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Title: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 04, 2018, 01:04:34 PM
When I got my Summit Charcoal Grilling Station, I read about a mod on the TVWBB to prevent the charcoal bin from scratching the bottom tray. So, I added a piece of scratch resistant ABS plastic and drilled the corners with a hole saw to fit. Also added some felt to each corner of the charcoal bin:
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The bowl I receive was defective. Had silicon hanging out in a few spots where they sealed the two pieces of the bowl for the double wall. Weber sent me out a new one and it was dented. So, I got some aluminum pole from Home Depot and



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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 04, 2018, 01:12:19 PM


Sorry, my 3 year old hit the post button.

I used the bowl to make a charcoal starter station. Try to find a cover for it:
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Tapped the galvanized pipe and stainless screws.
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Added another tool holder and handle light:
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Added a SNS for reverses searing, and a drip and griddle pan to keep it clean;
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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Big Dawg on January 04, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
Are the SnS and DnG for the Kettle?





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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 04, 2018, 02:59:44 PM
Are the SnS and DnG for the Kettle?





BD
Yes, they are specific to the Summit Charcoal.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Big Dawg on January 04, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Are the SnS and DnG for the Kettle?





BD
Yes, they are specific to the Summit Charcoal.

Well, if they made one (DnG) specific for the WSC, there may be hope of us 26er owners after all.





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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 04, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
Are the SnS and DnG for the Kettle?





BD
Big Dawg I misspoke, the DNG is not specific to the Summit Charcoal, but the SNS I bought is specific.
Yes, they are specific to the Summit Charcoal.

Well, if they made one (DnG) specific for the WSC, there may be hope of us 26er owners after all.





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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: HoosierKettle on January 04, 2018, 03:52:36 PM
Are the SnS and DnG for the Kettle?





BD
Yes, they are specific to the Summit Charcoal.

Well, if they made one (DnG) specific for the WSC, there may be hope of us 26er owners after all.





BD

I hadn't thought about that but a dng for a 26 would be awesome.  I would use it primarily as a griddle.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 04, 2018, 03:57:05 PM
With the Summit, you don't need a Slow N Seer or a Vortex. I might even go off of ATC and ditch the CyberQ Cloud.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 04, 2018, 05:14:26 PM
With the Summit, you don't need a Slow N Seer or a Vortex. I might even go off of ATC and ditch the CyberQ Cloud.
Although you are correct, you don’t need it, I sure thank it makes a much more versatile rig. For example, reverse searing steaks. With the SNS, you can have the charcoal grate in the upper position while your are gradually bringing the steaks to temp. Then, open the top vent to spike the temperature of the kettle and sear on the coal side. The added benefit is you get a much better sear with the coals on the upper level.

I also have an extra charcoal grate in case I want to smoke something on the Summit, and then cook a different dish on it immediately after. I remove the diffuser, add the center charcoal ring and add more charcoal. The charcoal on the upper rack ignites quick from the charcoal below. Then your ready to sear or cook whatever you want with higher heat.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: JordanW on January 05, 2018, 09:33:30 AM
@GoAnywhereJeep  Is this our new home? LOL
 
Hopefully this thread stays on topic.

@Kettle Karl  You could totally add a Summit or Performer igniter tube to that charcoal station... Hose clamp or fab up some kind of bracket to strap a skinny propane tank w/ valve and BOOM!

Great looking mods too!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 05, 2018, 11:30:10 AM
@GoAnywhereJeep  Is this our new home? LOL
 
Hopefully this thread stays on topic.

@Kettle Karl  You could totally add a Summit or Performer igniter tube to that charcoal station... Hose clamp or fab up some kind of bracket to strap a skinny propane tank w/ valve and BOOM!

Great looking mods too!
@JordanW - I already have another ash catcher assembly that Weber sent with one of the replacement bowls so that will be added for safety/cleanliness. You and I think alike, I already have a perforner burner tube, but I’m going to try to get the Summit one since I won’t have to mod anything. The Summit burner tube is different from the Performer.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 06, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
I really do like the skid plate you came up with. My lower shelf is all scuffed up now and I was thinking to do something similar.

