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First used Smoke Fire?

Started by cigarman20, February 15, 2020, 01:40:45 PM

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cigarman20

Well, at least it's the first I've seen...


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DaveG74

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And 200$ under retail.
I swear, when I score a great deal on a 26" I'll stop buying grills... So often.

bamakettles

Saw one at Lowe's this weekend....flimsy and cheap was my impression.  I'd hoped for something much better.


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Jan M.

According to many YouTube videos and reports from a friend (California) I stoped my preorder today.
I appears to be a disaster.
Looks like no smoke fire out there works properly.




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pbe gummi bear

I'll be honest and say that I haven't really followed the SmokeFire that closely as I think that Weber's current product development over emphasizes, aesthetics, and cost reduction over long term durability. With that said, I was curious why the SmokeFire has been having so many issues during the recent release. After some research, the firebox design of the SmokeFire is terrible. It seems like the grease has pools at the bottom of the firebox, then ignites on fire since it's so close to the fire bowl! Traegers don't have this problem as there is a completely separate grease tray that separates the fire from the drippings while evenly dispersing the heat Does Weber actually think that tiny fire heat shield is going to evenly heat up the inside of the grill? It's like cooking on a gasser with only one burner/giant flavorizer and expecting the inside to be even temperature. Why do the louvered exhaust vents point downward the back of the barrel? Grease and condensation will just drip down the exterior! This all doesn't make sense to me. Go buy a proven Traeger, Rec Tec, or similar grill and know and work around it's limitations. It seems like the SmokeFire design is pandering to those that are familiar with gassers but the actual execution has missed its mark.

On a positive note, the grill is attractive looking and the short inclined auger and new school PID temp controller are interesting. 
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LightningBoldtz

Following this thread, interesting thoughts Lawrence.  I have to see one of these first hand.  Watching the initial release videos it seemed like a solid design but may be fools gold. 

and to Add to your list Lawrence"Go buy a proven Traeger, Rec Tec, or similar grill" like Grilla grills  my personal favorite.  :)  Most people on this forum won't give a rip about being a push button pitmaster but I am a convert, not that I will ever give up charcoal.
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ReanimatedRobot

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Quote from: LightningBoldtz on February 17, 2020, 04:25:28 AM
Following this thread, interesting thoughts Lawrence.  I have to see one of these first hand.  Watching the initial release videos it seemed like a solid design but may be fools gold. 

and to Add to your list Lawrence"Go buy a proven Traeger, Rec Tec, or similar grill" like Grilla grills  my personal favorite.  :)  Most people on this forum won't give a rip about being a push button pitmaster but I am a convert, not that I will ever give up charcoal.

I doubt it is fools gold (at least not yet at this point), but unfortunately I don't think they worked all of the kinks out and really should have spent some more time working on the app from what I have heard.  It probably also doesn't help a lot that a few of the first arrivals are happening in winter where performance isn't going to be ideal.  Hopefully, they will get everything worked out in the next few months and take care of the people who took the early leap of faith. 

If they don't get things worked out they might just ruin a lot of the buzz they had going and make others who were interested just forget about future iterations that might be greatly improved.  I don't currently have a pellet grill, but if they got it together who knows I might be in the market in a few years.
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bamakettles

I'd be more inclined to try the Spider Grills adapter with a kettle.  Not a bad price and I'm seeing some good reviews on long cooks now using it.

HoosierKettle

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crowderjd

I had high hopes for this, and after watching some Youtube videos I'm super bummed that things seem to not be going well.  I have a friend who has a Rec-Tec, and I have to be honest, I love it...Love the look, love the convenience of their ap, and the BBQ he's made on it has been good. I was hoping the Smoke Fire would equal, if not surpass it...I was even saving up for one.  But for now, I'm going to just stick with the 26er...I am truly hopeful the early kinks get worked out, and that Weber takes @pbe gummi bear comments about their current product development to heart.  This all reminds me a bit of the old adage, "Jack of all trades, master of none." 
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Mike in Roseville

I may pursue a pellet grill down the road...maybe. I want to see if these initial failings are indeed product related or simply user related. It's too soon to tell but so many instances are pointing more to the former than to the latter.

My original fear was that there were so many players in the pellet game already, the Weber pellet grill would have to be flat out amazing to compete in an already crowded market. Why would you buy a weber instead of a MAK, GMG, Yoder, Rec Tec, or even a Traeger? Those are all proven.


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LightningBoldtz

Quote from: Mike in Roseville on February 17, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
Why would you buy a weber instead of a MAK, GMG, Yoder, Rec Tec, or even a Traeger? Those are all proven.


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Or Grilla Grills my personal favorite.  I own 2 of them.  ;)
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PKSullivan

Quote from: LightningBoldtz on February 17, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Mike in Roseville on February 17, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
Why would you buy a weber instead of a MAK, GMG, Yoder, Rec Tec, or even a Traeger? Those are all proven.


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Or Grilla Grills my personal favorite.  I own 2 of them.  ;)


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LightningBoldtz

Lawrence shared with me a  series of videos but a guy on youtube named Tony Ngo.  Whoa, I am trying to see where he is screwing up and I can't.  When I initially saw the design I thought it was a game changer, now not so sure.  to be continued
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LightningBoldtz

Quote from: PKSullivan on February 17, 2020, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: LightningBoldtz on February 17, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Mike in Roseville on February 17, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
Why would you buy a weber instead of a MAK, GMG, Yoder, Rec Tec, or even a Traeger? Those are all proven.


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Or Grilla Grills my personal favorite.  I own 2 of them.  ;)


I got an Alpha OG back last Halloween and love it.

I am not a collector, but I do have a small collection.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want"