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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: BBQ Breath on July 24, 2013, 02:59:58 PM
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I do lots of RV camping and have a Weber baby Q 100 for burgers and stuff. I am thinking of getting a Jumbo Joe but have seen negative comments on WKC. Has anyone cooked on one? I love my 22.5 OTG but it gets old toting it around. thanks.
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I have not used one but I am interested in what those who have say. I am considering a JJ or an 18.5 to compliment my 22.5 OTG.
Test...Test... Is this thing on???
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I have not cooked on a new JJ.
If I found one, I might smash it.
If I wanted a portable 18, i would get an old JJ or do the stubby 18 mod. In fact, that is what I did: i have an 18 OTG with a spare set of short legs for portablizing.
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I have not cooked on a new JJ.
If I found one, I might smash it.
If I wanted a portable 18, i would get an old JJ or do the stubby 18 mod. In fact, that is what I did: i have an 18 OTG with a spare set of short legs for portablizing.
Here Here! :D
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I like my Smokey Joe Platinum. I'm not a fan of the new JJ. I would find a SJP. They come across CL often.
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I don't get it. What's wrong with the new JJ?
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If I found one, I might smash it.
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I am not sure about the new ones, but I do have the old style JJ. I have used it only once, was not that satisfied with a cover on cook. I don't think there is enough air, with the side vent above the coals. The new style actually might be more efficient with the air flow from the bottom.
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I've found the old ones great for roasting
I bet the new one is great for grilling and roasting
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I don't get it. What's wrong with the new JJ?
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I've never cooked on one, so I can't say how it cooks. It is lighter than the old one, and apparently was caught in a "HULK SMASH" moment:
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??? ::) :-X :'(
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Here are some reasons I dislike the new JJ. I believe these gripes at shared by others.
- The top & bottom vents are loosely attached with bolts, not riveted. They have a lot of play and feel cheap. They are also likely to require occasional maintenance to keep the screws tight enough.
- Handle is not welded to the lid. It is either riveted or bolted, and doesn't look as nice.
- The bowl contour is shared (I believe) with the euro compact kettle. The shape isn't as elegant, but it does move the food and charcoal grates closer together. This can be a good thing if you're cooking directly.
Regarding the side vents on the current sjg & the former sjp, they do take a bit of time getting used to, but once you figure out how it works very satisfactory results can be achieved.
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If I found one, I might smash it.
Oh My.......oh my........ :o
I've never cooked on one, so I can't say how it cooks. It is lighter than the old one, and apparently was caught in a "HiULK SMASH" moment:
??? ::) :-X :'(
Even though a lowly critter, it's still a Weber product.....where's the love, man?
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If I found one, I might smash it.
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Even though a lowly critter, it's still a Weber product.....where's the love, man?
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Along with the above comments. The assembly of the lid holder chips the porcelain and doesn't work smoothly to lock the lid. Over time all you do is destroy the finish. As for "Love", as much as we love Weber grills we also have the right to tell them when they made Junk. This goes for the Junko Joe
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da Bluesman gets it!
and further on the "IMO" spectrum, the big W has made some items of questionable utility, such as the candle lanterns, that are still very endearing. They are neat, quaint, fun, desirable.
This thing is an abomination..... (just like the "new" full surface plastic wheels). (IMO, YMMV,JMHO etc etc!)
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Don't get me completely wrong.....I think I likened it to a "TOAD" when we were 1st talking about it aways back........ :o
the older rollers on the MasterTouch kinda do that same damage......not as bad, but possible......
i wonder if we have enough pull around here to say, send in a petition & get them to, then, see the error of their ways....?
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Well, I guess I will go against the grain here - I bought a JJ for my R.V. as well. It fits perfectly in my "cooking compartment". I bought it for the size - I really wanted an 18" grill that I could use on my dutch oven table. The JJ fits the bill perfectly. I have used it a dozen times now, and have not had any issues with it. Below is a Paella that I recently cooked using my JJ.
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I like the old JJ/SJP. Especially when they have One Touch sweepers... ;)
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Thanks for the opinions!
