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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: MartyG on February 11, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
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Is this it? Not as reflective as the old red, but I have to see one in person before I pass judgement. If this is close to the color, it's not bad.
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Yeah the crimson color is not bad...better than brick red for sure. here's some more crimson pics from tvwbb guys...
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http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?45317-PHOTOS-2014-Weber-Charcoal-Grills/page2
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I like the picture of all four lines up in a row on the patio.
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Looking at the crimson with the copper and the blue, it makes for a nice color combo. Too bad that they discontinued blue. There's enough room for both crimson and blue. I like that red. Still want to see one in person.
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Oh and the crimson looks like of an old red that darkens when wicked hot.
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Last photos looks identical in color to my brick red performer...
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Last photos looks identical in color to my brick red performer...
The lighting in that last photo is a little off...must be the fluorescents. I've seen a crimson otg at Ace...it is a little redder than the brick red performers IMO.
Someone needs to do a side by side!
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Now they just all need some wood handles!
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Last photos looks identical in color to my brick red performer...
The lighting in that last photo is a little off...must be the fluorescents. I've seen a crimson otg at Ace...it is a little redder than the brick red performers IMO.
Someone needs to do a side by side!
In colorimetry, metamerism is the matching of apparent color of objects with different spectral power distributions. Colors that match this way are called metamers. A spectral power distribution describes the proportion of total light emitted, transmitted, or reflected by a color sample at every visible wavelength; it precisely defines the light from any physical stimulus. However, the human eye contains only three color receptors (3 types of cone cells), which means that all colors are reduced to three sensory quantities, called the tristimulus values. Metamerism occurs because each type of cone responds to the cumulative energy from a broad range of wavelengths, so that different combinations of light across all wavelengths can produce an equivalent receptor response and the same tristimulus values or color sensation.
Metameric matches are quite common, especially in near neutral (grayed or whitish colors) or dark colors. As colors become lighter or more saturated, the range of possible metameric matches (different combinations of light wavelengths) becomes smaller, especially in surface colors.
Metameric matches made between two light sources provide the trichromatic basis of colorimetry. For any given light stimulus, regardless of the form of its spectral emittance curve, there always exists a unique mixture of three "primary" lights that when added together, or added to the stimulus, will exactly match it.
The basis for nearly all commercially available color image reproduction processes such as photography, television, printing, and digital imaging, is the ability to make metameric color matches. Making metamerism matches using reflective materials is more complex. The appearance of surface colors is defined by the product of the spectral reflectance curve of the material and the spectral emittance curve of the light source shining on it. As a result, the color of surfaces depends on the light source used to illuminate them.
The term illuminant metameric failure is sometimes used to describe situations where two material samples match when viewed under one light source but not another. Most types of fluorescent lights produce an irregular or peaky spectral emittance curve, so that two materials under fluorescent light might not match, even though they are a metameric match to an incandescent "white" light source with a nearly flat or smooth emittance curve. Material colors that match under one source will often appear different under the other.
Normally, material attributes such as translucency, gloss or surface texture are not considered in color matching. However geometric metameric failure can occur when two samples match when viewed from one angle, but then fail to match when viewed from a different angle. A common example is the color variation that appears in pearlescent automobile finishes or "metallic" paper; e.g., Kodak Endura Metallic, Fujicolor Crystal Archive Digital Pearl.
Observer metameric failure can occur because of differences in color vision between observers. The common source of observer metameric failure is colorblindness, but it is also not uncommon among "normal" observers. In all cases, the proportion of long-wavelength-sensitive cones to medium-wavelength-sensitive cones in the retina, the profile of light sensitivity in each type of cone, and the amount of yellowing in the lens and macular pigment of the eye, differs from one person to the next. This alters the relative importance of different wavelengths in a spectral power distribution to each observer's color perception. As a result, two spectrally dissimilar lights or surfaces may produce a color match for one observer but fail to match when viewed by a second observer.
Finally, field-size metameric failure occurs because the relative proportions of the three cone types in the retina vary from the center of the visual field to the periphery, so that colors that match when viewed as very small, centrally fixated areas may appear different when presented as large color areas. In many industrial applications, large field color matches are used to define color tolerances.
