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Cooking & Food Talk => Charcoal Grilling & BBQ => Topic started by: shayneh2006 on July 10, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
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My mates downunder have recommended a visit to this site, telling me its a great place to be if your are into kettles, which I am, sooooo, my introduction will be a rather long one, showing how I converted Hogsy's Jumboe Joe into a cold smoker.
Mods, if this is too long or is in the wrong section, moving it is no problems ;D
How it started,,,
I have just started getting serious about making Bacon with Nitrites, so I felt it time to venture into Cold Smoking.
Sooooo, time to build a Cold Smoker out of bits and pieces I had laying around and test run it today smoking two pieces or home cured belly Bacon.
Materials I used-
2x Large Cardboard Boxes (I used two Hot Rocks Cartons)
1x Shoe Box
Masking Tape
PVA Glue
1x clagged out computer
2 meters 75mm x 25mm timber
A few meters of 10mm Booker Rod
2 core wire
3 meters of 200mm Air con ducting.
1x 200mm dia piece of metal ducting
Silver tinned Sarking Tape
Butchers Hooks
And of course, a smoke generator. I used my newly acquired Jumbo Joe (thanks Hogsy!!) and it did the job just great.
I have decided that its position in my arsenal of bbqs is “The Smoke Generator”
My first step was to trial components before building the final setup. Originally, I was going to use a Performer as my Generator. I tried connecting the ducting to the lid over the Lid Damper which failed because, as soon as built a fire in the kettle, the lid would heat up then melt the sticky backing off the tape. It just wouldn’t hold.
Then I came up with the idea of the 200mm dia piece of metal ducting as a downward weight but because the Performers lid is very domed shape, I couldn’t hold it there however, the Jumbo Joe has a flat lid on top so the ducting easily sat there all by itself.
So, firstly , I started a small fire in the JJ with some Blackbutt on top, got it smoking nicely and fitted the ducting.
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And, I was happy to see this.
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However, I knew that I was going to need something mechanical to help assist the flow of smoke so, I destroyed an old Computer to get to the fans within.
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And just to confirm that all was good, I did a dummy fit up with the fan (which worked out to be 12volt and how goods that!!! :wink: ) fitted to a shoe box, fitted to the ducting. It was perfect!!!!
And actually assisted the JJ in keeping maintain a healthy burning snake.
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Heres the two cartons I used, that were glued and tapped together, meaning I had a partitioned two zone setup. If zone one gets a bit hot, move the meat to zone two. You could even smoke two different types of meat in their own areas.
Oh, talking about heat control, having the long 3 meter flex/duct is great as well. You can move the smoking Chamber towards/away from the heat whatever happens on the day.
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Right, I had a plan to run with.
Getting the fan in order.
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And then attaching it to the shoe box
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The shoe box was then glued on to the lower side of the smoking chamber
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Right, I needed something made up for hanging the meat. So here’s my 75 x 25 ready to be notched out for the support bars. Notice the hole underneath the timber on the centre partition, to allow the smoke to move.
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This is the main intake. On the other side of that vent is the shoe box mounted fan.
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And here’s looking through the hole in the centre partition. Note the intake is at the bottom of the smoker. When the smoke enters, it will travel upwards past the meat, through the hole that’s high in the centre partition,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and then the smoke will travel down, past the meat in chamber two, and out of the exit hole that’s cut low. Notice the flap/damper I left to hold back the smoke if needed.
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The hanging rails and hooks ready to go.
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Then it was time to fix on the ductwork
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Now for the maiden run, to see if its all working good before I throw in a few slabs of Cured Maple Bacon
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And here is some Maple belly that I have had on the dry cure for 8 days
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After 36 hrs forming its pellicle in the fridge.
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And boy, am I excited as I am ready to have a crack at cold smoking Bacon.
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I used a two row Snake for this. I also palced a continuos row of Apple wood (thanks again Hogsy) on top. I later added a bit of Blackbutt as well as some hickory shavings as the Apple wasn’t giving off the amount of smoke I needed.
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The milk crates are there to hold the boxes close.
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And success. A steady flow of smoke passing through both Chambers and out the back door.
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For the entire time (which lasted for 8 hours) my temps stayed were I wanted them to. 75F was the lowest I saw, spiking to high 80,s at times. Oh, the smoker probe was wedged in the hole in the partition.
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At times, to keep the temps in the range, I had to prop up the duct off the kettle lid and allow the fan to bypass some of the heat, sucking in cool air. I am coming up on 8 hrs here and notice how I have got the Performer set up with a small Snake ready for my hot smoking
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A shot of the Snake which did not give me any trouble
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My Bacon is starting to get a nice colour
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And right before being put into a 200F kettle to finish being smoked with Blackbutt until an internal temp of 135F.
