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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: MaxBobcat on July 28, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
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Confirmed:
Avocado
18" - The Mediterranean
22" - The Caribbean
Jet Black
18" - The '49er
22" - The Texan
26" - The Fleetwood
Copper Mist aka Brownies
18" - The Brave
22" - The Warrior
26" - The Chief
Note: Copper Mist changed to Chocolate circa 1980
Glen-Blue
22" - The Imperial
White-Gray Fade
22" - The Plainsman
Chestnut-Copperton
22" - The Estate
Key Lime
18" - The Fairway
22" - The Gardner
Red aka Hunters' Pink
18" - The Easterner
22" - The Statesman
26" - The Aristocrat
Yellow
18" - The Yachtsman
22" - The Gourmet
Yellow Ochre
22" - The Ambassador
"The Custom"
22" - Harvest Orange (w/ Animal Cuts of Meat)
Black Kettle with yellow crazed marbling. Circa 1956
Black Kettle with white crazed marbling. Circa 1956
Other Specialty Kettles
The Flamenco - 14.5" Off-set handle Smokey Joe centered in a circular metal table. Circa 1963.
The Penthouse - Sphere-shaped with balcony mount. Circa 1964
The Westerner - 26" Two Tone white-dark orange w/ Steer Head. Circa 1958-late 60's.
The Ranger - Wheel-barrow mounted kettle. Circa 1965.
The Traveler - 18" kettle with removable legs.
The Wishing Well - Kettle mounted in wooden well. Circa 1966.
The Seville - Metal white rolling cart. - Circa 1967.
The Imperial Sequoia - Wooden cart with cabinets. 1968-1979.
The Barrel Bar-B-Q - 22" Grill mounted on barrel w/ semicircle table attached.
The Ranch - Black. 35 3/4" 1953-1978. 37 1/2" through present.
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Hey Max...I've got some old catalogs with names on them. Im hitting the sack now, I'll fill in the blanks tomorrow from whatever everyone else posts for you!
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The brown 22 is The Warrior and the 18 is The Brave
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The Westerner - That one with the nasty longhorn/uterus looking thing on it.
You must be from blOU or aTm. ;D
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The Android - lime green
The eve - redhead
I kid I kid
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Ok, I'm going to edit my first post with the list of new names...
The Westerner - That one with the nasty longhorn/uterus looking thing on it.
You must be from blOU or aTm. ;D
Texas A&M class of 2010! ;D
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Source for Imperial/Estate
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9366/estatew.jpg)
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It would be cool to have specifics on when they used Jumbo Joe vs. Smokey Joe Platinum.
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Max - use the PDF in this link for your
drooling viewing pleasure.
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?37197-1973-Weber-Product-Catalog
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Max - use the PDF in this link for your drooling viewing pleasure.
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?37197-1973-Weber-Product-Catalog
thanks bman...updated with those in that pdf...
anybody got any more?
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That looks like its pretty complete...nice work MaxBobCat
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In the early 80's the Warrior just became Chocolate...:-[
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Speaking of the westerner, Do we know if it was only offered in22?
Also, do you want to add the various models hat were called "custom" to the list?
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In the early 80's the Warrior just became Chocolate...:-[
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Anybody got any catalogs or anything like that from the 80's? We can add time ranges to this list.
Speaking of the westerner, Do we know if it was only offered in22?
Also, do you want to add the various models hat were called "custom" to the list?
Sure...post em, and I can edit the list up @ the top.
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no but here is the parts list
(http://imageshack.us/a/img545/8800/scan0001wn.jpg)
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Weber stopped naming the grills according to some sources by 1980. The 1977-78 catalog that Hogsy posted here last week the kettles have no names but the still did in 1973-74.
BTW Lime was "The Gardner" not sure if that was the name of the 18 or 22 and what the other name for the opposite size lime kettle would have been. Awesome job compiling the color names. Duke, we're getting closer to that "color wheel" we've been talking about.
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Weber stopped naming the grills according to some sources by 1980. The 1977-78 catalog that Hogsy posted here last week the kettles have no names but the still did in 1973-74.
BTW Lime was "The Gardner" not sure if that was the name of the 18 or 22 and what the other name for the opposite size lime kettle would have been. Awesome job compiling the color names. Duke, we're getting closer to that "color wheel" we've been talking about.
Updated. Thanks. I tried googling around for lime+weber+grill+gardener to try to find out the other size name if there was one, but nothing came up. :-\
Added some more kettles under custom...info from: http://weberkettleclub.com/c-history/
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Cool! The C-history is a work in progress I'm working on (need to get my butt in gear) to finish.. for the age page here. I've got a couple updates for it I need to do. One of the updates is dark blue and dark green came out in 1978 not 1979 as previously believed (Dark blue 1978-2013) green still being made. Theres other amendments but this is one is close it just needs some minor tweaks and visuals. I'm told this draft can be found on google because someone else here had found it sometime back.
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Lets add the flamenco under custom
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Maxbo, there were a few kettles named "Custom" apart from the wishing well/seville/ranger etc. that you are listing. I think you may want to give those a different heading title.
Here is one:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img825/4458/customcutkettle.png)
I love that it identifies the grill as Harvest Orange in color.
In addition to this "Cuts of Meat Custom" there were a couple kettles that were "marbled or crazed" that were called "Custom". I will go find pictures of those as well.
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According to Craig, this "Custom" is from 1956:
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9145/8a2f.jpg)
I recall thatthere were basically two of these. One with white lines and the other with yellow. They were both called "The Custom".
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Also, back to the Westerner:
This page is from the 1968 catalog according to Craig. It shows the Westerner offered in 26. Was the westerner only 26 then?