The difference in the spectral compositions of two metameric stimuli is often referred to as the degree of metamerism. The sensitivity of a metameric match to any changes in the spectral elements that form the colors depend on the degree of metamerism. Two stimuli with a high degree of metamerism are likely to be very sensitive to any changes in the illuminant, material composition, observer, field of view, and so on. The word metamerism is often incorrectly used to indicate a metameric failure rather than a match, or incorrectly used to describe a situation in which a metameric match is easily degraded by a slight change in conditions, such as a change in the illuminant.
Moral of the story is- Only you can prevent metameric failure!
Source: Wikipedia and MartyG
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I have yet to see a copper or crimson in person. Maybe if all this damn snow melts the stores around here will start stocking them. I'd love a side by side photo.
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Thanks for volunteering to carry your red kettle into your local ace so you can compare!
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The red isn't bad and I would have to imagine Weber wants to have it's most iconic color available, but it's probably a challenge.
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I've seen this color, and while the SHADE (or metameric effect if you're PBE) of red is pleasing to the eye, the FINISH absolutely sucks. It has a flat, yet curiously orange-peeled, lack of shine that looks like somebody painted a regular black kettle with that water-based "Tempera" paint we used to use in grade school.
Sorry, I love the color, but the finish would drive me nuts... ??? (Guess I'm a sucker for a the shiny finish on a black kettle.)
Having said that.. Max, those colors REALLY look nice together. Well done!
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I saw one recently, actually two. The one at Lowes looked shinier, but it was due to the overhead lighting. The second one I saw was in a different store with more natural lighting and the color looked rather dull and was a matte finish. It actually looked sort of brownish. The copper finish is a matte finish as well. I did not care much for either finish to be honest. I had high expectations for the copper, but on the performer, with the new performer look (which I don't care for either)....it just looked rather cheap.
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Wouldn't it be cool if the new Crimson color got bright red when it got heated up? Like in reverse of what the red kettles do now! Craig, that red one of your's sure is bright. I like the ones without the darker shaded "mist" ring so much better!
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For those complaining about the 'finish' on the new Crimsons (and coppers to a degree), I have to agree, and in fact add that it makes them look sort of "thin" and "tinny". Fundamentally, it looks like a spray job, not a thick porcelain coating. Just not the same weight to the appearance of older kettles.
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Are we certain it's actually porcelain in the first place? I wonder if you could use some kind of buffing compound on it to bring up the gloss.
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For those complaining about the 'finish' on the new Crimsons (and coppers to a degree), I have to agree, and in fact add that it makes them look sort of "thin" and "tinny". Fundamentally, it looks like a spray job, not a thick porcelain coating. Just not the same weight to the appearance of older kettles.
interesting, it just dawned on me that THAT is exactly my thought.
The copper didn't feel like a thick porcelain finish. Now i want to buy one just so i can chip it up and see how durable it is.
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interesting, it just dawned on me that THAT is exactly my thought.
The copper didn't feel like a thick porcelain finish. Now i want to buy one just so i can chip it up and see how durable it is.
I know for a fact that the copper chips. This happened in shipping.
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thanks for posting that!
Sorry about the chips - is Weber sending a replacement?
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Shit, all the kettles chip. I've had it happen to 3 that I purchased NIB - blue, black, and a WSM
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thanks for posting that!
Sorry about the chips - is Weber sending a replacement?
I took it back to Lowes and bought a blue kettle online. I did not like the dull finish on it.
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I find it crazy everyone keeps complaining about these new colors. Is everyone in the world just predisposed to complain about everything? I'll take one of each and send Weber a thank you note for giving the Weber community fresh colors......I'm sure they will be real excited to keep making new stuff to appease the chorus of complainers.....
Here is a picture of the dull, cheap, crummy redhead they just gave to all the people who have been asking for it for two decades.....Is there anything we can find nice to say anymore?
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In my case, I ordered the copper based on the pic of a shiny copper kettle on the Lowes website as soon as they became available. I was excited and expecting the glossy finish as pictured. I assumed it would look like the discontinued Target kettles. I appreciate Weber for bringing on new colors but I was not willing to give up $150 for a damaged kettle with a finish I was unhappy with. I still want to see a crimson in person but the two ACE Hardware stores near me do not have them on display.
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It's not as shiny as the old ones I can tell you that. I have a ton of old grills from the mid 70's that are not super shiny, and not to mention the finish is very lumpy. Maybe those would be complained about nowadays. I will tell you the crimson has as just as much shine as Jeff's original Black Wood Dale with the Solid triangle on the bottom. I will also tell you I would be happy with either/or both grills...