One thing that i was also thinking to do is to glue a couple of strong magnets inside the bottom of the charcoal bucket so that it stays put on the cart when you move the cart around.

On mine, I have two of the lights like you have. I like that they both come in at different angles when open. Lights things up nicely.

I have a BBQ Guru CyberQ Cloud and that integrates very nicely but i am curious to try a SMOBOT when they finally come up with a lid for the Summit. The idea of a servo controlled lid versus a blower motor sounds intriguing to me.

The Summit has been so stable in terms of temps anyway that I don't find myself using auto temp control as often as I did when i had the WSM. The temp reading on the build in gauge stay a lot closer to the measured grate temps on both my iGrill2 and my CyberQ. I could even see skipping the ATC on a summit in favor of just using something like the ThermoWorks Smoke.

Another modification I added was that I picked up a GasOne 3900P dual fuel single burner stove for making sauces and such. It will run on the 1 lb propane cylinders or the butane cans. Comes with an adapter hose and a case. I keep it next to the charcoal bucket in its case and plan to glue some magnets to the inside of that case as well to keep it put on the shelf.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: CharliefromLI on January 06, 2018, 11:17:37 AM

With the Summit, you don't need a Slow N Seer or a Vortex. I might even go off of ATC and ditch the CyberQ Cloud.

Same here.

My goal was to “learn” the summit before i started using my pitmasterIQ again but it truly doesn’t need it. I was able to maintain temps in 16 degrees last weekend. The key, IMO is to start your fire small and let the insulation do its job. The rapid fire damper can raise temps like no kettle or WSM can, and the gasket will allow you drop temps down as needed.



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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: CharliefromLI on January 06, 2018, 11:25:05 AM

@GoAnywhereJeep  Is this our new home? LOL
 
Hopefully this thread stays on topic.

Great looking mods too!

I had a smiliar thought, abandon the last thread and start anew. Thankfully, you guys are a bit more proactive then i was.

I’ve never In my four years on here seen a thread get hijacked liked that, and never seen a member go so negative.  I think the summit is a bit polarizing for many folks based on its price.

Nice mods!






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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Kettle Karl on January 07, 2018, 06:54:01 AM
I really do like the skid plate you came up with. My lower shelf is all scuffed up now and I was thinking to do something similar.

One thing that i was also thinking to do is to glue a couple of strong magnets inside the bottom of the charcoal bucket so that it stays put on the cart when you move the cart around.

On mine, I have two of the lights like you have. I like that they both come in at different angles when open. Lights things up nicely.

I have a BBQ Guru CyberQ Cloud and that integrates very nicely but i am curious to try a SMOBOT when they finally come up with a lid for the Summit. The idea of a servo controlled lid versus a blower motor sounds intriguing to me.

The Summit has been so stable in terms of temps anyway that I don't find myself using auto temp control as often as I did when i had the WSM. The temp reading on the build in gauge stay a lot closer to the measured grate temps on both my iGrill2 and my CyberQ. I could even see skipping the ATC on a summit in favor of just using something like the ThermoWorks Smoke.

Another modification I added was that I picked up a GasOne 3900P dual fuel single burner stove for making sauces and such. It will run on the 1 lb propane cylinders or the butane cans. Comes with an adapter hose and a case. I keep it next to the charcoal bucket in its case and plan to glue some magnets to the inside of that case as well to keep it put on the shelf.

I like your idea about adding magnets to the charcoal bin, I think I will do the same thing.

You have also inspired me to add another light! Never thought about this, but it’s a great idea.

As far as temp control, I just can’t believe how stable these things are. Smoking big hunks of meat on my WSM takes much more attention, and much more charcoal. Not sure if I’ll add any auto temp control to mine.

That’s also s great idea to have a single burner stove. I’m restoring a Genesis 3000 right now, and will have it parked next to my kettles so I plan on using the side burner from the gasser when I need to. Your option may be easier though since I would have to uncover the Genesis to use it.