Cold Smoked Bacon. Bloody fantastic. Fantastic colour and smell too :)
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After 2.5hrs of hot smoking, its finished.
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And I tried a little bit cut off fresh. Boy o boy is it good. You can really taste the Maple in it ;D
Done. A long process but rewarding at the same time. Done like this, the rind stays soft and rubbery so I dare say its going to be a pleasure to slice. Hot smoking has always seen the Pork skin pull back, shrink and harden.
I sliced up the Bacon this afternoon and am very happy with the results
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I really like the idea of the long cold smoke followed by a short hot smoke. I reckon you get better smoke penetration into the meat.
I fried a bit up and the flavor was fantastic, with a nice sweet hint of Maple to finish.
Just goes to show you that you don't have to go out and spend thousands to get results ;).
In the coming weeks, I will get a chance to try her again when I get stuck into these suckers.
Loin, using the Maple recipe, combination Cure.
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Pork neck (Boston Butt) , combination Cure.
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Not bad for a few hours work and at Nil cost. 10/10 and should last me a while if kept out of the weather
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Shayne
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Hmmm.....I've seen this somewhere before. ;) Looks like it is working a treat.
Very inventive Shayne, way more patience than me though. :)
I like the blue performer too!
Ken
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Awesome post, welcome to the club!
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Wow! :o
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Wow! Outstanding! Welcome, from the GWN! :D
Also, I was wondering if you could add more pics ....... just kidding. ::) ::) Everything looks great! :D 8)
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I have not words but awesome. Very crafty.
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Thank you Shayne for takiing the time to post . Welcome.
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Welcome Shayne
This is so freaking awesome!!!
Buckie is gonna flip when he sees this 8)
I had a dream that you had 5 or 10 boxes setup around your deck with the duct weaving around all the boxes with different types of meat smoking away
Ive been chatting with shayne for a couple of years now on the Aussie forum and met him for the first time last week when we did a trade at JoCool's house
He is a great guy and really knows how to play with his food and wrangle a kettle
Great to see you here and thanks for posting this ingenuis setup
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Best way to recycle a HotRox box! :)
Joel, you watching the Ashes?
Ken
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Welcome and great setup!! Looks awesome!
"my kettle is more powerful it will do almost anything."
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Nice work! I had never thought of making bacon. But now....
Sent from another planet using Mental Telepathy.
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Wow, a lot of time and energy into that smoke. Spectacular!
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Mmmm, bacon.
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Nice engineering there Shayne! Have you tried a smaller fire? Seems like you would be able decrease the size of your setup while still staying low heat.
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Wow! Quite a setup. Rube Goldberg would be proud! ;D
I'm not sure whether this thread should go into introductions of food pr0n, but welcome to the WKC. We look forward to seeing more about how you use your Webers.
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Firstly
Big welcome Shayne
And secondly
Holy fuck that's a grate first post
Awsum work on the bacon
Hope to see more of your foo p0rn posted here
Great prototype cold smoker
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So Shayne is this just the start of things to come ?
Now that it was successful are you planning a more permanent setup?
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"POSSIBLE TAGLINE ALERT!!!"
"A shot of the Snake which did not give me any trouble"
Yeah, Hogsy's right.....I'm flippin' out over here !!!
Most ingenious cooker setup I've seen lately......the "out of the top vent, capped off for use" thing is something I've had figured out for a long time, but never actually used.....GOOD SHOW !!!
And....WELCOME !!!!
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Cheers guys and thankyou for the welcome wishes.
So Shayne is this just the start of things to come ?
Now that it was successful are you planning a more permanent setup?
No Hogsy. Don't fix what aint broke. That wild cold smoker will continue to be used ;) :D.
I am looking forward to submitting further wild ideas on how to use a kette,,,,, remember,,,,O'l silver has one in the Oven..... as I think the guys here would be interested in that wild engineering feet 8).
Looking forward to contributing to this here :)
Shayne.
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remember,,,,O'l silver has one in the Oven..... as I think the guys here would be interested in that wild engineering feet 8).
Shayne.
That might just be more than they can handle. ;D
Ken
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I am looking forward to submitting further wild ideas on how to use a kette,,,,, remember,,,,O'l silver has one in the Oven..... as I think the guys here would be interested in that wild engineering feet 8).
I gotta say you've lost me on this one
But I'm sitting on the edge of my seat in anticipation
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Joel, check the Aussie BBQ site. It's like a weber version of the matryoshka doll. :)
Ken
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bumping this awesome thread because I feel like it. 8)
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Just saw this. Wow that is a wicked setup. Bet that bacon tasted great. Welcome to WKC.