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I bet the new crimson and copper kettles would shine right up.
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I was set to order a crimson performer from Ace. I really just wanted something that wasn't the standard black. When I found the brick red model for $50 less, I went that route. I'm sure I'd have been happy with either.
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Bottom line, who has a Crimson and does it change color? Just want to know...
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My wife just have me a copper otg. I have no real issues with it. I like the color as much as any of mine. Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm into collecting colors. It's my first nib grill and probably the last for a long time. Personally I enjoy the character of a older grill. I like cleaning it up and putting it back to use. If a new crimson shows up and cl or a garage sale I'd go for it.
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If I recall the brick red weren't that shiny either
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My wife just have me a copper otg. I have no real issues with it. I like the color as much as any of mine. Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm into collecting colors. It's my first nib grill and probably the last for a long time. Personally I enjoy the character of a older grill. I like cleaning it up and putting it back to use. If a new crimson shows up and cl or a garage sale I'd go for it.
Is your camera broke? Don't make me come up there!
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If I recall the brick red weren't that shiny either
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You recall correctly...and I'm okay with it. 8)
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My wife just have me a copper otg. I have no real issues with it. I like the color as much as any of mine. Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm into collecting colors. It's my first nib grill and probably the last for a long time. Personally I enjoy the character of a older grill. I like cleaning it up and putting it back to use. If a new crimson shows up and cl or a garage sale I'd go for it.
Is your camera broke? Don't make me come up there!
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I had to hurry putting it together and realized after I didn't have just a shot of the grill. Oh well people in the frame make pictures more interesting. :)
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As my bride would say "What good is the picture without somebody in it." Great looking daughters, I feel sorry for you in 10 years Ted. Just greet dates with a conceal and carry, revealed.
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My brick red is more a matte finish than super glossy, but I still love the way it looks and cooks.
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Brian.
I like the crimson color. The copper is fine too. But there is something thin about the new kettles, which is what I am "complaining" about. They just have this "sprayed" appearance as opposed to a "dipped enamel" appearance. I am not sure if it is all related to the finish, or if the stock is thinner too. I just don't know, and don't pretend to have all the answers. So if that's "complaining", I am ok with that I guess and will be a "complainer".
My work horse green M/T is not shiney, but it is stout. I have this sinking feeling that newer products are just marginally less robust than the previous ones. I hope it is just a personal case of "Grumpy Old Man" syndrome, but ever since the lids changed to "Engineered in ....", the grills don't seem as substantial.
For the record, so that I am clear, I would be glad to test this theory on a new Crimson Performer if someone wants to drop one off here.
Also, get off my lawn.
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Also, get off my lawn.
Funniest post ever. I probably chuckled at three different times.
That aside, I do agree with G$. I can't put my finger on it exactly, but something is up over at Weber. At least their customer service is willing to stand behind their kettles..........for now. ::)
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There's no doubt the newer kettles are thinner, top and bowl. Some of my old beasts weigh a ton. Gerd, we'd get along great as two grumpy old men...and I'm only 39! My wife teases me all the time about it...and if you ever saw my lawn you bet you'd get yelled at to stay off it!
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Hmmm? Can anyone say ....Made in China?
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we'd get along great as two grumpy old men...and I'm only 39!
Ditto. But it feels like 89 most days.
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They are actually made about ten miles from my house. For the record I don't live in China. Okay maybe they aren't as thick as the older grills, so what? Thinner by what .010? Do we think ten thousands of extra metal will help cook your hot dog better? Prob make no difference. It's not like they are cast iron and they retain heat. It's a sheet metal container to hold charcoal. I think the new colors are welcome and I can't wait to get them....Let's all chill, try to be positive about new Weber stuff they will continue to give us new stuff. We don't need negativity. It's like the stainless performer, everybody bitched about the new plastic table....personally I love mine, and I like more than my SS perf. That's just me. I feel the whole cart on the new performer is 100% better than the stainless. The tubular steel feels solid. The cart doesn't rot out. There isn't a weird handle in the middle of my workspace, I think it's better. That's just how I am.
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They are actually made about ten miles from my house. For the record I don't live in China. Okay maybe they aren't as thick as the older grills, so what? It's not like they are cast iron and they retain heat. It's a sheet metal container to hold charcoal. I think the new colors are welcome and I can't wait to get them....
