. I assume that's why the kp has the handle to remove the whole thing and add but that seems much more inconvenient. Not to mention that your torching your food grate unnecessarily. Maybe I'm missing something. Other than that I like the fit and look of kp better but would prefer pq for the easy refill and not needing the food grate while cooking pizza.
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I almost bought the PQ but originally found the KP for just slightly more than the PQ so I got it instead. I'm not too concerned about my food grate as the one I'm using is the cheaper non-hinge grate. The KP is high quality but since I've only seen the PQ in the box, I can't really compare the two on quality.
If I find a PQ for a good price, I may buy it to see what the differences are in cooking Pizza's with both.
Wayne
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I almost bought the PQ but originally found the KP for just slightly more than the PQ so I got it instead. I'm not too concerned about my food grate as the one I'm using is the cheaper non-hinge grate. The KP is high quality but since I've only seen the PQ in the box, I can't really compare the two on quality.
If I find a PQ for a good price, I may buy it to see what the differences are in cooking Pizza's with both.
Wayne
I've got a few regular grates so your right, that's not a big deal. I was there when he put it together and the kp is very nice quality and much easier to assemble. Overall quality and fit, I would say kp wins. I like how the pq is open and fuel can be added easily but I'm not crazy about how the lid fits on the unit. It seems like it could get bumped off easily. The pq comes with several tiny nuts and bolts that are a little tricky with fat fingers when assembling.
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Use a flip up grate but put it in upside down. Adding fuel is easy then.
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So glad someone made this thread. I haven't used the Kettle Pizza but I've got the Pizza Que and find it to do a pretty darn nice job. Just one thing, I stopped using the stone that came with it after one of my pies burnt on the bottom and another stuck to it when I was sliding it in. Switched to a cast iron pizza pan I bought off Amazon. Much easier even if it isn't quite as authentic tasting.
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What's a good price for the KettlePizza Deluxe? I've seen the incredible prices in this thread (admittedly from several years ago) and $230 on kettlepizza.com which is actually a link to Amazon. Also, I thought I saw around $500 mentioned in a video or thread somewhere. Prices seem to be all over.
While looking I found it for $200 at https://www.crateandbarrel.com/kettlepizza-deluxe-usa-outdoor-pizza-oven-kit/s118228 which seems like a good price.
Thoughts?
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It really depends on how fancy you want to go with Kettle Pizza's kits. I knew i wanted the whole outfit, but their all inclusive package wasn't available at the time. The way I got the best deal is I price shopped around and found that Ace Hardware had the best price after I used one of their $X off coupons. I then used a coupon code with bbqguys.com to get $10 or $15 my first order for the tombstone baking stone grate. The baking steel was the only item I paid full price for.
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For anyone considering options, check out the OnlyFire. Incredibly well-built from heavy stainless steel. Great low ceiling design keeps heat on top of the pizza to ensure that the top cooks evenly with the crust. For $150, you get a complete oven kit - no add-ons required.