I found that the cover that comes with these grills doesn’t protect the bottom of the frame very well on the side with the kettle. Unlike Performers that have two legs that extend down to the axles/wheels, the Summit Charcoal Grilling Center has one post. This leaves quite a bit of the lower frame exposed to the elements. For now, I have cut two small pieces of round UV resistant foam that I jam between the wheels and frame to “trap” the cover on both sides. Works well, but probably won’t stay there in strong winds. I’ll come up with a permanent solution.

Thanks for sharing your mods!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 07, 2018, 11:12:19 AM
@JordanW
Yeah, I'm not sure what is up with the resentment/sour grapes that comes along with SC ownership. It is apparent on other forums too. That guy actually posed an interesting question - just in the wrong thread. And by claiming that the SC is nothing special and how he'd be owning one for $50 did not earn him any friends. At first i was thinking about how easy it would be remove the bowl with a SC and measure it to provide some basic info. But then i thought - dang...  why would want to help this guy?

@Kettle Karl
I have an older twin burner Coleman propane kicking around the back yard that i sometimes use with the charcoal chimney. It's okay for sauces and stuff but i wanted something smaller and cleaner and that i can use indoors as well. Yo can get cheaper versions of this stove and I think that Coleman does or did re-brand a version of the GasOne stove.

Another idea that i am mulling over is to use one of those "bottle top" single burner stoves like the Coleman or the Stansport and then cut holes into the work surface so that the knob can be poked out the front side and the burner could be on top side.

I think you would have to have some pretty strong magnets. I have a couple of old magnets out of an old hard drive. They are pretty large magnets as the hard drive was a full sized 5.25" out of an Octel voice mail system.

Looking at your pics, I see that you have dual hangers. I keep my single hanger positioned in between the two lights.

Tool wise, i have a set of three that i like. The Weber Tongs and charcoal rake are excellent. Not fond of the other Weber tools (not the current models) because they bend easily. I have the grate brush and it doesn't spin inside the handle like other brands do. But i want to get away from using brushes for safety reasons. Don't want to know of anyone ingesting a piece of brush.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: Jon on January 12, 2018, 11:14:39 PM
This is a really weird thread.

Magnets. Ok.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: CharliefromLI on January 13, 2018, 03:37:11 AM

This is a really weird thread.

Magnets. Ok.

What’s weird about it?



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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 14, 2018, 09:20:10 AM
This is a really weird thread.

Magnets. Ok.

Hey man..  Do you have a Summit? If so, you can just skip the magnets and the comment altogether, no problem.

What modifications have you done to your Summit? If you are still just planning to get one, what mods would you do?

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: jacobp on January 31, 2018, 08:22:54 AM
Had my summit for a few months now and absolutely love it. My local ACE Hardware was clearing out the Grilling Center (they're only going to carry the basic model going forward) so scored the WSCGC for the price of the base model.

really the only complaint I still have are the cheap looking wheels. Don't get me wrong, they work just fine; its just the principle of spring 1500 for a grill and them cheaping out on the wheels. Will be looking here and other places for ideas on how to replace them.

Only other things I've added to the grill are two lights on the handle and an additional tool holder, as a couple other posters here mentioned. Still have my eyes open for a compatible roti as well.
Title: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: JordanW on February 01, 2018, 04:59:01 PM
Added the fittings for my Flame Boss. Had to drill out factory hole a touch to get it the way I wanted. Fits perfect. Looks clean and seals up tight when not in use. First picture, the ash sweep hits the lock nut, but after rotating the nut it allowed the full sweep.

The only thing I’m not happy with is the fact that my uni bit drill bit caught the inner bowl. I had to drill from bottom and I didn’t notice it happening. I’ll touch up with high temp paint when I do my first big cleaning.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Grill Mods and Additions
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on February 01, 2018, 07:35:52 PM
Very cool. In PitMasterX's video on the Summit, he just poked the fan in and did not bother to put the collar on.