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From this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-27/weber-grills-mostly-made-in-america-by-private-equity
Weber-Stephen has changed more in the past decade than it did in the previous half-century. It contracted to have grills built in China to go with production in Huntley and Palatine. It agreed to stop labeling products “Made in USA” to settle a class-action lawsuit that accused it of buying components from China and Taiwan suppliers. (The company denied wrongdoing.)
When I was talking to the local guy that is buddies with the Weber rep, he mentioned China spun products. The point is not that grills and components are NOT made in Illinois, it is that they ARE also made elsewhere. To be clear, I have no idea where any particular performer, Crimson or otherwise, was made. (The local guy thought many or most Euro grills came from China - I do not consider his opinion as fact or anything close to it). But I do think the quality has 'changed', and that is probably not a good thing, and it is ok to say so.
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Saying something changed and it's probably not good is not is pure conjecture. I don't follow that logic.
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Saying something changed and it's probably not good is not is pure conjecture. I don't follow that logic.
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To say something changed (it did) and that I do not like it (I don't) is not conjecture, it is opinion formed from a fact.
By the way, I also think plastic handles suck. Wood ones are freaking WAAAYYY better. (Handles changed: fact; they suck: opinion)
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"Do we think ten thousands of extra metal will help cook your hot dog better?"
.... I smell a tagline....... 8)
Personally, I think thickness counts......
I scraped down below the 3/16" of scrud in the bottom of one the smokers ( the ones that run @ 260 indefinitely) the other day and lo & behold.....pristine porcelain.....thickness counts.....and it protects...... :o
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When I was looking at the new ones, the finish didn't seem quite the same to me either. Asisde from being a matte finish, I would agree with the person above who said it seemed "thinner." The entire kettle lid felt lighter to me actually.
The red finish in the pics above looks bright due to overhead fluorescent lighting. In daylight it looks much more dull
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Saying something changed and it's probably not good is not is pure conjecture. I don't follow that logic.
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To say something changed (it did) and that I do not like it (I don't) is not conjecture, it is opinion formed from a fact.
By the way, I also think plastic handles suck. Wood ones are freaking WAAAYYY better. (Handles changed: fact; they suck: opinion)
For the record your opinion is not fact. There is no proof that anything is worse, YOU just don't like it for no other reason than you just don't like it. Which is fine, but it's YOUR opinion. Not fact. Just because something is different does not make it worse. Sure some things get worse with change, some get better. I would just never see something different then automatically say it's worse. I don't want be that guy. I guess it's the same logic of just wanting to complain, I don't agree with that either.
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I went back and re-read everything I wrote. I'm not sure how else to explain that my point of view is just my opinion, and distinct and different from the certain other items that are fact, so I won't continue to try.
People should buy stuff they like. Not everybody agrees on what's best. Shrug.
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Hey....maybe they got a new process for appling & curing the finish that WON'T CHIP EVER !!!!!
I remember the color of the Target Coppers....Pantone 876 almost exactly * it was pretty shiny, just a little less than the other colors....
The new ones colors may very well be using some new way of curing, ya think?
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buckie, I don't think so based on dwnthehatchs post in this very thread.
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to be honest, even grill lids 5 years ago felt and sounded lighter than old ones while in the store.
i have yet to see anyone compare with a micro caliper and a scale
when i handled the lids of my old baby blue from the 60s and compared it to a OTS black from 2009 - the difference was very slight and I couldn't determine if it was pure perception or fact.
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Weber has been mostly made in IL, but as the article mentioned above they source components from overseas too. If you haven't noticed the new kettles now say "designed and engineering in IL" on the top vent or something like that. I anticipate that some of the changes we have been seeing is to improve global sourcing. For example, eliminating the welded handle on the top lids allows for easier shipping of the lids without a secondary process of attaching the handle.
No, you guys are not imagining things. the porcelain has probably gotten thinner. Check out this article on the Huntley factory: http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/companies/2012/08/03/weber-grill.fortune/index.html
on pg 4 it show's people spraying the kettle manually. In the past few years the industry has seen alot of headway made in sprayer efficiency and implementation of robotic spraying, so the finish has probably gotten thinner but more consistent.
