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Title: Project Wapiti
Post by: Winz on September 26, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Awhile back, I did a mini WSM for a buddy of mine.  We both like to bow hunt, so I thought I would make him a deer-themed cooker that he could use in camp or at home.  "Project Venison" is a typical mini WSM conversion.  To personalize it, I attached a Coues deer antler to the lid vent.  The antler came from an animal I got many years ago in southeast Arizona.  BTW - Coues deer are very, very difficult to hunt.  If you are interested, GOOGLE them. 

Project Venison:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nrbf80foud92k2r/IMG_0204.jpg?dl=0)

A month ago, I decided to try a WSM conversion using a Smokey Joe Platinum as the basis.  Instead of an aluminum 32 quart stockpot, an 80 quart stainless steel pot is necessary to fit the 18.5" width.  I used an 80 quart Concord pot that is 1mm thick.  Stout stuff.  Because this cooker is bigger than Project Venison, I settled on an Elk theme - "Project Wapiti"

First step is to cut the hole in the bottom of the stainless steel pot:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/q1mnanufiin6mql/1%20cut.jpg?dl=0)

It did not take long to learn that cutting and drilling holes in a 1mm stainless pot is a real challenge.  Despite using $15.00 drill bits, thread cutting oil, and high quality saw blades, there were many casualties.  It literally took me a couple of days to cut the pot, lid, and drill the necessary holes.  Those are carbide tipped drill bits - one of them bent 90 degrees from the heat generated by drilling into stainless:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t9sumsa5ur6ebve/broken.jpg?dl=0)

The pot did not fit right in the SJP, so I decided to cut a hole in the lid (same size as the hole in the bottom) and rivet the bottom of the pot to the lid.  This allows the lid flange to sit on top of the rim of the SJP which is a good fit:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/571gk6fylz0ojif/3%20bottom%20attach.jpg?dl=0)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/sk9ngngk6lywayc/4%20bottom%20attach.jpg?dl=0)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/0le2p1x5t71jdr3/5%20bottom%20attach.jpg?dl=0)

Next was the charcoal basket.  Because the SJP has such a deep bowl, I was able to go 6 inches high on the charcoal basket.  This should make for some nice, long burns:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/rg95c9gnnniyg5p/6%20charcoal%20basket.jpg?dl=0)

For the grates, I decided to give myself enough room that I could easily stand a couple of beer can chickens on the bottom grate, with room to spare.  This pot is nice and deep, providing lots of vertical spacing:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/n685bc4ho87tvuu/7%20new%20grates.jpg?dl=0)

I used one of the top rack supports to mount my Thermoworks unit, and used a second rack support as a place to thread temp probes for meat and cooker temp:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/67e9bzakyy3971m/8%20temp%20probe.jpg?dl=0)

I painted my "Wapiti" theme using 650 degree engine enamel.  This photo gives you an idea of the size comparison to a normal Mini conversion ("Sierralita" in this case):

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ket3557krsf3f65/9%20size.jpg?dl=0)

I decided to save the lid of my SJP - it is a "DR" code, which is the last year the SJP was made.  Instead, I used a Jumbo Joe lid with the bolt on lid handle.   I am telling you, the move to bolt on handles across the Weber line is a dream for those who like to mod kettles.  The antler is from a spike bull elk - my first with a bow.  The mounts going into the lid are 1/4" stainless steel bolts:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ngwev8jqowini77/10%20done.jpg?dl=0)

There you have it, project Wapiti.  Yes, it would be easier to score a $100 18.5 WSM off craigslist, but not nearly as rewarding. 

If any of you are machinists, and know the secret to drilling thick stainless steel, please PM me.  I would love to learn.

Winz
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 26, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
Unbelievable Winz. Top notch craftsmanship as always. Very nice work!
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: 1buckie on September 26, 2014, 06:20:45 PM
the stainless & black looks tremendous !!!

Nice fixes on the temp unit, fitting to the bowl & esp. the handle !!!!!

