Deck protection. Read that again, it says D E C K

Started by YardBurner, July 12, 2018, 08:59:00 PM

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YardBurner

May have been covered before, sorry.
What are you guys using under the grills to protect your deck?
I have a couple of those grill pads, one under the Summit gasser
and one under a Performer.
We have composite decking and it melts when
coals hit it.  I keep a 2 gallon jug of water handy
but hey, sometimes you miss one or two.

Thinking about using Durock tile underlayment.
It's rated for outdoor use and I'm pretty sure it can be stained.
It breathes so moisture won't build up and cause mold issues.
The grill pads are fiber cement and so is Durock.
Any thoughts from the grillin gang?
-Rob


lksdrinker

Its amazing how quickly one weber kettle turns into more than a dozen!  Always open to grabbing something interesting so let me know what you've got!

YardBurner

Yeah, so do I.
But looking for something to provide a more seamless
barrier than just a grill pad under each cooker.
For instance, the 26ers foot print won't fit on a grill pad.

The grill pads cost $35-40 each.
A 36" X 60" durock panel is less than $10.

Just thinking out loud and fishing for ideas.

toolhead

#4
you can try aluminum drip trays which are used to place under your car..to detect fluid leaks...very large and ywars ago bought at walmart for like $10 each....buy a few and that will offer good surface area....

i havent tried this ..as i dont use grills on my deck

curious...how do you like composite decking?..
Grills

YardBurner

Problem with trays is that they collect water.

As for the decking.
I wanted #1 clear pressure treated flooring.
Didn't care what the railings were made of.
PT will last a very long time and is cooler underfoot.

She wanted composite.
So we went with composite.

It looks fantastic.
Mops clean.
Can't stand on it in barefeet in the sun.
(just like a driveway)
No worries about splinters.
The smallest ember can cause a little melted pit.
So at grill fire up time I wet the deck down and keep a bucket of water handy.
Not to say I'm careless but, it does happen.
Oh yeah, it's GOD AWFUL EXPENSIVE compared to PT.
Over 2.5X.
Time will tell.

toolhead

yup...thats sounds like a good summary..every material has its up n downs.

for the trays..you can cut off the beveled edges and use sandpaper to sand smooth to aboid sharp edges or go with fiber cement as you are thinking.

i dont think theres a perfect solution for your request

buying enough grill mats for your 2 grills would be optimal and exoensive...but may ne worth it..when you look at the labour n materuals costs of replacing your cokposite decking boards
Grills

YardBurner

Oh, it's not just 2 grills ;D

A 26, a Performer, Summit E-470, '77 red head,
18 OTG, an Outrider, a Smokey Joe for chimney
duty and quick steaks and soon to be added a 2 shelf '10
OT Platinum.

The 2 offset smokers live at ground level on pavers.

When I get the Traeger fixed it's gotta go somewhere too.
(it's a sickness, but we do really use them all :-[)

lksdrinker

Quote from: YardBurner on July 13, 2018, 06:52:34 AM
Yeah, so do I.
But looking for something to provide a more seamless
barrier than just a grill pad under each cooker.
For instance, the 26ers foot print won't fit on a grill pad.

The grill pads cost $35-40 each.
A 36" X 60" durock panel is less than $10.

Just thinking out loud and fishing for ideas.

The pads are expensive!  I have about 5 along the perimeter of my deck...which is angled so the pads have to overlap.  Really seems like a waste of money!  I have durock (hardee maybe) boards but wouldnt trust them out in the weather without some type of coating.  Plus the grill pads sit nice and low and are easy to roll right over (and not trip over!)
Its amazing how quickly one weber kettle turns into more than a dozen!  Always open to grabbing something interesting so let me know what you've got!

YardBurner

The Durock is outdoor rated the Hardeeboard is not.
I'm looking at t the 1/4 inch panels and the only
grill that might have a problem is the Summit gas
and it never moves.  It even has a hard time rolling
onto the Grill Pads.  Very little wheel exposed.

Was going to concrete stain the Durock.
So for $60 plus stain which I already have
it's worth the experiment.  We will see.

dbhost

Sorry man, I pull my kettle out to the paved walk in front of the house close to the kitchen when I do a cook. No risk to the deck, just concrete pavers under me!
3 Kettles. 1998 Daisy Wheel 22.5, 2010 Smokey Joe Silver 14, 2018 Jumbo Joe Premium 22.5.

lksdrinker

Quote from: YardBurner on July 13, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
The Durock is outdoor rated the Hardeeboard is not.
I'm looking at t the 1/4 inch panels and the only
grill that might have a problem is the Summit gas
and it never moves.  It even has a hard time rolling
onto the Grill Pads.  Very little wheel exposed.

Was going to concrete stain the Durock.
So for $60 plus stain which I already have
it's worth the experiment.  We will see.

Well now I gotta double check and see what I actually have extra of sitting in the garage.  I had no idea either one could be used outdoors!  After re-tiling my kitchen floor I thought of trying to tile a "grill area" on my deck but completely scrapped the idea when I figured the concrete board would just absorb moisture and never last.  Still think the deck would give too much and cause the tile to crack....but just the board alone is definitely an idea worth pursuing!
Its amazing how quickly one weber kettle turns into more than a dozen!  Always open to grabbing something interesting so let me know what you've got!

YardBurner

Quote from: lksdrinker on July 13, 2018, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: YardBurner on July 13, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
The Durock is outdoor rated the Hardeeboard is not.
I'm looking at t the 1/4 inch panels and the only
grill that might have a problem is the Summit gas
and it never moves.  It even has a hard time rolling
onto the Grill Pads.  Very little wheel exposed.

Was going to concrete stain the Durock.
So for $60 plus stain which I already have
it's worth the experiment.  We will see.

Well now I gotta double check and see what I actually have extra of sitting in the garage.  I had no idea either one could be used outdoors!  After re-tiling my kitchen floor I thought of trying to tile a "grill area" on my deck but completely scrapped the idea when I figured the concrete board would just absorb moisture and never last.  Still think the deck would give too much and cause the tile to crack....but just the board alone is definitely an idea worth pursuing!
Outdoor kitchen islands use durock all the time.  Synthetic stone, stucco, brick veneer etc. as covering with tile or other tops.  High humidity would do more damage than the occasional rain I would think

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You've sold me on the Durock but I've never seen it.
It's the iconic symbol for the backyard. It's family/friends, food and fun. What more do you need to feel everything [is] going to be all right. As long as we can still have a BBQ in our backyard, the world seems a bit of a better place. At least for that moment. -reillyranch