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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: utah95 on May 03, 2015, 07:00:46 PM
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I called on a local add for a stainless performer that looked plum colored. The owner contacted me and said it was a rootbeer color. I have not seen one that color and wondered if it was rare. I thought I would mention it here in case someone had an interest in the color. It looks like it may be in decent shape but is missing the tank and the owner is asking too much, but many come down to a reasonable price. Any thoughts?
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Without a good picture or two it's hard to speculate, but neither brown nor plum Performers sound quite right. Maybe plum, I don't know. It was an available color in other kettles around 2000 or so.
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And welcome. Is this Performer in Utah?
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i'm pretty sure there are some plum performers out there.
i've never seen purplish red root beer before though.
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I would swear I just saw a picture of a plum SS performer on CL somewhere here in the Midwest. Minneapolis maybe. They are out there.
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Could be a burgundy one
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Plum performers exist. Root beer colored could be brick red or plum.
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what the heck kind of root beer are you drinking @pbe gummi bear ?
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light urple.
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@chefn58 this is the one you're talking about http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/hsh/5006311661.html
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The performer is in Utah. The color in pictures is very close to the link in Minneapolis. Here is a picture http://img.ksl.com/mx/mplace-classifieds.ksl.com/1694641-1429420713-734726.jpg?filter=ksl/gallery1 (http://img.ksl.com/mx/mplace-classifieds.ksl.com/1694641-1429420713-734726.jpg?filter=ksl/gallery1). Is that a plum stainless performer? Assuming it is in great condition, what is the right price to pay with a missing tank? I assumed $75-$100 would be fair since I see complete performers for less than $100 (even as little as $25-$50), several times a year. However, not in Plum. I have a green stainless performer, but it is not in great shape and needs new sweepers/dampers and the lid is a little rough. It seems like I may be better off upgrading to a performer that is in better shape. Of course, my wife and children think I can survive with my green performer, medium BGE and the 2 other Weber kettles.
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Ultimately the grill is worth whatever you are willing to pay for it. As you eluded to, grills can be found regularly on craigslist from $25 and up. With that being said, certain grills are fetching stupid amounts of money also. The plum is one of the more rare colors (Heck I would like to have one) and definitely harder to come across than green, but what its worth is really up to you. Sounds like you already have a Performer so you are in a good place with not "needing" it. Figure out what its worth, make an offer and if the seller accepts, enjoy your new grill. Sell you green one and that can also help offset the cost.
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@chefn58 this is the one you're talking about http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/hsh/5006311661.html
Yes. That is it. I had never seen one before that one popped up.
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Ah, so the plums do exist.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/05/04/00B0B_dR8FpEjqyo7_600x450.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/05/04/1694641-1429420713-734726.jpg)
@utah95 that Craigslist grill is at least 10 years old and you could easily find yourself in a similar situation with it. That said, most parts for older Webers are either newly available or adaptable from other grills in some way. It all depends on what you want, and what you're willing to do.
For example, new sweepers are less than $20 and you can perform the fix yourself, at least potentially. Research or ask questions here before deciding.
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Thank you to everyone for the information. I know I could fix some of the issues with my green, but would need a new lid and several other little issues to have it pristine. I'm feeling like I would be better off finding a nicer performer and selling mine cheap. I will wait and see how things play out and may go take a look at it since it is not far from me. However, I am not feeling the need to have the grill unless it is for what I consider a reasonable price. If someone here is more interested than me, I would be happy to help facilitate a purchase.
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The owner seems to be sticking to $175. If it is in near mint condition, I may pay $100 for a rare color that is missing a tank, but my slightly beat up green that I bought for $50 cooks fine for now. I may try to find a newer performer and swap out to a metal table. I think I would prefer not having to open the top to access the charcoal box and the small fuel tanks.
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Ultimately the grill is worth whatever you are willing to pay for it. As you eluded to, grills can be found regularly on craigslist from $25 and up. With that being said, certain grills are fetching stupid amounts of money also. The plum is one of the more rare colors (Heck I would like to have one) and definitely harder to come across than green, but what its worth is really up to you. Sounds like you already have a Performer so you are in a good place with not "needing" it. Figure out what its worth, make an offer and if the seller accepts, enjoy your new grill. Sell you green one and that can also help offset the cost.
