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Title: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: pbe gummi bear on February 09, 2014, 08:48:09 AM
I thought it might be fun to guess how much this goes for like we did with the nib offset red SJ. Put your guesses here! This will be for final auction value exclusive of shipping. This thread is meant purely for fun and not for rants about expensive desirable kettles.

I guess $1351.50.  The winner gets bragging rights and maybe and empty wallet if you're bidding on ebay too.  8) I'll compile it at the top. Good luck ebay bidders and guessers on the sidelines!

1. pbe gummi bear $1,351.50
2. Duke $1,275.00
3. 1Buckie $1,500.00
4. MaxBobcat $1,099.98
5. Craig $1701.50
6. Salad $1,198.32
7. Landgraftj $6.66
8. OGlenn $803.00
9. jcnaz $951.99
10. Ramsfan $989.00
11. Golly $1,274.61
12. TedB $1,234.56
13. Blackdog043 $1,375.00
14. Glrasmussen $1496.97
15. Harris92 $2550.00
16. MartyG $2,175.00
17. Cookiebaggs $2,250.00
18. Peaspurple $2,300.00
19. Tatooedant $1,415.00
20. Ken Mc $3,000 *Max so far
21.AZ_MIKEY $1313.13
22. Esq3685 $1650.00
23. G$ $2625.17
24. Argentflame $2800.00
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Duke on February 09, 2014, 08:55:59 AM
$1,275
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Post by: 1buckie on February 09, 2014, 08:57:52 AM


 1500 quattloos.......***




*** for the Star Trek fans in the audience...... 8)
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: MaxBobcat on February 09, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
1099.98 US AMERICAN

 :o
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Post by: salad on February 09, 2014, 09:21:22 AM
$1,198.32
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Post by: landgraftj on February 09, 2014, 09:23:27 AM
$6.66
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Post by: OGlenn on February 09, 2014, 09:31:56 AM
$803. I'm wondering if it will end up as a cooker or a looker?
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Post by: jcnaz on February 09, 2014, 10:28:22 AM
$951.99
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Post by: Craig on February 09, 2014, 10:33:58 AM
"One dollar, Bob!" j/k....   

$1,701.50 
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Post by: ramsfan on February 09, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
$989.00 USD
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Post by: Golly on February 09, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
$1274.61
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Post by: Ted B on February 09, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
$1,234.56
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Post by: blackdog043 on February 09, 2014, 05:04:34 PM
$1,375.00
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Post by: kendoll on February 09, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
$1,234.56
I see what you did there. :)

Ken
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Post by: Ted B on February 09, 2014, 05:49:13 PM
:D
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Post by: glrasmussen on February 09, 2014, 07:52:45 PM
Can't even fathom. It is already at $550 plus and reserve not met...
$1496.97
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Post by: harris92 on February 10, 2014, 04:31:42 AM
$2,550....
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Post by: MartyG on February 10, 2014, 04:36:12 AM
$2,175.00
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: pbe gummi bear on February 10, 2014, 04:46:06 AM
Can't even fathom. It is already at $550 plus and reserve not met...
$1496.97

It's at $800 and the reserve had been lifted! Looks like this is going to a new home for sure.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Cookiebaggs on February 10, 2014, 04:47:23 AM
$800 now.  2K+ definately seems to be the way this one is going. 

$2250
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: ramsfan on February 10, 2014, 04:49:18 AM
Now that the reserve has been met, things will slow down until the last day.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: SlickedBack on February 10, 2014, 05:09:58 AM
It's a good looking cooker but what makes it such a desirable piece?


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Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: landgraftj on February 10, 2014, 05:12:50 AM
The rarity SlickedBack, can't say I know of anyone who has one. I personally wouldn't spend that kind of cash on a grill. Hell I could go on vacation for what this will sell for.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: SlickedBack on February 10, 2014, 05:26:10 AM
A vacation in a warm place too!! Thank you for filling me in. It is a very nice color scheme.


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Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Cookiebaggs on February 10, 2014, 05:45:39 AM
Other than the one in the auction and this one, (which two WKC members have tried unsuccessfully to buy) all I've ever seen are the ones in the brochures. 

