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mhiszem

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Slow n Sear 2.0
« on: May 31, 2018, 07:48:35 AM »
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LiquidOcelot

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 08:24:41 AM »
Quote from: mhiszem on May 31, 2018, 07:48:35 AM
I just got this in my email. Looks like some great improvements to the Slow N Sear. Looks great @ABCbarbecue !

https://abcbarbecue.com/product/slow-n-sear-2-0/?utm_source=Adrenaline+Rush+Newsletter&utm_campaign=2d8f201d2d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_05_31_03_38&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_98bec716df-2d8f201d2d-207304526&mc_cid=2d8f201d2d&mc_eid=38ac6c6bcf
Now i wonder since its mostly riveted and not welded will it be cheaper? Or since the water res is now its own peice will it be more?

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mhiszem

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Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 08:26:51 AM »
It looks like the same price as the plus based on the website.


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Darko

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2018, 08:35:36 AM »
No. It looks like the same price, just riveted instead of welded and a removable water pan.
I wonder if the removable pan is really any advantage over leaving the existing pan empty?
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YardBurner

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2018, 09:19:09 AM »
It would make for a slightly larger sear zone
with the water pan removed.

Curious to how it holds up vs. the welded version.
Of course the Weber char baskets seem to last forever
and they're not SS.
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Mike in Roseville

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 09:22:26 AM »
Something about this seems like a cost cutting move. The only advantage to a removable water trough that I can see is a larger sear area if you weren’t trying to set up a 2-zone fire. You’re basically just making a large “Marty basket.” The stainless looks thinner too. I wonder how much it weighs?


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Firemunkee

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 09:33:24 AM »
Looks interesting. Supposedly weighs about 1lb more than the SnS+ and uses 16-guage 430SS instead of "heavy-gauge" 304. Also looks like it doesn't have that extra lip like the SnS+ does. I guess it's not needed anymore?
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 03:56:38 AM by Firemunkee »
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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 10:27:18 AM »
I'll hand-engrave you a signature limited edition Bigger Better Marty Basket and ship it for half the price of the Gen II S&S! Order now!  ;)

Kind of makes me want to get an XL before it changes to this style, but I already have one I'm using that works just fine. Cuz, you know, I'm Marty after all...
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Mike in Roseville

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 12:26:35 PM »
Quote from: Darko on May 31, 2018, 08:35:36 AM
No. It looks like the same price, just riveted instead of welded and a removable water pan.

It's cheaper/easier to teach people how to attach rivets than it is to weld stainless steel.
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cnmg432

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2018, 12:42:52 PM »
Quote from: Mike in Roseville on May 31, 2018, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: Darko on May 31, 2018, 08:35:36 AM
No. It looks like the same price, just riveted instead of welded and a removable water pan.

It's cheaper/easier to teach people how to attach rivets than it is to weld stainless steel.

I own a machine shop and I'm pretty sure this is exactly what is going on.   
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pbe gummi bear

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2018, 01:02:29 PM »
From the website:

"Can I take out the water reservoir during a low ‘n slow cook so I can hold more coals?

We don’t recommend it. While it’s the perfect place to hold water, the reservoir also functions as a double-wall barrier between the coals and the indirect side of the grill.  Removing the reservoir during an indirect cook will create “hot spots” on the indirect zone that would not be present with the reservoir in place."

Is there actually any empirical evidence for this? I really like the basket functionality of the sns but I'm not convinced that I will need the double wall or water reservoir for indirect cooking. @ABCbarbecue 

Kudos on the redesign. It looks much better from a mfg standpoint without giving up on quality.
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Jules V.

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Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2018, 02:31:27 PM »
Quote from: Firemunkee on May 31, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
Looks interesting. Supposedly weighs about 1lb more than the SnS+ and uses 16-guage 430SS instead of "heavy-gauge" 340. Also looks like it doesn't have that extra lip like the SnS+ does. I guess it's not needed anymore?

430 is a lower quality/ cheaper  type of ss in comparison to 304. It's  a magnetic variety that's more prone to warping under high heat. 430 is also prone to rusting after a prolonged exposure to high temperature, and consequently harder to clean.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 02:38:04 PM by Jules V. »
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LiquidOcelot

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2018, 02:46:29 PM »
I hope they arent cutting corners just to be greedy and up profit. now just hold your comments, i know its all about making money BUT making high quality products for a very Enthusiastic group of people who are willing to pay for it. Then turn around use less quality ss and rivets to improve ease of assembly and up production. Why not just keep with the 304 ss and rivet if you must cut corners welding ? Again i get the reasoning on a business stand point but still i dont wanna shell out the same amount for an inferior product.

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Jules V.

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2018, 03:37:55 PM »
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 31, 2018, 01:02:29 PM


Kudos on the redesign. It looks much better from a mfg standpoint without giving up on quality.
Replacing 304 with 430 is a big downgrade.
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Big Dawg

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Re: Slow n Sear 2.0
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2018, 03:44:27 PM »
Talk about entrepreneurialship . . . this guy is making a cool C-Note just for slapping a new shipping label on the box ! ! !





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