Here's Weber on How it's made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS1sJ8N734k
Here's a Weber self produced video of the factory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlO6wf3DGOM
In the gas grill factory video, you can see the robots in action at 4:30 http://youtu.be/saMAFBPRSas
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I recently seen a Copper at Lowes, was not that impressed. Just IMO. If you have a classic car with an orange peel paint job, I am sure it would be rejected.
I agree with Troy, I have a OT Black top and when I hold the Yellow, to me, it feels like a noticeable weight difference. Grill being early 70's.
There is a thread way back where, Reilly did some weigh tests. There was slight difference, if I remember correctly. But again, I am old...
Buckie, Pantone(R) 876. Be careful it is a registered trade mark. Just Fun'n ya. ;)
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Now I don't hardly know her
But I think I could love her
Crimson Performer
Over and over...
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Dull paint isn't bad all the time.... just sayin'
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Agree, there was a time I lusted after a matte black Eddy Merckx road frame. I would not mind a nice new matte black Performer in a brushed stainless frame either.
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Now I don't hardly know her
But I think I could love her
Crimson Performer
Over and over...
OH, THANKS ONE HELL OF ALOT!!>:(
That will be stuck in my head for the rest of the week!! :D
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Well I'm excited that Weber has offered these new colors. My only beef is that they dropped blue from the lineup. Im sure that color will come back again in a few years. Id like to see a crimson outside in natural light for sure. Either way, I'd cook on it or a copper..
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I find it crazy everyone keeps complaining about these new colors. Is everyone in the world just predisposed to complain about everything? I'll take one of each and send Weber a thank you note for giving the Weber community fresh colors......I'm sure they will be real excited to keep making new stuff to appease the chorus of complainers.....
Here is a picture of the dull, cheap, crummy redhead they just gave to all the people who have been asking for it for two decades.....Is there anything we can find nice to say anymore?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C4QbhpaaDxA/UvEqZfA84fI/AAAAAAAAKyE/g5h0QUWygdA/w924-h520-no/IMG_20140204_115640138_HDR.jpg)
Brian,
The new colors suck - everyone here knows it. Why can't Weber offer the same colors in the U.S. that they offer in Europe? Who here would pick the new Crimson or Copper over these colors:
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/sttony1208/Grills/EuropeanWebers.jpg) (http://s836.photobucket.com/user/sttony1208/media/Grills/EuropeanWebers.jpg.html)
Why should the French be offered better colors than me? From an American company!
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I have a feeling the boys on the other side of the pond are asking, "why can't we have Crimson!"
I can't wait to see the first person to get a Crimson Performer. I'd love to see an outdoor photo of it with some thin blue smoke!
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I have a feeling the boys on the other side of the pond are asking, "why can't we have Crimson!"
Maybe. Then offer all colors to both sides.
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This is why we need a "Weber Custom Shop" so that we can order our new grill in any color/configuration we want.
Take a page from the Martin Guitar company...
Winz
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buckie, I don't think so based on dwnthehatchs post in this very thread.
Yeah, I suppose they'll always chip if knocked into or dropped.....just tryin' to lighten the mood a bit..... 8)
Ed Reilly took a bunch of different lids, I think it was & weighed them to find the new / old differences.....definitely there......
From March 25, 2013
Ok, I weighted the old and new lids and found the following:
New 2013
14.5-1lbs 5oz
18.5-4lbs 4oz
22.5-6lbs 4oz
26.5-12lbs 5oz
Old various dates
14.5 -2lbs red wood handle "K"
18.5-5lbs Woodale custom 1956ish
22.5-7lbs 5oz Imperial blue with metal handle
22.5-7lbs 5oz red lid with wood handle
26.6-10lbs 5oz Brown Warrior wood handle
A new 26 is heavier for some reason.....but the metal was definitely thicker & would produce a much better hot dog !
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buckie, I don't think so based on dwnthehatchs post in this very thread.
Yeah, I suppose they'll always chip if knocked into or dropped.....just tryin' to lighten the mood a bit..... 8)
Ed Reilly took a bunch of different lids, I think it was & weighed them to find the new / old differences.....definitely there......
