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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: BigRix on November 08, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
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I've wanted one of these since I first got married but never could justify spending the money.
I had no problem shelling out the $20 for this one.
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I'm gonna have lots of questions as I clean it up.
Got it from the original owner who is a real Weber guy.
He bought a new one that was bigger but still cooked on this one last week.
Started talking about how long it took to cook anything on his WSM and I immediately told him to give me a call if he wanted to get rid of it.
Still had the owners manual dated 1991.
Gonna dig through the manual now to figure out how the folding side table attaches. I think I'm missing a piece.
Any suggestions for stain color for the wood?
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Great score, especially with side the burner! I'm sure you'll be able to get plenty of answers here....
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Haha rix. Was gonna call tomorrow if it was still there. Did not have a chance to get that far north until Saturday.
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This was the second day for the add and I was surprised it was still available.
About a ten minute drive from my house.
This thing is heavy! Interesting loading it in the back of my expedition.
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Every red Weber is a redhead. That's a nice score!
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Yeah BigRix, they fit fine in the back of my Expedition.
After you pick up a couple more, you'll take everything out of it, take off the lid and find you can lift them right in 8) You're just getting started ;)
Nice!
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Cleaned it up and it's looking great.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/null_zpsf0aa4a9e.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/null_zpsf0aa4a9e.jpg.html)
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This is the side table that was removed when he added the side burner.
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After a few minutes and it was still climbing when I shut it down.
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Cooked some burgers on it last night. Delish.
Also found that the side burner is perfect for starting my chimney full of coal.
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Very nice score!
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BigRix, that's a beaut for sure. Really incredible condition, perfectly preserved.
Can you say more about the folding side table? Is that the one that would fit on the left, and swing up into working position? If so, it seems like you need a different end cap on the front frame tube... might have one I could send you if it's indeed missing.
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The folding side table appeared to be mounted in the right side.
All the hardware except the pivot rod is there, I think.
Looks to me like it would have worked better on the right left side as the outer pivot bracket would have mounted in the rear of the tube instead of the front.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/hy6u2ury.jpg)
Maybe it was assembled wrong?
Edited because it too many beers to cook the pork loin and I don't know right from left
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If that came with the left & right side flip table, but w/out the side burner --- I'd call it a 2200 model. Schematic found here
http://help.weber.com/schematics/browse.aspx?all=1&model=221201
Meaning, you should have a flip table for both sides like this -
(http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/images/models/1000/135387-1.jpg)
Last I checked, Weber still had the table hardware so you might be in luck. If you get the tables they won't be redwood, but rather the gray durawood product. Get the igniter rocker switch while you're at it. (#92510)
I had asked a good while back for a gasser section as I was doing quite a few restores, but alas --- that also was left be the wayside. So, I didn't feel a need to photo/document ant of my restores. But if you have a question on something, I might be able to explain.
Congrats and good luck.
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That bracket looks like some kind of fix to get the shelf on. The end cap is supposed to hold the shelf rod on. Let me know if you need parts, I have them. Also have a ton of original wood slats if you want to replace them.
this is mine with both side tables installed
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300th post!
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+1 for that bracket looking like a homemade item. The factory would have shipped them with the dual-purpose end cap that tattoo has shown. The other end of the rod fits into a hole in the frame.
Here's a closer photo of my side table, extended. Note the end cap. The photo also lets you see what the Durawood (aka, solid PVC) that Bman mentioned looks like. I believe Weber still stocks these parts (mine were rescued from a hardware store that happened to be in Bman's old stomping grounds).
(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r782/MikeStavlund/IMG_0757_zps27cf9c34.jpg) (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/MikeStavlund/media/IMG_0757_zps27cf9c34.jpg.html)
Forgot to give you props for that incredible price, BigRix. $20 is definitely a steal!
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I've got the original manual and it is definitely a 2 LP.
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It shows the bracket that I have but the instructions show it being installed on the left side.
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Here is my side folder, such as it is.
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(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/null_zps537d8ae7.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/null_zps537d8ae7.jpg.html)
I seam to be missing the rod that it pivots on. I plan to make one.
This table seams to be much simpler in construction that the parts diagrams I am finding on line.
The slide bar assembly in particular is not used on this model.
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My apologies, BigRix-- I stand corrected. I had never seen a metal bracket like that.
Since you've got the parts numbers, you are way ahead of the game to call up Weber and get the stuff you're missing. They just might have that stuff in stock.
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Oh yes, I have seen the rod holder. My redhead has it, but for some reason I didn't have the hinge support, instead just the end cap. You can upgrade to a slide shelf or, if you take apart the slide from another piece, you can make it. The holes are in the same place on the frame.
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It would appear that the part I'm missing comes with the table itself and is no longer stocked.
If I can't fab one up, I'm gonna hit up Tattoo for some parts.
The more I learn about this grill the more it looks like a true time capsule.