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2337/webercatalog04.jpg)
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Westerner was only available in 26" ;) In fact it should have been Weber's first 26"er in 1958.
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According to Craig, this "Custom" is from 1956:
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9145/8a2f.jpg)
I recall thatthere were basically two of these. One with white lines and the other with yellow. They were both called "The Custom".
Here is a photo of Ed Reilly's Custom Bar-B-Kettle with the yellow lines
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/A_Tame76/CustomBarBKettle_zpsf1f4d5f0.jpg)
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Say, Jeff. Can you ask ed if there is anything stamped on that top vent .....?
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Updated with some of the new stuff.
What is "The Flamenco"? I've never heard of it.
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Say, Jeff. Can you ask ed if there is anything stamped on that top vent .....?
He said his top vent is stamped, "Weber Stephens". That's it.
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This is excellent! It would be cool to add in the date range the names were used, like you have in the last paragrap/section.
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Updated with some of the new stuff.
What is "The Flamenco"? I've never heard of it.
Its a Smokey Joe that is centered in a round metal table. Its fit in the table as a normal kettle like the Seville would fit into its cart. You can see a photo of it in the Weber Timeline PDF
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Updated with the Flamenco, and the three different "The Custom" kettles. Added Hunters' Pink to the Red AKA.
Questions, what size were the yellow and white marbled kettles? Are those both 18's?
I know the majority of the names for the Avocado, Red, Jet Black, etc were around in 1973, but is there any evidence of them being named earlier? And when did they stop. Around '79?
Also, what about the sizes available for: The Penthouse, The Ranger, The Wishing Well, The Seville, and The Imperial Sequoia.
All the Imperials, Rangers and Sevilles were 22s right?
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The marbled or "crazed" kettles were available in 18 and 22. They predate the red kettles I have recently found out.
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There are more names. I took pictures of a catalog Reillyranch had and there are older grills with more names. I know there is a pastel yellow.... there might be a name for the silver 26 that came out in 1962...
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Okay I just looked.... It is described as a yellow ochre color and it's called the ambassador. All the grills are described as 22 3/4 too...
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Okay I just looked.... It is described as a yellow ochre color and it's called the ambassador. All the grills are described as 22 3/4 too...
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Is this the elusive pastel 22.5 (22.75) yellow kettle from the 1962 catalog?
Oh and got photos? :)
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Maxbobcat, not sure if you want to add it but the cuts of meat custom was circa 1968, FWIW.
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Max - use the PDF in this link for your drooling viewing pleasure.
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?37197-1973-Weber-Product-Catalog
Here's the '67 PDF
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?36516-1967-Weber-Product-Catalog
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updated list with the plainsman
source for plainsman:
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/plainsman2_zps5afacd57.png)
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Good eye! I don't think the years are correct, though unless they switched the vent position in '63.
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updated with the ambassador...it's yellow ochre
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Yellow Ochre...what an interesting name. Had to look it up.
Ochre (/ˈoʊkər/ OH-kər; from Greek: ὠχρός, ōkhrós, (pale yellow, pale), also spelled ocher) is a natural earth pigment containing hydrated iron oxide, which ranges in color from yellow to deep orange or brown. It is also the name of the colors produced by this pigment, especially a light brownish-yellow.[1][2] A variant of ochre containing a large amount of hematite, or dehydrated iron oxide, has a reddish tint known as "red ochre".
Ochre and the earth pigments
Ochre is a family of earth pigments, which includes yellow ochre, red ochre, purple ochre, sienna, and umber. The major ingredient of all the ochres is iron (III) oxide, known as limonite, which gives them a yellow color.
Yellow ochre, Fe2O3 • H2O, is a hydrated iron oxide (limonite) also called Gold ochre
Red ochre, Fe2O3, takes its reddish color from the mineral hematite, which is an anhydrous iron oxide.
Purple ochre, is identical to red ochre chemically but of a different hue caused by different light diffraction properties associated with a greater average particle size.
Brown ochre (goethite), is a partly hydrated iron oxide.
Sienna contains both limonite and a small amount of manganese oxide (less than five percent), which mades it darker than ochre.
Umber pigments contain a larger proportion of manganese (five to twenty percent) which make them a dark brown.[3]
When natural sienna and umber pigments are heated, they are dehydrated and some of the limonite is transformed into haematite, giving them more reddish colors, called burnt sienna and burnt umber.
Ochres are non-toxic, and can be used to make an oil paint that dries quickly and covers surfaces thoroughly.
Modern ochre pigments often are made using synthetic iron oxide. Pigments which use natural ochre pigments indicate it with the name PY-43 (Pigment yellow 43) on the label, following the Color Index International system.
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Nice pictures! First time I've seen the Ambassador close up! What color is that 'Plainsman'? Is it the two tone grey? Plus notice the Plainsman's vent/handle position is in the "current" configuration and its the only one of the three that has the regular twist style ash catcher.....no clips like on the Ambassador yellow and the Imperial blue
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updated with barrel bar-b-q
(http://filecache.drivetheweb.com/mr4enh_weber2/843/HIS36x_cmyk_med.jpg)
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bump...
Anybody found anything to add to the list?
Anybody ever seen a list of nicknames for the blue kettles in any of the catalogs? Seems the bluies just came too late to ever get a nickname.
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Has anybody found any old catalogs with the the Lime name "The Gardener" in them? For 18 or 22, or both?
Thanks
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Updated original post with The Gardner and The Fairway.
Source:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x164/gregs1020/ScreenShot2014-09-27at84329PM_zps006bee75.png)