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z276/zavod112/westerner_zps9fc5dd50.jpg)

Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: G$ on February 10, 2014, 06:07:58 AM
$2625.17

And cookie, I bet more than two have reached out about that Westerner.     :-X     I have seen one other around.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Cookiebaggs on February 10, 2014, 06:18:40 AM
I'll bet you are right.    ;)

The Westerner, or any old 22"/26" 50's-60's Weber is one that I hope to find back in the corner of a garage/rummage sale someday. 
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: G on February 10, 2014, 06:19:02 AM
Theres a few more out there....
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/the-westerner/
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: SlickedBack on February 10, 2014, 07:12:41 AM
I tried to research it but Google sends me back to us at the WKC. How many were produced is my question?


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Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Craig on February 10, 2014, 07:19:06 AM
Unknown as to how many were produced. If my continued research is right, the Westerner was introduced in 1958 as a MTH kettle, though not shown in the 1962 or 1964, or 1966 catalogs, they featured a grey Fleetwood in '62 (Brian's "Grandpa" Kettle) and George Stephen cooking on a red Aristocrat in the '64-'66 catalogs (same image used in both). The Westerner is pictured again as a MBH 26 in the 1967-68 catalog just like the one that's in the auction, but is gone by 1972. We have yet to see any catalogs from 1969-1971, but its a good bet that The Westerner along with the Estate (Chestnut Coppertone/pink 22) were most likely discontinued after 1968 favor of the Copper Mist (brown) line of kettles by 1969 as evident from the earliest known browns having the Patent Pending vents and we have yet to see any Pat. Pending pinks or Steer heads OR browns with pre patent thumbscrews for that matter.

So in short order..... Westerner estimated timeline of manufacture: 1958-1968

Estimated age of the one in the auction based on its rounded tab lid vent.... 1964-1968 or thereabouts. Note: that is my best guess and NOT fact. This is based on examples we have seen of kettles with wood lid handles but still sport squared tabs on Wood Dale stamped lid vents.


Ok, I'll take my nerd glasses off and may the best Grillfella win.  8)

Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Peaspurple on February 10, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
I say $2300.00
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Post by: tattooedant on February 10, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
$1415.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: 1buckie on February 10, 2014, 10:30:37 AM

 How many were produced is my question?



Unknown as to how many were produced.



 Yep......this is the "Speculation Thread" alright.........


 we can't hardly even get figures on much more "normal" kettle production quantities, these small number ones I guess would surely be impossible?
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Ken Mc on February 10, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
$3000.00 big ones !!
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Post by: AZ_MIKEY on February 11, 2014, 11:50:53 AM
$1313.13
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Post by: dazzo on February 11, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
"Landgraftj $6.66"

Rick $1,666.66   ::)

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Post by: esq3585 on February 11, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
$1650
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Post by: argentflame on February 11, 2014, 08:47:33 PM
$2800
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Post by: tattooedant on February 11, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
Currently at $1470. Half of the list is out already. Should've doubled my original guess to $2830... ::)
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: pbe gummi bear on February 12, 2014, 02:22:16 AM
(http://www.xboxoneforums.net/forum/attachments/790d1389388275-what-s-your-day-job-escalated-quickly.jpg)
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: G$ on February 12, 2014, 06:29:47 AM
gummi must have me on "ignore".
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Post by: Troy on February 12, 2014, 07:56:14 AM
gummi must have me on "ignore".

gummi has been doing a lot of illegal drugs lately
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Duke on February 12, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
gummi must have me on "ignore".

gummi has been doing a lot of illegal drugs lately
Not illegal, just lot's of poppers.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: dazzo on February 12, 2014, 09:13:18 AM
Currently at $1470. Half of the list is out already.

And now $1515.

I'm prepared to be slapped, and I know hobbies are expensive, but, for a "grill" !?? - granted it's "THE" grill, but...

Maybe Weber is trying to buy it back    8)

Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Duke on February 12, 2014, 09:15:48 AM
Currently at $1470. Half of the list is out already.

And now $1515.

I'm prepared to be slapped, and I know hobbies are expensive, but, for a "grill" !?? - granted it's "THE" grill, but...

