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Grill Talk => WSM: Weber Smokey Mountain => Topic started by: mcgolden on August 20, 2015, 10:32:37 AM

Title: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mcgolden on August 20, 2015, 10:32:37 AM
So I've seen pictures of people who have used aluminum caps for plugging the remaining holes in the damper since the Weber adapter for the BBQ Guru only uses one hole.  I just figured I'd pass on some info for anyone who is interested.  The size caps I used were 3/4 inch and fit like they were made for it.  They just snap right in and they seem like they'll just be easy to pop out too if needed, althought I probably won't ever need to.  Here's a pic.
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab326/mcgolden67/20150820_130131-1_zps9hvzgcoj.jpg) (http://s876.photobucket.com/user/mcgolden67/media/20150820_130131-1_zps9hvzgcoj.jpg.html)

The caps were $1.33 each at Ace Hardware.

By the way, I did the same for one of the side vent holes on a Smokey Joe Gold so I could use the BBQ Guru on my Mini-WSM.  This one took a 1" cap ($1.60 at Ace Hardware).  Sorry, I didn't get a picture of that one but if anyone needs to see it I can take a pic later.

So no more need for high heat tape.  Hope this helps someone.
Title: Re: Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: shoebe on August 20, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
That looks so much better than the tape, thanks
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mcgolden on August 21, 2015, 04:36:41 AM
UPDATE: Okay, so it turns out this may not be such a great way.  I thought the plugs I was using were aluminum, but I tried a magnet with them and they were magnetic, so not aluminum.  Actually, I don't know what they are. My concern is that they may be zinc coated which isn't safe for cooking. Maybe not a big risk used like this but I don't want to take the chance.  Just thought I should pass this info on.

Looks like I'm going back to high heat tape.

DAMN!!!
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: Tommy B on August 21, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
@mcgolden  Nice thread. I am running an 18 WSM and a PartyQ and dislike the high heat tape as well. I was considering getting a nut and bolt and two washers to screw together and cover the holes. One washer on the inside of the bow and one on the outside.  What are your thoughts on that set up? I have some left over gasket material I used to seal up my WSM. I was thinking about adhearing the gasket material to the inside of the washer I would but on the outside of the cooker to make sure it was a good seal. My only fear is that gasket material my not hold up to the heat if it is right by the charcoal.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mcgolden on August 21, 2015, 05:18:36 AM
After I realized that my original solution wouldn't work, I considered doing what you're talking about using stainless washers.  I just haven't had a chance to give it a try.  I'm not real familiar with the gasket material so I honestly don't know how it'll hold up.  I'll probably just use the tape since It's not likely I'll use the WSM without my Guru.  So there shouldn't really be any need to uncover the holes at any time.  Although it would have been nice to be able to do that with the SJ Gold that I use for sometimes as a Mini-WSM and sometimes just as a Smokey Joe.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: Tommy B on August 21, 2015, 06:38:17 AM
I just emailed bbq gaskets .com asking what temp their gasket is rated up to. I think the stainless washers would hold heat better then the tape and last longer. I am on the same page I don't think I will run the WSM with out the partyQ.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: blksabbath on August 21, 2015, 06:40:59 AM
I think you have nickel-plated steel plugs which I think would be fine.

Like these:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#9563k81/=ylbc29

Galvanized steel is kind of chalky/dull looking, not shiny.

How about silicone stoppers stuck in from the inside of the smoker?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#9277k54/=ylbypk
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mcgolden on August 21, 2015, 07:23:47 AM
I think you might be right that it could be nickel-plated, but is nickel safe or will I have the same issue?  I've read that nickel-plated cookware shouldn't be used but I'm not cooking directly on it.  I would love to go back to the plugs but I'm concerned with safety.  I also have someone with asthma in the house so I'm trying to be especially careful.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: blksabbath on August 21, 2015, 07:45:58 AM
You may have forgotten about this....

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-7436-Replacement-Hinged-Cooking/dp/B000WEPHKW/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1440171919&sr=1-1&keywords=Weber+7436

I'm guessing you have probably cooked directly on one of these before ;)
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mcgolden on August 21, 2015, 07:56:01 AM
Sure, make me feel like a total ass!  ::)

But thanks for the help.  Looks like I'll head back to the store and repurchase those plugs.  ;D
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: blksabbath on August 21, 2015, 12:16:48 PM
You could probably ask at the hardware store what they are just to be safe since there are galvanized plugs out there too.  I'm just going by the picture you posted which is obviously different than having the actual plugs in hand.

Anyways, good luck and glad to help.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mrgoodbar67 on November 05, 2015, 09:30:55 PM
UPDATE: Okay, so it turns out this may not be such a great way.  I thought the plugs I was using were aluminum, but I tried a magnet with them and they were magnetic, so not aluminum.  Actually, I don't know what they are. My concern is that they may be zinc coated which isn't safe for cooking. Maybe not a big risk used like this but I don't want to take the chance.  Just thought I should pass this info on.

Looks like I'm going back to high heat tape.

DAMN!!!

easy way to remove zinc from things-

Soak them in (Hydrochloric acid) aka Muriatic acid used to clean driveways or for pools.  It is found at HD.

Once the item is submerged, it will bubble.  Kind of like an effervescent (alka seltzer) . Once the bubbling stops, this means the zinc is completely off.

Use tongs to remove the item from the muriatic acid or you will burn your hand.  Dispose of the acid by diluting it with allot of water then dump in a drain.  DILUTING IS A MUST.
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: swamprb on November 06, 2015, 12:19:04 AM
Did it ever occur to think that the plugs just might be low grade stainless steel???

I know that mine are and judging from the price per that you mentioned they very well could be too.

Mine were from bLowes. I've been using them since 2011.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/Ugly%20Drum%20Smoker/Weber/IMG_1561.jpg)

  just sayin'
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: Tommy B on February 05, 2016, 11:44:54 AM
I just bought a set of nickel plated plugs.... haven't received them in the mail yet. I really don't think zinc will hurt you unless super heated way past bbq temps but I would rather be safe then sorry!
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: Big Dawg on February 05, 2016, 01:04:59 PM
I just got a set of these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MN6GEC2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00).

I'll be doing a brisket in a couple of weeks.  Hopefully no problems.





BD
Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: TCookHusker on July 03, 2019, 06:56:07 AM
Are the hole diameters the same on the 18.5 as the 22.5?


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Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: jdefran on August 21, 2019, 04:41:42 PM

Are the hole diameters the same on the 18.5 as the 22.5?


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Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: mtneer on August 22, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
Just to add a little more information.

Zinc that isn't galvanized usually has a yellowish/goldish color. But galvanized does have the chalky gray mentioned above.

Also, austenitic stainless steel (aka 300 series) has nickel in it's chemical composition. Out helps with high temps and oxidation resistance.

The cheaper, magnetic, ferritic stainless steel (400 series) didn't have nickel... Or very little.  Also it will rust especially after exposed to high heat regularly. This is why stainless steel used in cheaper grills still rusts out.

If I've started anything incorrectly feel free to correct me.

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Title: Re: NOT SO Great way to plug damper holes on WSM (for BBQ Guru)
Post by: FTTH on September 08, 2019, 10:57:29 AM
Your grates are nickel plated


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