From March 25, 2013
Ok, I weighted the old and new lids and found the following:
New 2013
14.5-1lbs 5oz
18.5-4lbs 4oz
22.5-6lbs 4oz
26.5-12lbs 5oz
Old various dates
14.5 -2lbs red wood handle "K"
18.5-5lbs Woodale custom 1956ish
22.5-7lbs 5oz Imperial blue with metal handle
22.5-7lbs 5oz red lid with wood handle
26.6-10lbs 5oz Brown Warrior wood handle
A new 26 is heavier for some reason.....but the metal was definitely thicker & would produce a much better hot dog !
i remember those measurements.
i don't remember the details though.
- handles removed?
- free of all grease and gunk?
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I find it crazy everyone keeps complaining about these new colors. Is everyone in the world just predisposed to complain about everything? I'll take one of each and send Weber a thank you note for giving the Weber community fresh colors......I'm sure they will be real excited to keep making new stuff to appease the chorus of complainers.....
Here is a picture of the dull, cheap, crummy redhead they just gave to all the people who have been asking for it for two decades.....Is there anything we can find nice to say anymore?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C4QbhpaaDxA/UvEqZfA84fI/AAAAAAAAKyE/g5h0QUWygdA/w924-h520-no/IMG_20140204_115640138_HDR.jpg)
Brian,
The new colors suck - everyone here knows it. Why can't Weber offer the same colors in the U.S. that they offer in Europe? Who here would pick the new Crimson or Copper over these colors:
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/sttony1208/Grills/EuropeanWebers.jpg) (http://s836.photobucket.com/user/sttony1208/media/Grills/EuropeanWebers.jpg.html)
Why should the French be offered better colors than me? From an American company!
I love the new colors, I have no complaints. You all realize the finish is probably the same on those in Europe as they are here, that dull shine. Something else to complain about....
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I went back and re-read everything I wrote. I'm not sure how else to explain that my point of view is just my opinion, and distinct and different from the certain other items that are fact, so I won't continue to try.
People should buy stuff they like. Not everybody agrees on what's best. Shrug.
Agreed, maybe what I'm trying to say is, you may not like the finish, but it doesn't make the grill "no good". It may cook exactly the same....so it's not "bad" you just don't care for it....
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Your camera is way better than mine. Here's what I shot at Ace on Tuesday. I want to see one in the wild. You be the judge.
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Z, I am pretty sure the euro colors are shiny.
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Your camera is way better than mine. Here's what I shot at Ace on Tuesday. I want to see one in the wild. You be the judge.
That looks like the Brick Red I just bought from Ace last Saturday.
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Your camera is way better than mine. Here's what I shot at Ace on Tuesday. I want to see one in the wild. You be the judge.
That looks like the Brick Red I just bought from Ace last Saturday.
My thoughts exactly, but it's labeled as a crimson on the Ace sticker.
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Your camera is way better than mine. Here's what I shot at Ace on Tuesday. I want to see one in the wild. You be the judge.
That looks like the Brick Red I just bought from Ace last Saturday.
My thoughts exactly, but it's labeled as a crimson on the Ace sticker.
Surely an employee messed up.
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Your camera is way better than mine. Here's what I shot at Ace on Tuesday. I want to see one in the wild. You be the judge.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/21/qupe3e9u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/21/ugu3a3ej.jpg)
This is EXACTLY what the one I saw looked like as well. The color seemed "off" to my eye, and the finish was 'satin' at best. It wasn't a conscious opinion, just an instant gut-cringe the minute I realized what I was looking at. (new crimson)
The one Zavod posted with the green "grass" in the background doesn't bother me as much. I'd buy that...
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They did have a AA code brick red Performer that used to sit where this one is displayed until right before Christmas.
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Z, I am pretty sure the euro colors are shiny.
So someplace in China makes all these grills, then a conscious decision is made to make some colors dull and they are shipped here, and then other colors are made shiny and sweet, and all of those are sent to Europe? That sounds suspect....just saying
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I don't know where these things get sprayed. But the euro ones are shiny so yes, someone is deciding that it's ok for the crimson to be dull.
White (Bone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAmLvP5e-_4
Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W88KqopRqHo
Blue wave SJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vik_3oEd5tg
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You said bone....
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Copper. What's wrong with these pictures. Taken at Lowes this afternoon.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/gy7apa7a.jpg)
This was on the neighboring black OTG..
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/te9umedy.jpg)
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Dull paint isn't bad all the time.... just sayin'
(http://www.mikewphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120429_deBruyn_FrozenM3_0147.jpg)
That'll buff out. ;D
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