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I'm currently trying to work out a deal for a red head Genesis 2 with a side burner (which I guess makes it essentially a Genesis 3). Its trashed and needs just about everything replaced, but I really love the look of the older gassers. My buddy, who is a finished carpenter, already wants to replace all of the wooden slats with some crazy rainforest mahogany he has sitting in his shop. He claims it is so dense that it will basically never rot, plus it is a gorgeous color. Not exactly original, but it should turn out really nice and last forever. I'm just hoping I can manage to get the deal worked out.
Thanks for posting up all the pics. They are inspiring
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Here is my attempted repair.
I was missing the rod that the swing out table pivots on.
I had some stainless wire shelves that were in our scrap metal bin at work so I cut myself a section out.
There were smaller size wires attached every few inches so I ground those off except for one.
It can be seen in the top left side of the picture.
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This was to keep the rod from working itself out of the bracket over time.
Here it is installed on the left side as intended.
I left the rod long so I could cut it to length.
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Here the Z rod is in it's holder.
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It then is moved to the hole in the front leg.
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And in it's up position.
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From the pictures in the manual the pivot rod sticks out about 1/2" and is covered with a plastic cap.
My plan is to cut it a bit shorter than that and use a nickel plated push nut, like those used on the wheel axles.
Now to start sanding and staining.
Anyone know the correct color to stain these?
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I remembered that I had this stain left over from the last Stevens shotgun that I fixed up.
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I figured, what the heck I'll give it a shot.
I realize this is a totally half assed fix but I just hit the panels with a pad sander, whipped them off with paper towel, and used another paper towel to slather some stain on.
After one coat this is a bottom panel next to one of the original panels, the one that had been stored inside after he upgraded to the side burner.
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I'll get some more pics up after a few coats dry and I re install them.
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Three coats of stain and although it is a little redder than original I like how it turned out.
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(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/null_zpsaeeeaec1.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/null_zpsaeeeaec1.jpg.html)
And here is my rod end modification.
Push nut.
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I still need to remove the lid handle and glue and stain it.
Hows it looking so far?
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Looks brand new from here. All you guys with your righteous gassers might push me back that direction.
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Looks great. Nice work
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Looks awesome, Rix. Really nice restoration, and that table hardware is better than new. Outstanding work!
That end grain on the table looks pretty thirsty, though. I'd try to seal all of that wood up. My personal preference is for marine spar varnish, but make sure you wait a few days for the stain to get good and dry. I always brush it on, but Bman tells me that you can find rattle cans of it pretty readily. Give it a coat, sand it lightly with 220 to knock down the grain and remove imperfections, coat it again and repeat once or twice.
...or just leave it. It really does look wonderful!
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It's definitely going to get some kind of coating, I just hadn't decided what yet.
I actually considered mineral oil as that seems to be what is used on some wood kitchen utensils.
It worked really well on the knife I made as well so I know it would hold up.
It would just need reapplication frequently I think.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Prybar%20Knife/null-36-3.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Prybar%20Knife/null-36-3.jpg.html)
Time to go wander the woodworking section at Ace I think.
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It's definitely going to get some kind of coating, I just hadn't decided what yet.
I actually considered mineral oil as that seems to be what is used on some wood kitchen utensils.
It worked really well on the knife I made as well so I know it would hold up.
It would just need reapplication frequently I think.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Prybar%20Knife/null-36-3.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Prybar%20Knife/null-36-3.jpg.html)
Time to go wander the woodworking section at Ace I think.
Love that knife, superb workmanship....
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Looking at that knife, I think I'll shut up now. ;-) That is a real work of art, Rix.
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Thanks guys, the knife was a fun project last year.
It started life as a Harbor Freight pry bar and other than the initial cutting, which I did with a angle grinder, it was all done by hand.
Hand files and sand paper.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Prybar%20Knife/null-36.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Prybar%20Knife/null-36.jpg.html)
The handle has taken from a mesquite tree that blew over in my front yard.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Prybar%20Knife/null-39.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Prybar%20Knife/null-39.jpg.html)
I used an old bottle of R12 refrigerant oil for the scales and brazing rod for the pins.
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Prybar%20Knife/null-37-1.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Prybar%20Knife/null-37-1.jpg.html)
I think I had $10 and 15 hours into it.
Now to re rail my thread, I picked up some semi gloss Spar Urethane at Ace today.
I think it will do the trick.
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Nice work!
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I second that!
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Looking at that knife, I think I'll shut up now. ;-) That is a real work of art, Rix.
lol. Nice work, Rix!
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Hey Rix, take some of those Mesquite Blocks and send them to Brian somthat he can make US some mesquite handles. I kept meaning to send him some but don't have any blocks blanked like that.
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everything I have would be too short, I think.
What dimensions would the raw blanks need to be.
I was planning to cut some more up soon any way.
And you guys only thought mesquite was for smoking. :)
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Nice work on that redhead! I have a Silver A (two burner) that has been a great addition to the stable. I used it as a makeshift wind block when I did a turkey on my rotisserie last week. I also use it a lot in the winter when I'm grilling outside. It makes a perfect spot to hold food in a warm environment while I'm cooking the rest of the meal on the grill. It's also great to quickly grill some veggies or a burger or brat when I don't feel like burning charcoal.