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I will also say, I have the new one and the size is great. Of all the detractors, the only one I also dislike is the top damper being a screw on. It works fine and there is no problem adjusting the screw to get the feel you like. I just think the top rivet works a little nicer. As far as the lid being squashed, it seems almost identical to the current 18's. I also like the fact that the parts are interchangeable with the 18's.
I think it works well overall.
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I can overlook the design flaws because It meets what I want to use it for. I am more interested in folks experience cooking on them. The common thought is that the coals will be too close to the cooking grate? has this been the case?
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Well, I don't know what the actual measurement is for distance but I can tell you from cooking on it, the distance is far enough to get banked coals in order to provide for different levels of heat across the cooking serface. I can say I have been able to successfully cook on it but at the same time I have not tryed to do anything to fancy with it. I don't know if that helps you much but I have no problem cooking with it for the basic cooking I use it for. Anything more demanding, I break out the 22.5!
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I've had a jumbo joe (old model) for over ten years and it is awesome to take tailgating and camping. Cooks great. With the 4 kids out of the house, I use it all the time for me and the wife. Direct cooking or indirect cooking. Fun! BTW: I have 22.5", Smokey Joe(s), and the Weber Ranch Kettle.
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I bought my '98 JJ because it came to me in a grocery store parking lot, and I heard all of the conventional wisdom about the side-vents making them poor cookers so my expectations were low. But I gotta say that I have used it almost exclusively for roasting via indirect heat, and it's worked really, really well.
I've looked at the newer JJs (because I'm looking for a portable charcoal grill for an RVing friend), and the thing seems entirely too short. But I could be entirely wrong about that, too.
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i'm tempted to pick one up. I agree the quality isn't the same (handle, vents) - but I think I can get over the 'squish' factor.
It'll be different than what I'm used to, but I think I can manage. Heck, even cooking on a 22 vs 18 is quite different already...
I'd rather hold out for an old, colored jumbo joe, or heck, even a colored 18 that i can convert to a mini or a jj...
But if summer comes and I don't have anything, i'll pick up a new jumbo.
I have a charcoal go-anywhere - but i'm not a fan. Too small for my cooks.
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Ever see that scene in Pee Wee's Big Adventure when he has to save all the pets in the burning pet shop and each time he runs past the snakes he makes a "gagging" sound? Eventually he has to grab the snakes. The new JJ makes me think of the snakes in the pet shop when I see them in an Ace. So who knows, maybe someday I'll finally have to grab one. Much later! ;D I really don't mean to offend anyone that has the newer JJ's. They're just not my cup of tea. On the other hand, the SJP's could use a rework by adding daisy wheels to the bottom. I'm going to mod my black one this spring.
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If you don't "NEED" one right now, then put off picking one up until next fall. I bought my JJ at Target this past year when they started blowing out all of their grilling stock at the end of the season. I think I paid around $18-19 for it. At that price, its worth the gamble to see if it works for you.
So far, all I have really used mine for is searing and appetizers a few times. We also used it for tailgating once where I cooked a handful of burgers and some sausage. For those applications, it has worked awesome. It would be a great tailgater/travel grill though. The Weber mini chimney fits inside perfectly. When tailgating.......I tossed some newspaper in the bottom of the grill, then the charcoal grate. Then filled the charcoal grate with Kingsford blue, tossed in the cooking grate (a new hinged grate I also picked up from Target for next to nothing), followed by the mini chimney and a pack of matches. Close the lid, lock the bail, and presto.......a perfect self contained travel grill. I don't use it much, but I'm glad I bought it.
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Mine is still sitting in the box, never used. I picked it up for ~$25 so I figured why not grab it.
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I've used it once. It do like the size compared to the SJ. The one benefit is that you can get a hinged grate which the smokey joe doesn't offer. When I added coals to the smokey joe, I had to lift the whole grate and a couple times food had fallen off when adding more coals.
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I've had the new jj since they first were introduced. It's my go to grill when it's just the wife and I. I put a lid thermometer on it and am able to cook at below 300 temps for several hours when The bottom vent is partially closed. I am very pleased with the jj. I plan on getting a second one for the camper.