Just grand, man !!!!!
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: coldkettle on September 26, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
 Very nice mod!  I'm thinking of doing something with one of mine and your write up gives lots of inspiration!
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Post by: MrHoss on September 26, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
Wow - the handle sends it over the top!  Great bloody work there...I am impressed and then some.
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Post by: G on September 26, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
Schweet mod.......nice work.  Im bugling as I type!
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Post by: Fishawn on September 26, 2014, 06:42:54 PM
Great work!
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Post by: Heyjude on September 26, 2014, 06:46:08 PM
Looks great. Can't wait to see what you cook and how long it can go for.  8)
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Post by: MacEggs on September 26, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
That is outstanding work!  Now, you got me thinking about what to do with my SJP ...

I am wondering if a 30 gallon drum would work well for something along these lines?  ???
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Post by: Craig on September 26, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
That looks badass!! Very nice job on that!
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Post by: GregS on September 27, 2014, 03:19:42 AM
outstanding!
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Post by: crumbsnatcher on September 27, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
Nice work Winz!


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Post by: jcnaz on September 27, 2014, 06:21:40 AM
That is beautiful!
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Post by: jmeier64 on September 27, 2014, 07:54:52 AM
Sweet mod. I am wondering if you could do a door in the side then aside from the issues with cutting stainless. Is this the pot you used? http://www.amazon.com/Concord-Quart-Stainless-Steel-Cookware/dp/B0085ZNXZ6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1411833141&sr=8-4&keywords=80+quart+pot
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: Thomas Andrews on September 27, 2014, 08:26:46 AM
This does look incredibly impressive and is testament to the level of skill and vision of Winz - kudos, sir!
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on September 27, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
For drilling stainless steel you want a good bimetal bit, like Lawson's silver and demming bits. Most bits are good for all propose use and come with a 118° drill point. For SS metal especially food grade SS metal that is very low in carbon making it very hard you want you drill point at 135° to 140°. Also adding a second angle on the backside helps relieve how much is in contact of the drill point at all times thus cooling the bit and metal work piece. I personally like to go with a 135° point and 12° relief angle. Using a cutting oil is also recommend,  I like marvel mystery oil myself. Then when performing actual drilling do not constantly drill till through the work piece pull drill trigger and allow to come to full speed then let completely of trigger and let bit come to rest. Then over and over again while applying cutting oil. Another drill bit to consider is a split point bit with the same angles. I used to fabricate SS food grade processing equipment and learned a lot about cutting machining and drilling SS metals. 

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: Winz on September 27, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Thank you all for the kind words. It was a fun project (except for the drilling)

Jmeier64 - yes, that is the pot. No, I would not even think of cutting a door. No need.

Mikey - perfect!  Something tells me you can't get those bits at Home Depot. Will look into ordering them.

Winz


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Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on September 27, 2014, 10:47:36 AM
Thank you all for the kind words. It was a fun project (except for the drilling)

Jmeier64 - yes, that is the pot. No, I would not even think of cutting a door. No need.

Mikey - perfect!  Something tells me you can't get those bits at Home Depot. Will look into ordering them.

Winz


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Yeah those bits are available through Lawson only but there are other good high tensile bimetal bits out there. It is just getting the point angle right, that's the hard thing to find in out of the box bits.

Also my hat is off to you on bagging a Coues whitetail.  I have been 3 times and have yet to get one.
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: Idahawk on September 27, 2014, 10:50:04 AM
Winz beautiful job.

FYI the tamarack are turning yellow and the Elk are bugling , the son and I are heading up in the morning, it's been hot and the elk a little late on the bugle around here but any day now :)
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: Winz on September 27, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Mikey - keep at it. Chiricahuas?

Idahawk - best of luck!

Winz


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Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on September 27, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Winz- Bowie, AZ north of it unit 28. Which is north Chiricahuas. Next year might try a hunt for them in central AZ. Had a coworker take one in that area.  Plus it is closer to home and I could easily do it on a day off, few of which I get. I haven't even went out for dove this year.
Title: Re: Project Wapiti
Post by: 1911Ron on September 27, 2014, 04:32:06 PM
That is great work, well done!
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Post by: argentflame on September 27, 2014, 07:43:44 PM
As always. Outstanding mod. You are one of the best innovators.
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Post by: saxart on September 28, 2014, 04:31:07 AM
Great project Winz!