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Title: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: MartyG on March 05, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
I meant to get this out earlier, but obviously that didn't happen. When a few of us met at the Weber Grill in Schaumberg for lunch, one of the tools I brought with me (be prepared) was a tape measure. Once we were sufficiently boozed up, we dragged the repro-original out the front door for a few pics and measurements. It's pretty simple really, so a drawing is not really needed. Really.

First off, the stand is NOT bolted to the kettle, gravity is the only thing holding things together.
Secondly, the bowl appears to be (and measures up to be) a standard 22.5 kettle, minus the leg sockets. As you can see from the pics, it's a three-wheeler.

The stand itself is made from 1" wide steel stock, probably 3/16" thick. (If I had been more prepared I would have brought a micrometer.)
The diameter of the horizontal ring is 18" (I think - pretty sure - I had a couple Hopslams remember)
The height to the top of the top horizontal stand ring is 24"
The height to the top of the lower horzontal stand ring is 12"
The feet at the end of each leg stick out by 1 1/2"

You're on your own with the lid. (Should have brought a profiling tool) It's shallower than today's lids. Same vent though. The one we played with is a DA = 2001.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8496/8418592942_b9be17ef95.jpg)

When I go back I may get serious about measuring this thing up right. If we're lucky, maybe I can pry the details out of Weber, or get a look at a drawing. Either way, I might take a shot at a repro of my own this Summer. I know a metal guy. Don't hold your breath.

Marty
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: HankB on March 05, 2013, 02:47:58 PM
I wonder how accurate the repro is. Faced with that situation, I might have been tempted to grab an existing 22 kettle bowl and fitted stand and lid to it. I also might have used available vent wheels rather than whatever was done on the original (if it was even different.)

Does anyone know if the vent wheels go back that far?
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: 1buckie on March 05, 2013, 03:20:59 PM
I wonder how accurate the repro is. Faced with that situation, I might have been tempted to grab an existing 22 kettle bowl and fitted stand and lid to it. I also might have used available vent wheels rather than whatever was done on the original (if it was even different.)

Does anyone know if the vent wheels go back that far?   



The Great Pumpkin will now answer this question.........


(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/4956.jpg)

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/4953.jpg)

Betcha a nickel they were just like this in prehistoric times.......
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Duke on March 05, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
Thanks for posting that Marty!
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 05, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Heres a blown up pic of an original. Sorry if its too big, but I wanted to get a some closeups. Vents look like prototype versions of what they went with on the regular design until the late '70s when the tabs were widened like on the repro. Looks like the stand has wingnuts and flathead machine screws.




(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/300/1952original.jpg)

Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 05, 2013, 06:38:43 PM
Heres a smaller view.

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/300/1952original.jpg)
Title: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Eastex on March 05, 2013, 07:22:40 PM
I'm sure you Chicago guys have probably already thought of this but I wonder if any original Stephens buoys could be found in antique stores around there? It would maybe give you ahead start on recreating one.  I know the last trip we took to Florida that there were old buoys and stuff all over the stores down there.


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Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Troy on March 05, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
I'm sure you Chicago guys have probably already thought of this but I wonder if any original Stephens buoys could be found in antique stores around there? It would maybe give you ahead start on recreating one.  I know the last trip we took to Florida that there were old buoys and stuff all over the stores down there.


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I called around to several places and collectors last year looking for old buoys. A few mentioned that some of the lakehouses and junk dealers on the north and south shores would probably have some of the old ones, but I never made any good connections or got any solid leads.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: G$ on March 06, 2013, 04:48:32 AM
Can everyone else but me see Craig's pictures?
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Duke on March 06, 2013, 05:47:56 AM
Thanks for posting both of those Craig. I find the bottom vent are very interesting. It looks like some modifications were done to it. It was sure a rough looking grill compared to the newer ones. It reminds me of local celebrity Jack O'neill's early wetsuit.  Interestingly enough Jack also started in 1952. 


(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/889/jackoneillwetsuit.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/jackoneillwetsuit.jpg/)
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Duke on March 06, 2013, 05:50:11 AM
I'm sure you Chicago guys have probably already thought of this but I wonder if any original Stephens buoys could be found in antique stores around there? It would maybe give you ahead start on recreating one.  I know the last trip we took to Florida that there were old buoys and stuff all over the stores down there.


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I wouldn't mind to find one of those old garden lights either.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: 1buckie on March 06, 2013, 06:01:58 AM
Can everyone else but me see Craig's pictures?

Yeah, all I'm getting is a red "X"
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 06, 2013, 06:31:50 AM
Can everyone else but me see Craig's pictures?

Yeah, all I'm getting is a red "X"
That's weird.  ???  I checked both my computer and my iphone and the pics show up. I uploaded them from imageshack last night. I'll have to do some digging.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: 1buckie on March 06, 2013, 06:54:43 AM
Think it's only some of us....

......don't want to speak for others, but..........the "technically challenged" perhaps?

my comp isn't the screamin', high falutin' new-fangled one  like some folks have..... :-[
Title: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Eastex on March 06, 2013, 07:25:16 AM
Yea but its like your Webers right? You've got 10 or 15 old ones running at the same time don't you? :)


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Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: 1buckie on March 06, 2013, 07:31:22 AM


Never thought of it that way, have to reconsider my current configurations..... ;D
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Hogsy on March 06, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
Pics come up fine on my iMac and iPhone
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Heyjude on March 06, 2013, 07:59:54 PM
Pics aren't showing for me either? What image service are they stored on?  8)
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: SmoothSmoke on March 06, 2013, 08:04:31 PM
Pics are on imageshack.  They're showing up fine on my end, using firefox. 
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: bob hope on March 06, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
Pics are good here.. and nice! thanks Craig.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: zavod44 on March 08, 2013, 07:11:23 PM
I see everything.....
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 08, 2013, 08:08:12 PM
I'm thinking the pic of the '52 original and the 2001 replica need to go up on the Determine the Age page.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Heyjude on March 08, 2013, 08:36:36 PM
Still not showing up for me..
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: bob hope on March 09, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
Still not showing up for me..

Now?
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag68/hope2cu2/1952original_zps960e2c9b.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: 1buckie on March 09, 2013, 04:50:12 AM


Nope......Red "X"............. :'(
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Duke on March 09, 2013, 06:53:07 AM
Try doing a left click on the red x then click show picture.
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Heyjude on March 09, 2013, 08:28:47 AM
Still not showing.. Bad Mojo somewhere..
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 09, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
Sorry guys....I'm going to attempt it again.. lmk if it shows up or not....
 
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/300/1952original.jpg)

Here's it is again. This one didn't zoom in as close as the one I posted before and I uploaded it the same size.  :-\
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/300/1952original.jpg)


Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Heyjude on March 09, 2013, 08:54:35 AM
Hey Craig, canyou email me the pics? I'll sned you my address in a PM AJ
Title: Re: Original Weber Bar B Q Kettle Specifications
Post by: Craig on March 09, 2013, 08:59:04 AM
yes. stand by