Maybe Weber is trying to buy it back    8)

No, BBQ Boy wants it for his collection in Germany. Weber could care less.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: glrasmussen on February 12, 2014, 09:24:51 AM
Anybody know what this package cost back in the day?
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Jeff on February 12, 2014, 10:00:40 AM
Greg, it cost 74.95.   Check out the Gallery with the new write up on the Westerner.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: glrasmussen on February 12, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
Greg, it cost 74.95.   Check out the Gallery with the new write up on the Westerner.

Thanks Jeff!
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Craig on February 12, 2014, 10:21:19 AM
I think Weber already has a Westerner, but with a Chief dome...
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: 1buckie on February 12, 2014, 12:04:49 PM

Currently at $1470. Half of the list is out already.

And now $1515.

I'm prepared to be slapped, and I know hobbies are expensive, but, for a "grill" !?? - granted it's "THE" grill, but...

Maybe Weber is trying to buy it back    8)





 Not out of the running yet......I bid in quatloos.....still trying to figger the exchange rate...... 8)




 1500 quattloos.......***


*** for the Star Trek fans in the audience...... 8)
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: pbe gummi bear on February 12, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
gummi must have me on "ignore".

Sorry G$ for missing you! I'll add you when I get to my PC. You still have a chance to win. :-)
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: kaz on February 15, 2014, 12:14:59 PM
$2000
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Bman on February 15, 2014, 12:39:59 PM
Unknown as to how many were produced. If my continued research is right, the Westerner was introduced in 1958 as a MTH kettle, though not shown in the 1962 or 1964, or 1966 catalogs, they featured a grey Fleetwood in '62 (Brian's "Grandpa" Kettle) and George Stephen cooking on a red Aristocrat in the '64-'66 catalogs (same image used in both). The Westerner is pictured again as a MBH 26 in the 1967-68 catalog just like the one that's in the auction, but is gone by 1972. We have yet to see any catalogs from 1969-1971, but its a good bet that The Westerner along with the Estate (Chestnut Coppertone/pink 22) were most likely discontinued after 1968 favor of the Copper Mist (brown) line of kettles by 1969 as evident from the earliest known browns having the Patent Pending vents and we have yet to see any Pat. Pending pinks or Steer heads OR browns with pre patent thumbscrews for that matter.

So in short order..... Westerner estimated timeline of manufacture: 1958-1968

Estimated age of the one in the auction based on its rounded tab lid vent.... 1964-1968 or thereabouts. Note: that is my best guess and NOT fact. This is based on examples we have seen of kettles with wood lid handles but still sport squared tabs on Wood Dale stamped lid vents.


Ok, I'll take my nerd glasses off and may the best Grillfella win.  8)



For Gawds sake already --- can we get the Age Guide comments back up and running?   This is golden information worthy of a copy/paste there.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Duke on February 15, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Unknown as to how many were produced. If my continued research is right, the Westerner was introduced in 1958 as a MTH kettle, though not shown in the 1962 or 1964, or 1966 catalogs, they featured a grey Fleetwood in '62 (Brian's "Grandpa" Kettle) and George Stephen cooking on a red Aristocrat in the '64-'66 catalogs (same image used in both). The Westerner is pictured again as a MBH 26 in the 1967-68 catalog just like the one that's in the auction, but is gone by 1972. We have yet to see any catalogs from 1969-1971, but its a good bet that The Westerner along with the Estate (Chestnut Coppertone/pink 22) were most likely discontinued after 1968 favor of the Copper Mist (brown) line of kettles by 1969 as evident from the earliest known browns having the Patent Pending vents and we have yet to see any Pat. Pending pinks or Steer heads OR browns with pre patent thumbscrews for that matter.

So in short order..... Westerner estimated timeline of manufacture: 1958-1968

Estimated age of the one in the auction based on its rounded tab lid vent.... 1964-1968 or thereabouts. Note: that is my best guess and NOT fact. This is based on examples we have seen of kettles with wood lid handles but still sport squared tabs on Wood Dale stamped lid vents.


Ok, I'll take my nerd glasses off and may the best Grillfella win.  8)



For Gawds sake already --- can we get the Age Guide comments back up and running?   This is golden information worthy of a copy/paste there.
I second that.
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: Duke on February 15, 2014, 01:37:25 PM
It looks like Cookiebags wins! :D
Title: Re: Westerner speculation thread
Post by: ramsfan on February 15, 2014, 02:31:50 PM
I'll guess $2414. Am I close?