This is sound advice. The issue with the older performers is that there are tangible things that will likely need to get replaced. Right off the bat, a new regulator is ~$60, the 7409 ash sweeps are hard to find, 5lb gas tank is $50-60 and other odds and ends like grates and hardware can really add up.
The SS performer is my favorite Weber and I have dumped alot of money into mine because it's the grill for me. Here's my rebuild log in case you find it useful: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/working-on-ss-performers-gummi-bear-build-log-pic-heavy/ the images are dead at the moment but one day I will update them.
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... I may try to find a newer performer and swap out to a metal table. I think I would prefer not having to open the top to access the charcoal box and the small fuel tanks.
The newer (non-SS) Performers use an even smaller tank, a 1lb hanging right down from the regulator. The 5lb tanks the SS used are only painful to buy once, and then you got years of service from them. Even if you decide to go with a 20lb, it's easier to place on a SS' cart.
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...a new regulator is ~$60 ...
Nah, more like $12. http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Propane-Pressue-Regulator/dp/B000BQUQEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361665260&sr=8-1&keywords=mr+heater+propane+low+pressure+regulator+f276136
From Jeff's research here: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-regulator-question/msg18705/#msg18703
It's what I use in my '92.
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...a new regulator is ~$60 ...
Nah, more like $12. http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Propane-Pressue-Regulator/dp/B000BQUQEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361665260&sr=8-1&keywords=mr+heater+propane+low+pressure+regulator+f276136
From Jeff's research here: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-regulator-question/msg18705/#msg18703
It's what I use in my '92.
Good tip! I meant the regulator and hose assembly direct from Weber.
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Is 7409 the part number for a stainless performer ash sweep? Does anyone know a source? Are they available form Weber? Its time to at least fix that issue on my green performer!
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No. That is the old style ash sweep. The H style non-SS is 7444, I think.
I'll need to look up the stainless one.
I think it is 90720 for the SS Ash Sweep, 22".
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No. That is the old style ash sweep. The H style non-SS is 7444, I think. I'll need to look up the stainless one.
I think it is 90720 for the SS Ash Sweep, 22".
7409 is the correct ash sweep for a SS performer.
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@utah95 the 7409 was used on any 22.5" kettle with a One Touch sweeper, so '90s MasterTouch and regular One Touch kettles in the '80s included.
Around 2004 the 7444 "H" style (so-called because one part of it looks like an H ...) was introduced and is a direct replacement for machines without an ash bucket.
The older ash bucket holder (it's that collar or ring) depended upon the 7409 mechanism; it is suspended by it and a "hangar bar". But if you ditch the hangar bar the ash bucket holder can instead be suspended by the leg sockets and car radiator hose clamps or baling wire or maybe even screws.
pbe gummi bear did a comprehensive write up about the parts, in the context of a conversion from OTS to OTG here: http://weberkettleclub.com/blog/2014/03/03/converting-a-weber-ots-to-otg/
For 2015 the ash can holder and bucket were redesigned. It's compatible with any 22.5" One Touch kettle that has 7444 sweepers. I use this setup, with 7444, on my '92 Performer and it works great.
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7409 is the correct ash sweep for a SS performer.
I've got a SS performer with H style as the original ash sweep. I've also got 2 with 7409.
I thought Utah was asking for the part number for the SS Ash Sweep, which I believe is correct for Performers with H style ash sweeps. 90720 is the part number for the SS version of the 7444.
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I do have the 7409 style.It sounds like they are too hard to find. If I'm understanding correctly, the the most affordable method is to remove the bar and somehow attach the old collar to to the legs. The other option is to replace the collar and ash holder with 2015 parts. Either way, I change to the 7444 replacement sweeps. Is that correct? Thank you for your assistance.
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To use the existing ash ring, you need a 7409 sweep or modifications to the ash ring that would have it screw into the legs or something similiar. If you swap the sweep for a newer one, you would also need the newer ash ring.
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I do have the 7409 style.It sounds like they are too hard to find. If I'm understanding correctly, the the most affordable method is to remove the bar and somehow attach the old collar to to the legs. The other option is to replace the collar and ash holder with 2015 parts. Either way, I change to the 7444 replacement sweeps. Is that correct? Thank you for your assistance.
You are correct. You can find the 7409 style, but it will take some work. I would recommend you post in the classifieds asking if anyone would be willing to sell you one.
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Thank you to everyone for the help.