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UserGone

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Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« on: June 29, 2017, 06:52:06 AM »
 Some here will only collect/buy near pristine condition kettles. Not every 18" avocado we find is a perfect 10.
Everything else we collect has a rating down to the craft beer we consume.
  It's only time a kettle rating system should be established. A points system to help us determine any Weber kettle's condition and rarity. We know we have our own personal rating system that makes us decide to purchase or pass on a kettle even if it's a rare Boobie Pink.
I'm thinking of a 100 points system.
For example: Any standard production black kettles that are NIB can only go as high as 88 points.
 If it's a colored kettle you add 1 point. Add another point if it's a rare color such as blue for a total of 90 points.
Then the rarity kettles get extra points:
-Meat cutters add 10 points
-custom by Weber add 10
-Westerner add 9
-Aristocrat add 9
-Chief add 8
-Glen Blue add 8
-chestnut Coppertone add 9
-ranger add 9
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And so on, to be voted on.
This would be a poll where all members can contribute and vote on what rating system to use.
This is not a price guide, just a rating system.


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kettlebb

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 06:56:44 AM »
Based on the thread title we shouldn't consider color or rarity.  I personally would rate a NOS black A code the same as a NOS red A code. If the red had dents and lots of porcelain missing then the black would be in better condition therefore be rated higher. If you look at your proposal it's completely subjective. Rating on condition should be objective.


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Mr.CPHo

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 07:23:22 AM »
Nah.


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UserGone

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Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 07:38:51 AM »
The 100 points rating works with all kettles of all colors up to the 88 points.
A perfect NIB black kettle can only get a high rating of 88 points.
A fair condition Westerner may only receive a rating of 86 points. Poor condition may place this westerner in the 70's but would still be considered collectible just because it's a westerner.


Yes the term condition and rating are different but can still be used in the same sentence to describe an item.
This is why there also needs to be a "Condition" chart rated 1-10.

C10- New and in the original box with paperwork. Can be taken out of box to be viewed. Can be assembled but must remain unused, never cooked in.
C9.5- just like new, fully assembled and without original box. Never cooked in.
C9- appears like new in overall appearance but exhibits very minor wear. Has been cooked in once or twice as they say. Must remain cleaned and degreased after use so it can be inspected.
C8- a complete kettle that has been cooked in. Signs of minor wear may be evident, minor porcelain loss to lid or bowl but otherwise very clean and well cared for. Wheels appear to look new.
C7-obviously has been used and shows general overall wear. Porcelain loss and minor crazing is readily apparent in usual areas. Minor surface rust may be evident. Bowl leg sockets have minor rust. Minor fading and wear to wheels. This grill is a cooker and shows signs of current use. Grease and grime is acceptable.
C6- evidence of heavy wear and cooking. Dents, heavy porcelain chips, heavy crazing and rust is apparent. May be missing replaceable components. May be in need of repair.
C5-
C4-
C3-
C2-
C1- even the scrap man may refuse this kettle



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« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 12:48:53 PM by Smokin Performer »

hawgheaven

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 08:12:07 AM »
And the purpose is? You got what you got, no need to "rate" it IMHO.
Multiple kettles and WSM's. I am not a collector, just a gatherer... and a sick bastard.

demosthenes9

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 08:17:40 AM »
Kettlebb is on point, docking a black from the outset is personal bias.   Me?  I think avocado's are ugly, especially ones with thumb screws (should such a thing exist).   Therefore, if I found one that was C10, absolutely pristine NOS, , the best it would rate is a 78.



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AZ Monsoon

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 08:18:16 AM »
My ratings are:
cooker
looker
looker cooker

56MPG

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 08:22:12 AM »
Mine are all rated in the teens when I'm buying, 95+ when selling. Some of the Weathered Warriors we've seen out-score NIB any day in my book.
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HoosierKettle

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Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 08:49:49 AM »
A Kelly blue book type scale would work decently to rate the condition of a given kettle for trading or selling purposes but I agree with the others, that color and style don't make any sense to grade on that alone.

On top of that, who cares?  I enjoy the kettles with or without scars.


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« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 09:01:44 AM by HoosierKettle »

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Hell Fire Grill

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 09:14:47 AM »
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Travis

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 09:37:28 AM »
Nah.


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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 10:27:41 AM »

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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 10:33:12 AM »
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Re: Condition, Condition, Condition. Kettle rating?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 11:01:16 AM »
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